2016 ram 2500 payload?????

Hi all
How come the payload on the new 2500 6.7l Cummins
Is only 2,380 lb. That doesn't leave a lot left for much of
a 5th wheel.

Thanks RonG

That's what they make one ton's for..

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As a 2500 it can only gross out at 10k. Most that pull fifth wheels pull with 1 tons as pin weight kills 2500.

That cummins and it's emissions equipment eat up 7-800 lbs of available payload over a Hemi.

The solution if towing heavy is the 3500.

Bigredram1 said:

How come the payload on the new 2500 6.7l Cummins
Is only 2,380 lb.

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The 2500 has coil springs and has a GAWR 6000lbs in the rear and yes the CTD is a heavy engine. It will pull anything you put behind it though.
The 3500 uses leafs and has a 7000 GAWR(SRW) in the rear.

2500 is for pull'n, 3500 is for carrying weight on its back while pull'n.

My gas powered 2500 with a full tank of fuel with me and the wife and kids which are 6 and 3. Weighed in at 7490lbs. At scales. So real world ready to go is even less payload. I should have got a one ton. Oh well maybe next time. However I have found some travel trailers that I would be happy with in lieu of a 5er.

If ever there was a truck to exceed the truck's GVWR with it's a 2500 diesel. With a set of air bags or similar you essentially have a 3500. The cranky tow weight police hate to concede this but it's true. You won't be even close to your axle weight limit which is by far the most important.

I can't remember my exact #s but with my 2500 Hemi I come in right at my GVWR of 10,000# with a 35' 5th wheel. The 5th loaded weighs about 10,500# and has a pin weight of about 1900#. My point is I wouldn't completely rule out a 5th wheel. You just can't go nuts. Probably have to keep it to 2, maybe 3 slides at most. Low to mid 30s foot range. I towed a setup like that for many miles with a previous 2500 diesel and it was a great match.

Mine has the rear air suspension (air bags only)
GAWR = front 6000 lb/rear 6500 lb

Bigredram1 said:

Mine has the rear air suspension (air bags only)
GAWR = front 6000 lb/rear 6500 lb

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I've seen stoopid big 5ers behind yer truck so x2 on mto's post; don't rule out a fifth but understand where yer limits lie.

"Oh, sweet debt. Thy name is Truck."

crash68 said:

The 2500 has coil springs and has a GAWR 6000lbs in the rear and yes the CTD is a heavy engine. It will pull anything you put behind it though.
The 3500 uses leafs and has a 7000 GAWR(SRW) in the rear.

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My 2015 has a rear axle rating of 6500 lbs.

OP, like everyone said, the 2500 is a class 2B truck, limited to 10K lbs. That is a registration issue. Certain roadways, neighborhoods, bridges, etc have a GVWR limit of 5 tons (10K lbs). Manufacturers want to offer a vehicle that meets those restrictions, but its too costly to actually use inferior products, so they simply "derate" the 2500 and limit its GVWR to fit in the 2B class.

Ford and GM have very little, if any, difference between a 3/4 ton and 1 ton truck... just a different size spacer block on the rear suspension.

Ram decided to offer coil suspension on the 2500 to provide a softer ride. That is the ONLY mechanical difference between a 2500 and 3500. If you register your vehicle for 12K lbs, you can legally load your 2500 Ram's tires to 12K lbs.

spoon059 said:

My 2015 has a rear axle rating of 6500 lbs.

OP, like everyone said, the 2500 is a class 2B truck, limited to 10K lbs. That is a registration issue. Certain roadways, neighborhoods, bridges, etc have a GVWR limit of 5 tons (10K lbs). Manufacturers want to offer a vehicle that meets those restrictions, but its too costly to actually use inferior products, so they simply "derate" the 2500 and limit its GVWR to fit in the 2B class.

Ford and GM have very little, if any, difference between a 3/4 ton and 1 ton truck... just a different size spacer block on the rear suspension.

Ram decided to offer coil suspension on the 2500 to provide a softer ride. That is the ONLY mechanical difference between a 2500 and 3500. If you register your vehicle for 12K lbs, you can legally load your 2500 Ram's tires to 12K lbs.

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spoon059
How do you reregester your truck? I live in Michigan.

Bigredram1 said:

spoon059
How do you reregester your truck? I live in Michigan.

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you would have to use an Elected Weight plate, 24,000# is the lightest in Michigan
which would make your truck a commercial vehicle and then....

you would fall under the D.O.T. rules and regulations, chauffeurs license physical for a Medical card, business name, city and state displayed on the vehicle, fire extinguisher, emergency triangle kit

and if the combined gross vehicle weight (loaded truck and trailer) exceeds 24,000# (I think) then you would fall into the Commercial Drivers License, add random drug testing, log books

check with michigan.gov for all the rules and requirements

trust me it's not worth it

Bigredram1 said:

spoon059
How do you reregester your truck? I live in Michigan.

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Not entirely certain... From reading the DMV registration rules, it appears that registration is based upon the VALUE of the vehicle, not the weight of the vehicle... SOS - Fees for License Plates, Registrations and Titles I'm not certain how (or if) weight ratings come in to play for a registration in Michigan. If there is no weight limit indicated on your registration card, then you might only be limited by the combined tire rating on your truck.

In Maryland, you pay your registration fee based upon the weight class. For a truck with a GVWR under 7000 lbs is $161.50 for 2 years. For a truck with a GVWR of 7001 to 10,000 lbs is $214 for 2 years. For a 10,000-18,000 lbs truck is an additional $9 for 1000 lbs per year.

Maryland doesn't care about the value of the truck (you pay taxes when you purchase, that's the only time value matters), they just care what weight you want to register. I could spend $214 and register for 10K lbs for 2 years... or I could spend another $18 and register my truck for 11K lbs for 2 years.

As long as I am paying for the weight I am carrying and my tires are rated to support the weight, I am LEGAL. Now, I cannot legally register my vehicle for LESS than the GVWR on the title, but I can legally register it for MORE.

monteholic said:

you would have to use an Elected Weight plate, 24,000# is the lightest in Michigan
which would make your truck a commercial vehicle and then....

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Oops, you wrote faster than I did! Why would this make you a commercial motor vehicle? 26,001 lbs is the federal standard for commercial and therefore DOT regulations. Not sure why 24K lbs would cause DOT to apply, unless I am missing something.

we're talking about Michigan, nothing makes sense!

here's an example....

say I sold you a used car for $5000, and the book value is $10,000

Michigan will charge you sales tax (remember sales tax was already paid when is was sold new) and will "try" charge you tax on the book value ($10,000) instead of the $5000 you paid for it

and because of the stupid "no fault insurance" here, we have the "HIGHEST" insurance premiums in the country