2) 10's or 1) 12

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Getting ready to start a small audio build. Have never done an audio build in a pick up, so that's why I'm asking. Going to go with a Fox Box.
Can't decide if I should go with 1) 12" sub or 2) 10" subs?
Amp for sub will be between 500-750 Rms.
Either going with a JL 750/1 or Apline 5 channel which will be 500 RMS to the sub channel.
Listen to all types of music, mostly rap but will jam to some hard rock as well.
 

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2 10 would be much better than a 12". The 10s will move more air.
 

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For me I'd go 2 10's they got every beat not every 2nd like a 12 does and you can get some amazing sound out of them so they are a better daily used sub than a 12

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Not sure what the second beat talk is as that just isn't accurate but what is true in the realm of subs and low power is cone area will be king. So you have a couple of choices. 2 10s will sound great depending on the subs but take up more room. One 12 can sound equally good again depending on the sub. Sticking with a foxbox I think you would be happier with 10s with low power and added cone area.
 

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Went with 2 12's in mine. Love it!!
 

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hes saying the smaller 10s need less displacement therefore cycle faster which essentially produces more tones than a single 12. two 10s will always be cleaner, punchier, and still produce plenty of down low. id always go two 10s over a 12
 
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Now that makes sense.
Did a lot of research yesterday and today and 99% sure I'm going with 2) 10's
Leaning towards the Sundown Audio SD3's
 

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Negative, it all depends on sub woofer and enclosure. I have an 18 that will play cleaner and lower than most 10s in its price point.
 

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hes saying the smaller 10s need less displacement therefore cycle faster which essentially produces more tones than a single 12. two 10s will always be cleaner, punchier, and still produce plenty of down low. id always go two 10s over a 12

Isn't that what I just said. Lol. It's all about how much air you can move.
 

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Where are u getting your fox box at? I've been tryna get a box from foxacoustic.com for the past three weeks dunno what's going on over there guess they gone for the holidays, is there other places to get one at?
 

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hes saying the smaller 10s need less displacement therefore cycle faster which essentially produces more tones than a single 12. two 10s will always be cleaner, punchier, and still produce plenty of down low. id always go two 10s over a 12

This is 100% wrong. It is completely dependent of the subwoofer and the enclosure.

Either way I still would say 2 10s based on displacement.
 

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You find me a 12 that will cycle faster than a 10 and I'll believe you. It's a bigger coil. Bigger magnet and bigger surface area. There is no way you will ever make a 12 cycle as fast or as crisp as a 10
 

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You find me a 12 that will cycle faster than a 10 and I'll believe you. It's a bigger coil. Bigger magnet and bigger surface area. There is no way you will ever make a 12 cycle as fast or as crisp as a 10

I can easily find you 12" woofers with smaller coils and motors than 10s. Other things to take into consideration are also the strength of the spider, cone material (lighter cones vs heavier cones), as well as T/S parameters. This isn't even an argument, it is speaker basics 101. This argument is something I would hear from the 16 year old whose system hits 212dBs.

Extreme example:

Your 10" SPL sub:

NSV3 SERIES

Your 12" entry sub (smaller coil and motor):

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_98697_JBL-S2-1224-Toggle-between-2-Ohm-4-Ohm-Impedance.html

Just for ***** and giggles here is a 18" speaker that can play higher than most subwoofers. Playing higher means it can "cycle faster" because of the higher frequencies. (1200hz is 1200 times a second, 40 hz is 40 times a second).

http://www.parts-express.com/eminence-sigma-pro-18a-2-18-cast-frame-driver--290-427
 
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eh just hook up an old ghetto blaster circa 1980's and bam you are done. Rock on!
 

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the JL Audio 13" shallow mount will blow 2 10's away. Seriously and it only requires one cubit foot of space. This is what Im putting in my truck after hearing it in a couple other trucks with 500w on it. It comes in 2 ohm or 4 ohm I think depending on your wiring configuration

13TW5-3 - Car Audio - Subwoofer Drivers - TW5 - JL Audio

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