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OK, I'll play since you all want to...

First let me ask what scares you about this setup?
 

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What scares me? Nothing in perticular. Looks set up well and i said that in my first post.

What is your loaded trailer weight? What is your tongue weight? What is your payload limit versus your actual, loaded truck rear axle weight?

If you are somehow within your payload rating, then I'll be very impressed. Thanks.
 
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My GCWR is well below the 15,950# weight rating.
My Front and Rear Truck GAWR is safely below the 3,900# weight rating

My truck pulls this load just fine. The trailer with its 4 electric assist brakes stop the combination vehicle just fine.

There is no reason anyone with any common sense could not move this combination safely.

I personally see more knuckle heads with TD pulling unsafely because they have a "TD".

I see what you are saying about "rookies" pulling loads. But my rig is no more unsafe than a rookie pulling a 12000# 5th wheel with a TD. And I can tell you there are a **** load of people who go out and buy TD and a giant 5th wheel and pull away.

I think we are saying the same thing.
I personally think you should have to have a special license and combination check before you head out with a camper.
 

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My GCWR is well below the 15,950# weight rating.
My Front and Rear Truck GAWR is safely below the 3,900# weight rating

My truck pulls this load just fine. The trailer with its 4 electric assist brakes stop the combination vehicle just fine.

There is no reason anyone with any common sense could not move this combination safely.

I personally see more knuckle heads with TD pulling unsafely because they have a "TD".

I see what you are saying about "rookies" pulling loads. But my rig is no more unsafe than a rookie pulling a 12000# 5th wheel with a TD. And I can tell you there are a **** load of people who go out and buy TD and a giant 5th wheel and pull away.

I think we are saying the same thing.
I personally think you should have to have a special license and combination check before you head out with a camper.

Hi farmer, nice, good stuff, i am impressed, you have a very well thought out, good set-up.

Agreed , some folks think they can pull anything just because they have a TD and that's not good. Happy fathers day y'all!
 

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I have encountered many people that have turbo diesels that don't seam very bright.
 
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Hi farmer, nice, good stuff, i am impressed, you have a very well thought out, good set-up.

Agreed , some folks think they can pull anything just because they have a TD and that's not good. Happy fathers day y'all!

I think you and I see things the same.

Be safe and have fun :happy107:
 

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I also never want people to learn safety after the fact. I often support & provide education on using a no sway WDH. Additionally for our 1500s sometimes adding suspension support control & dampening through axle to frame air bags AND setting it up at a triple scale. Then sharing that trailer should measure level, truck should have a little rake and you find your best weight distribution in which you will learn your axle weights & CVW.

This promotes a safe set up. If you have restored at least most of your steer axle weight and are not exceeding your drive axle, are below CVW, she will handle accident avoidance wind stop & control speed down a grade etc. Some try to skip safety and just buy a HD with no WDH and a long heavy TT then tell halfers they need to buy a big truck to be safe. This is not good either we need people to learn that it's weight distribution not just weight that is best for a safe setup.

Some here may know I Transport TTs from the manufacturers to dealerships throughout the country with only a 1500 so I am very acclimated to it. I've done many often cross country transports & over the grades with 30 & 33' floor plan TTs all of which were safe & stable plus many more smaller TTs. Safe stable reliable is in scaleing & working on your setup to get decent weight distribution. Do realize what I do is new dry TTs but I have done to 9k. I'm not advocating buying a 30' TT to camp with family if you own a 1500. A HD would be a better tool for that job. But normally more things enter into it to be considered. Anyway I would rather see a 1500 w WDH that's set his load up at a scale than the same trailer behind a 3/4 ton with no WDH who has never seen a scale.

When I saw Fran's setup the first thing I looked at was that he has a WDH and the second thing was that the trailer was generally flat & the nose of the truck isn't up in the air so his steer axle isn't unloaded. Closer inspection shows the front fender is up a little & the back is squated a little so there is room for improvement but that's being hyper critical. The truck & trailer look great. If we were chatting about it I would ask about his axle numbers what weight bars etc. scary to me would be that TT & no WDH, unloaded steer axle, unlevel trailer no matter the truck or whether it's HD or LD.

Oh and yes many get hung up on payload numbers because of legal hypotheticals and often because they really don't know how to set up a load for safety. Certainly that should be considered to but actual setup and actual payload is found with your truck & wet TT on a scale not adding up some guesstimates and saying looks like I'm over the number on the payload sticker so it must be unsafe etc.
 

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Nice trailer!! I have the same floor plan in my Jayco Eagle. Mine is about the same weight, but my tongue iss about 1500lbs loaded up, so I was overloading my Tundra pretty bad. But, that led to my 2500 Ram 6.4, which I love every time I drive it!!

Overall, my 6.4 pulls about the same as my Tundra did, but man it made a HUGE difference in sway and handling going to the 2500.

Im also coming from a Tundra, just picked up my 2500 yesterday but I have the 5.7. My Tundra pulled fine but like you said, overloading my also, only 1295lbs payload. Pretty excited to see how the 2500 does next weekend
 

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Im also coming from a Tundra, just picked up my 2500 yesterday but I have the 5.7. My Tundra pulled fine but like you said, overloading my also, only 1295lbs payload. Pretty excited to see how the 2500 does next weekend

Dude, you'll love it. I had my tt out in early may. Mines only 23' ball to bumper and 6k, but still. I was impressed loaded heavy for a camping trip.

Report back please when you get back. I'm sure you'll have an experience similar to mine, and i only have the 3.73 gears.
 

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Shame on me for miss spelling a word, will you please forgive me, what was I thinking anyway.
That still doesn't change the fact that there are lots of small **** turbo diesel owners that think they are so cool owing a status symbol.
Did I miss spell any works, Mr. spell cop?
 

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