1500's are really this useless? - Hit the CAT scale today - Disgusted

GsRAM · Oct 31, 2017

Riccochet said:
I just realized. When 4 of us went to ride with our downhill mountain bikes I was over capacity in the truck. Yeah, 4 people and 4 mountain bikes. Just the 4 people alone I was over capacity, according to the sticker.

lol. yeah, maybe the sticker printer had a glitch that day or something. there's just no way that can be accurate.

I believe ram has a website where you can enter your vin and it will give you your tow rating and payload capacity. id try that and see what it says

Riccochet · Oct 31, 2017

GsRAM said:
lol. yeah, maybe the sticker printer had a glitch that day or something. there's just no way that can be accurate.

I believe ram has a website where you can enter your vin and it will give you your tow rating and payload capacity. id try that and see what it says

This is the site. Have to click "LOOK UP MY VEHICLE" to the right.

https://www.ramtrucks.com/en/towing_guide/

Here are the results for my VIN. 1,570 LBS cargo capacity. So, yeah, the sticker on my truck is WAY the f*** off. hahaha

mohemipar · Oct 31, 2017

Number one reason I went up to 2500 was the payload. All of the other business-like functionality things are just great bonuses. But yeah, the payload on the 1500s is just too low. The trucks have plenty of power and a great trans to tow pretty heavy stuff, but the numbers are just ********. I guess you are supposed to buy a Tradesman to maybe safely tow anything with people and gear? Stupid.

Ram has got to address this on the next gen 1500.

Having said that, all 1500s are like this. On paper Ram is worst. But all the manufacturer's throw big numbers in the ads and people think "hey, why buy a big fuel sucking HD when this 1500 can tow 13 THOUSAND pounds. Lol. Then on the highway they are having a heart attack learning the hard way as 18 wheelers blow by them. The bones of 1500 trucks are just not designed to control the physics of it. Especially depending on what your hauling and the aerodynamics etc.

mohemipar · Oct 31, 2017

Riccochet said:
This is the site. Have to click "LOOK UP MY VEHICLE" to the right.

https://www.ramtrucks.com/en/towing_guide/

Here are the results for my VIN. 1,570 LBS cargo capacity. So, yeah, the sticker on my truck is WAY the f*** off. hahaha

Anyone know if the site actually accounts for the options of the particular VIN, or does it just pull the model and it's standard features?

Pretty sure the site said my 1500 Big Horn had the same payload (1570) but the door sticker said less as well. Cant remember exactly what it said now. Def wasnt as bad as Riccochet's lol.

Salsa · Oct 31, 2017

Your weight ratings are ridiculously low. Ouch!! I have a 2017 1500 QC 4X4 with a 6'4" box, 3.21 gears & 265 70 17 tires. I went out to my truck and took a pic of my labels. Mine said to never exceed 1570 lbs. I bought my truck to haul some firewood each year and to tow my 6X12 MC trailer when necessary. The last load of firewood we got was our biggest just above box height, with our weight & the Truxedo lo pro cover we were at 1,550 lbs. We had 20 lbs to spare. lol Take out the Cover and there's an extra 32 lbs. I also have a Shur-line scale and I'm going to weigh my MC trailer today empty & with my heaviest bike to get an Idea of tongue weight. I know riding gear will also add some weight.

I downsized from a 2000 2500 HD QC 8' box & a V10 8.0L Magnum. I don't miss that truck at all. I used to pull a heavy toy hauler with it and know that I can't do that anymore. We're retired and have a 25' motorhome to travel in & it handles my MC trailer like it wasn't even there.

P.S. It's a good thing that I lost 45 lbs in the last 1 1/2 yrs or we would have been over getting firewood.

Riccochet · Oct 31, 2017

Easiest way to do it is to go by axle rating and not exceed it. Then some minor upgrades to the suspension, like Hellwig sway bars, springs and/or air bags and a quality WDH will make all the difference in the world between white knuckle towing and comfortable towing.

6.7CumminsDrvr · Oct 31, 2017

mohemipar said:
Anyone know if the site actually accounts for the options of the particular VIN, or does it just pull the model and it's standard features?

Pretty sure the site said my 1500 Big Horn had the same payload (1570) but the door sticker said less as well. Cant remember exactly what it said now. Def wasnt as bad as Riccochet's lol.

It does not. I have yet to see an example from there that matches the sticker on a door jamb.

I went round and round with a salesman with a truck I was looking at online. I asked for the payload from the sticker, he sent me that link. So I played along and used the site to get the number, then told him to open the driver door , snap a pic and send it to me............he FINALLY realized the 2 don’t match

Jarhead57 · Oct 31, 2017

Riccochet said:
This is the site. Have to click "LOOK UP MY VEHICLE" to the right.

https://www.ramtrucks.com/en/towing_guide/

Here are the results for my VIN. 1,570 LBS cargo capacity. So, yeah, the sticker on my truck is WAY the f*** off. hahaha

Site says my payload is zero..... :roflsquared:

mtofell · Oct 31, 2017

Without talking to me, a buddy "upgraded" from a 2500 Suburban to a 1500 Ram. He got all the bells and whistles - Longhorn, air suspension, nerf bars - pretty much anything that weighed anything he has. His payload sticker...... drum roll please........ 1070#!!!!!!

He couldn't understand what the flashing light on the dash pointing at the truck bed icon meant when we were out with our RVs :roflsquared:

All he kept saying is the truck can tow 10,000# and his RV weighs 8,000#.

Yeah, some of the Ram payloads are ridiculous.

SHOOT2KILL · Oct 31, 2017

Jarhead57 said:
Site says my payload is zero.....

Mine Too...0# payload...Then I went and typed in my exact truck and the payload went to 3699#...Towing Capacity is at 12,930#...loooooool... NO ****** way I would ever hook 12k to the back of this truck and drive it at highway speeds...loooooool

sandawilliams · Oct 31, 2017

SHOOT2KILL said:
Mine Too...0# payload...Then I went and typed in my exact truck and the payload went to 3699#...Towing Capacity is at 12,930#...loooooool... NO ****** way I would ever hook 12k to the back of this truck and drive it at highway speeds...loooooool

If I were you I would sell that POS.

WilliamS · Oct 31, 2017

Riccochet said:
For your hilarious viewing pleasure. And, I did ask the dealer about that and even they said the manufacturer must have left a "1" off the front of that number. There's no way in hell it only has 774 lbs of cargo capacity. LOL

Heck thats only 3 average americans!

SHOOT2KILL · Oct 31, 2017

sandawilliams said:
If I were you I would sell that POS.

YEP...It's a POS...When used for it's intended purpose...Too many yahoo's buy HD trucks to fulfill their testosterone levels, and never really put the truck through any severe usage, other than grocerys and soccer games...lol...

BTW...Heres 1000+ posts for your reading pleasure of OTHER owners who are like minded... :love51:

http://www.ramforum.com/f38/what_dont_you_like_about_your_ram-98831/

Jarhead57 · Oct 31, 2017

SHOOT2KILL said:
YEP...It's a POS...When used for it's intended purpose...Too many yahoo's buy HD trucks to fulfill their testosterone levels, and never really put the truck through any severe usage, other than grocerys and soccer games...lol...

Yeah, i know one. Bought a 3500, I asked why when you don't tow, he said wanted big truck.

csuder99 · Oct 31, 2017

Riccochet said:
lol...my jamb sticker says 774 lbs of cargo, yet I have CC/SB 8 speed with 3.92's and is rated to tow 10,340 lbs with a GVWR of 6200 lbs.

From the 2017 towing and payload guide:

All models with 22 inch Tires (s/c TY4) have 6200 lb GVWR

There's your problem, otherwise you'd have 6900 lbs GVWR, 700 lbs more for payload.

Rzrman328 · Oct 31, 2017

csuder99 said:
From the 2017 towing and payload guide:

All models with 22 inch Tires (s/c TY4) have 6200 lb GVWR

There's your problem, otherwise you'd have 6900 lbs GVWR, 700 lbs more for payload.

Yep...here WAS mine...

Riccochet · Oct 31, 2017

csuder99 said:
From the 2017 towing and payload guide:

All models with 22 inch Tires (s/c TY4) have 6200 lb GVWR

There's your problem, otherwise you'd have 6900 lbs GVWR, 700 lbs more for payload.

I wonder what their reasoning is for that, unless those wheels can't handle the load.

Either way, going by the sticker, I can't even have 4 grown adult men in my truck without being over weight.

mohemipar · Oct 31, 2017

Riccochet said:
I wonder what their reasoning is for that, unless those wheels can't handle the load.

Either way, going by the sticker, I can't even have 4 grown adult men in my truck without being over weight.

The truck looks damn good though lol.

RaftingDave · Oct 31, 2017

Think I'm a little out of everyone else's league here - I just picked up a '17 BH QC 5.7 with 3.21's.

All I have is a 17' Flagstaff pop-up. ~2200 lbs empty, 2800 loaded. And it's just my wife and me. ~300lbs together. And my raft equipment, maybe 220lbs.

My '07 TRX 5.7 did fine w/ it. But haven't tried it out with the new wheels yet. Still on the crummy stock tires.

ddetta88 · Oct 31, 2017

Is this an issue with other 1/2 ton trucks?

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