Go Back   DODGE RAM FORUM - Dodge Truck Forums > Dodge Ram Generations Forum > 1st Gen : 1981 - 1993 > Suspension


Suspension

ball joints


This is a discussion on ball joints within the Suspension forums, part of the 1st Gen : 1981 - 1993 category!
I have a 1981 Dodge 1/2 ton 2wd..I was wondering what tools ill need to change put my lower and ...


Like Tree2Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-23-2014, 03:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Age: 35
Posts: 1

Ram Year: 1981
Engine: 225
Default ball joints
I have a 1981 Dodge 1/2 ton 2wd..I was wondering what tools ill need to change put my lower and upper ball joints..thanks dustin


Sponsored Ad
Register to remove this ad.
dartsun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2014, 05:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
Redtruck-VA's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Virginia
Name: PI_greg
Posts: 5,270

Ram Year: 2003 & 1989 D250 RWD
Engine: Hemi-5.7, 5.9 12v & 24v diesel
Default
My local Advance Auto has ball joint tool kit they loan out. Basically you buy the kit and can bring it back within 30 days and get your money back. Good luck.

Edit: A special socket is needed to unscrew the top ball joint and install the new one. Becareful as it is easy to strip the threads out of the UCA. I had to replace the UCA because the previous owner welded the ball joint in place. If you need specific information send me a PM.


__________________
Greg 2003 SXT-Hemi SuperCharged, OCP manifold, billet CR 20" wheels, AeroForce gage, AFR, fuel Pressure, 46RH trans, Edge 3000, PPP Track Warrior, Shiftlite, TCI ProShifter, 180 stat, all aluminum radiator, HD Trans Cooler, DTT 4:10, LT's, Magnaflow duals cats, Mcgaughys 3/6 spindle kit, Monroe shocks, Caltracs, Aeon bumps, Roll Pan, shaved Ant, tail gate and cowl. And a 2007 QC manual trans/4wd diesel for a support vehicle.

Last edited by Redtruck-VA; 11-08-2014 at 09:29 AM.
Redtruck-VA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2014, 01:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Calgary, AB
Age: 26
Posts: 38

Ram Year: 1989
Engine: 360
Default
Originally Posted by Redtruck-VA View Post
My local Advance Auto has ball joint tool kit they loan out. Basically you buy the kit and can bring it back within 30 days and get your money back. Good luck.

Edit: A special socket is needed to unscrew the top ball joint and install the new one. Becareful as it is easy to strip the threads out of the UCA. I had to replace the UCA because the previous owner welded the ball joint in place. If you need specific information send me a PM.
How are you able to go about telling if you have a threaded ball joint? is it only the top that would be threaded?

I'm betting the ball joints on my '89 D150 (spring suspension) have never been done.
Matteo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2014, 01:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
Redtruck-VA's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Virginia
Name: PI_greg
Posts: 5,270

Ram Year: 2003 & 1989 D250 RWD
Engine: Hemi-5.7, 5.9 12v & 24v diesel
Default
Originally Posted by Matteo View Post
How are you able to go about telling if you have a threaded ball joint? is it only the top that would be threaded?

I'm betting the ball joints on my '89 D150 (spring suspension) have never been done.
I don't know what years have screwed in ball joints, but the 89 does have screw in upper ball joints. The bottom was pressed in. You are probably lucky no one has messed up the threads by beating on them.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Ball-J...afdc4f&vxp=mtr
Matteo likes this.


__________________
Greg 2003 SXT-Hemi SuperCharged, OCP manifold, billet CR 20" wheels, AeroForce gage, AFR, fuel Pressure, 46RH trans, Edge 3000, PPP Track Warrior, Shiftlite, TCI ProShifter, 180 stat, all aluminum radiator, HD Trans Cooler, DTT 4:10, LT's, Magnaflow duals cats, Mcgaughys 3/6 spindle kit, Monroe shocks, Caltracs, Aeon bumps, Roll Pan, shaved Ant, tail gate and cowl. And a 2007 QC manual trans/4wd diesel for a support vehicle.

Last edited by Redtruck-VA; 12-31-2014 at 01:20 PM.
Redtruck-VA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2014, 02:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
crazzywolfie's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: under the truck
Posts: 13,654

Ram Year: 81 93
Engine: 5.2
Default
i think you can tell if they are threaded in or pressed in by the shape of the head on them.


__________________

81 dodge d150 custom long box 318 670CFM Holley Street Avenger Carb
89 RamCharger 4x4 318/727/3.21 on 33's
93 ramcharger 318 FI 2wd
crazzywolfie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2014, 02:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
Redtruck-VA's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Virginia
Name: PI_greg
Posts: 5,270

Ram Year: 2003 & 1989 D250 RWD
Engine: Hemi-5.7, 5.9 12v & 24v diesel
Default
Originally Posted by Matteo View Post
How are you able to go about telling if you have a threaded ball joint? is it only the top that would be threaded?

I'm betting the ball joints on my '89 D150 (spring suspension) have never been done.
Originally Posted by crazzywolfie View Post
i think you can tell if they are threaded in or pressed in by the shape of the head on them.
I agree.


Matteo likes this.


__________________
Greg 2003 SXT-Hemi SuperCharged, OCP manifold, billet CR 20" wheels, AeroForce gage, AFR, fuel Pressure, 46RH trans, Edge 3000, PPP Track Warrior, Shiftlite, TCI ProShifter, 180 stat, all aluminum radiator, HD Trans Cooler, DTT 4:10, LT's, Magnaflow duals cats, Mcgaughys 3/6 spindle kit, Monroe shocks, Caltracs, Aeon bumps, Roll Pan, shaved Ant, tail gate and cowl. And a 2007 QC manual trans/4wd diesel for a support vehicle.
Redtruck-VA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 09:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 6

Ram Year: 1989
Engine: 318
Default
89 D-150 upper ball joints do screw in or cut threads as you screw them in. Takes a 2-9/64 ball joint socket 20 bucks from auto zone. Looks like a bolt head. I learned the hard way, dodge dealer told me they pressed in.

I have question. I have a 89 D-150 I pressed the threaded uppers out, yep did it twice. so I need to replace the upper control arms and ball joints maybe the bushings if I feel lucky.

I am being told my axle weight is the 4000 lbs so that confused me but have searched and have found so far that the 3000 up and 4000 lbs upper control arms are the same thru 1984 and up to 90 something. The only difference is ball joints and maybe bushings.

Does this sound correct? If so my question is ball joints. I ordered the 3000 lbs ball joints will they work? What determines the rate of a ball joint?

The truck is just a driver, I don't haul much in it. Any help on this would be appreciated.
BlindJax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 10:14 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
Redtruck-VA's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Virginia
Name: PI_greg
Posts: 5,270

Ram Year: 2003 & 1989 D250 RWD
Engine: Hemi-5.7, 5.9 12v & 24v diesel
Default
I'm new at working on my 1st gen, and didn't compare #3000 with #4000 pieces. But when I took my front apart I found the upper ball joint welded to the UCA and the ball joint stud was loose in the upper hole of the spindle. My conclusion was the PO screwed up and used 3000# ball joint and welded it in the UCA then when he assembled the spindle and UCA he found the BJ stud was smaller then the hole and just tightened it all up and call it good. Of course it was all ruined and I had to replace everything.


__________________
Greg 2003 SXT-Hemi SuperCharged, OCP manifold, billet CR 20" wheels, AeroForce gage, AFR, fuel Pressure, 46RH trans, Edge 3000, PPP Track Warrior, Shiftlite, TCI ProShifter, 180 stat, all aluminum radiator, HD Trans Cooler, DTT 4:10, LT's, Magnaflow duals cats, Mcgaughys 3/6 spindle kit, Monroe shocks, Caltracs, Aeon bumps, Roll Pan, shaved Ant, tail gate and cowl. And a 2007 QC manual trans/4wd diesel for a support vehicle.
Redtruck-VA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2015, 11:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 6

Ram Year: 1989
Engine: 318
Default
Doesn't the ball joint stud seat in the spindle hole when you torque it to spec? I'm new at this as well and finding most garages don't know as much as they claim on these older trucks. Sounds more like the cat pressed the ball joint out and didn't want to own up to his mistake because if he did it surely ruined the upper control arm. If I understand ball joints correctly it's all about tensile strength of the ball joint when working with something so close to each other. I bought the 3000 lbs ball joints not knowing gvw difference but learned for this vehicle and manufacture of ball joint it didn't matter they were the same.

I replaced all of my steering linkage and ball joints and cam and caster parts and upper control arms and had the garage align it and now it binds on the pavement like a 4x4 and they can't figure out why on top of them calling it good to go and I can't drive it now. Their fall back is I supplied the parts. so anytime I make a hard turn it binds.

I'm thinking when I put the adjusting sleeves on and tie rod ends in I screwed them in to far. so maybe if I take the right side apart re-thread the sleeve on and then the tie rod end maybe I can back it off.
BlindJax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2015, 11:43 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
Redtruck-VA's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Virginia
Name: PI_greg
Posts: 5,270

Ram Year: 2003 & 1989 D250 RWD
Engine: Hemi-5.7, 5.9 12v & 24v diesel
Default
Originally Posted by BlindJax View Post
Doesn't the ball joint stud seat in the spindle hole when you torque it to spec? I'm new at this as well and finding most garages don't know as much as they claim on these older trucks. Sounds more like the cat pressed the ball joint out and didn't want to own up to his mistake because if he did it surely ruined the upper control arm. If I understand ball joints correctly it's all about tensile strength of the ball joint when working with something so close to each other. I bought the 3000 lbs ball joints not knowing gvw difference but learned for this vehicle and manufacture of ball joint it didn't matter they were the same.

I replaced all of my steering linkage and ball joints and cam and caster parts and upper control arms and had the garage align it and now it binds on the pavement like a 4x4 and they can't figure out why on top of them calling it good to go and I can't drive it now. Their fall back is I supplied the parts. so anytime I make a hard turn it binds.

I'm thinking when I put the adjusting sleeves on and tie rod ends in I screwed them in to far. so maybe if I take the right side apart re-thread the sleeve on and then the tie rod end maybe I can back it off.
The ball joint is threaded into the upper control arm and if he pressed out the old one, I'd say he ruined the upper control arm. The ball joint stud as I understand has two sizes, #3000 (smaller) #4000 (larger) diameter stud. If you used the smaller it will easy go in the hole being smaller and no matter how tight you make it, it will still be loose and shortly ruin the taper in the upper hole of the knuckle. Look at some of the pictures I posted earlier. I think if you are not careful you'll end up with the same mess I had.


__________________
Greg 2003 SXT-Hemi SuperCharged, OCP manifold, billet CR 20" wheels, AeroForce gage, AFR, fuel Pressure, 46RH trans, Edge 3000, PPP Track Warrior, Shiftlite, TCI ProShifter, 180 stat, all aluminum radiator, HD Trans Cooler, DTT 4:10, LT's, Magnaflow duals cats, Mcgaughys 3/6 spindle kit, Monroe shocks, Caltracs, Aeon bumps, Roll Pan, shaved Ant, tail gate and cowl. And a 2007 QC manual trans/4wd diesel for a support vehicle.
Redtruck-VA is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
1st gen ball joints, replacing ball joints

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ball joints biker50610 General Discussion 0 05-08-2014 02:19 PM
Getting out the own ball joints. Help MoparSickness77 General Discussions 6 04-27-2012 01:10 AM
Ball Joints OlDirtyJohn Lifted 31 11-09-2011 09:00 AM
Ball Joints iSlacker816 2nd Gen DIY 2 11-02-2011 11:17 PM
ball joints bigtigga84 Tech Info 20 02-10-2011 03:56 AM

<




GM Truck Forum
Ford Raptor Forum
Chevy Tahoe Forum
Chevy Cobalt Forum
Chevy Camaro Forum
Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum
Ford Truck Forum
88-98 GM Truck Forum
73-87 Gm Truck Forum
Ford Expedition Forum
Chevy Equinox Forum
Chevy Cruze Forum
Jeep Liberty Forum
Jeep Forum
Dodge Ram SRT10 Forum
Chrysler 200 Forum
Scion xD Forum
Scion xB Forum
Dodge Challenger Forum
SRT Forum
Nissan Titan Forum
Buick Enclave Forum
Cadillac Forum
Cadillac XTS Forum