2500 Snow plow prep group

What is this snow stuff you speak of???

i guess 30 years in the snow plowing business doesnt give you enough common sense to read the build sheet before buying a truck for a specific purpose to make sure it fits your needs.

why don't you just ride off into the sunset and not look back

monteholic said:

why don't you just ride off into the sunset and not look back

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We could only wish.

theviking said:

The trans ratio's would probably work a lot better for you with the 4.10 gears

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That was going to be my comment. If you know your going to be spending a lot of time in 1st, 2nd and reverse gear, working the truck hard and pushing heavy, wet snow, would you not select the lowest possible differential gear ratio available?

Regardless of whether the truck has the snow chief or snow plow prep package. I would have insisted on a 4.10 geared truck, or just planned on upgrading to 4.56s after purchase. With 4.56s, I'd bet it'd push snow great and have less strain on the trans.

Instead of complaining about it, spend the money to make it right for your intended purpose and you'll be happy in the long run

theviking said:

The trans ratio's would probably work a lot better for you with the 4.10 gears

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thats the point i was getting at. a person that thinks logically would realize they ****** up and bought a truck that didn't have the optimal gear ratio's for their situation, instead of blaming a company that built something thats not ideal for them, but probably works perfectly fine for other people out there.

So bottom line then, instead of saying not to purchase an HD Ram for commercial snowplowing, he should be saying:

Make sure to purchase the correct HD Ram for commercial snowplowing.

I wouldn't hesitate to get a Ram 2500 reg cab long box as a plow truck. I was looking at a new 5.7L version as it's all that I need, for my needs and has the payload I need. Initially I looked at a similar spec'd GM 2500 with the 6.0L gas but option to option it's more money than the Ram. It ultimately comes down to cost when running a business and I looked at GM for the longer service intervals on the gas engine as it saves cost. A tune up every 100K on the GM versus 40K miles on the Ram. The GM I test drove (ext cab std box WT spec) rode better than the Ram but commanded a $5K premium and the dealer refused to budge on price. I was going to consider Ford but won't go near the aluminum body as long term maintenance and body work will be costly.

I plow with my '17 2500 with the snow chief package. I have no complaints other than the coolant smell that I do not see leaking anywhere. I have to send it to the dealer after winter is over. I have the Fisher 8.6" XV2 and with it scooped, I can stack piles like a front end loader. I plow one commercial lot, which is where I work, and it is a huge lot. My others are just driveways. I could have sworn that on my sticker, it said it has heavy duty upgraded coils in the front. That is also what the guy told me who installed it. He installs plows for mainly Dodge and Ford dealerships.

Dodge4x4810 said:

I plow with my '17 2500 with the snow chief package. I have no complaints other than the coolant smell that I do not see leaking anywhere. I have to send it to the dealer after winter is over. I have the Fisher 8.6" XV2 and with it scooped, I can stack piles like a front end loader. I plow one commercial lot, which is where I work, and it is a huge lot. My others are just driveways. I could have sworn that on my sticker, it said it has heavy duty upgraded coils in the front. That is also what the guy told me who installed it. He installs plows for mainly Dodge and Ford dealerships.

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There is something like over 20 different coils that are available for the truck. Depends on your specific configuration. But yes, with a snow plow package you get one of the heavier coils. Thanks for your review.

just cause he lives in SoCal doesn’t mean he doesn’t have real world experience. For all you know he has a vacation home where it snows. I know he often visits a place that received over 600 inches of snowfall last winter. Everyone should try and be helpful.

Skrap said:

Yep, I don't have to plow much snow here in OC. One doesn't need much snow plowing experience to figure out that you bought a truck knowing full well that it didn't meet your specs and your 30 years for plowing expertise to be a capable plow rig. AND YOU STILL BOUGHT THE PHUCKING TRUCK TO USE AS A PLOW RIG!! It met none of the three important specs you complain about and yet you laid down the cash for said truck. Then you come on here and ***** and moan about what a giant POS the truck is for plowing. Don't you see how foolish you sound, because everyone else in the last 67 post surely can see it. Ohhhh, and it looks like you still have that POS HD Ram to still plow with. Shouldn't you have sold it by now for a Ford?

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Guy thinks everyone else is stoooopid but doesn’t know how to check specs on a truck he’s buying.

I don’t think anyone will dispute that dealers should be ordering more trucks with 4.10s for people. But dealers are ordering inventory based on what they are already selling. If they are selling trucks with 3.73s, that’s what they are gonna keep ordering from the factory. Whether that is because people want the 3.73’s or because guys like him^ just buy whatever and not do research… not their problem. If a large enough amount of people went into the show room and said "what, no 4.10 truck? Im outta here", they would adjust their ordering. But that just doesn't happen. Maybe Ram would sell more HDs if dealers stocked a few extras with 4.10s on the lot. IDK. Bottom line is it’s up to the buyer to know what they are buying and if it’s best for them. If not, custom order the damn truck. Mine took FOUR weeks to get built and delivered.

I knew a dude plowing in MA for years with a 5.7 2500. All it is back there is wet heavy snow and steep hills. Guy loved the thing and told me he dumped a Chevy for it. I wasn’t even a Ram owner at the time when he told me this. Had a Chevy sitting in the drive way lol. That 5.7 did sound good pushing snow up the hill.

Interesting, I bought my 2500 at Safford CJDR in Winchester, VA. The majority of their stock had 4.10s in them, including the one I bought. Guess their truck manager has a handle on the market, this is truck country....

This thread is insanely hillarious... some clown buys a truck with the wrong specs for the job at hand, claims to be an "expert", yet doesn't do any research before buying THE most important and expensive tool for his profession....and he blames the manufacturer. LOL!

He probably owns a 98' Camry and wonders why he isn't winning a 1/4 mile drag races. Then blames Toyota for making a crap car.

He probably blames McDonalds for making him fat.

He probably blamed his pencil in high school for flunking his tests.

I hope this thread never stops, because its too much fun.

Im 30 and have been plowing for about 10 years. This is my first truck that I plow with for myself and I have no complaints about the capabilities of the Ram. I mostly plow driveways and I do some commercial lots (the one where I work is very large). It handles my 8.6" XV2 stainless very well and barely even sags when I lift.

SHOOT2KILL said:

Special Thanks to ramforum.com for giving me a platform to voice MY opinion......

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Lol yes, you have thoroughly displayed to the world your opinion, and also that you should have to put on a dunce cap when you wake up in the morning.

I will go back to enjoying my 4.10's now and have a lollipop.

smiley said:

Why don’t you just downshift the trans so it won’t go past X gear. Then you will be able to keep rpms where you want? Or regear? I would have went with the Aisin if it were me.

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Not practical to do that as when plowing you are constantly going back and forth and would have to adjust the manual gear every time you put it in drive...and I'm in no way defending Shoot's constant ridiculous ******* of a great truck brand...lol. And before he attacks me for saying that, yes, I have plowed before.

I honestly don't know if some one mentioned this or not.. got sick of all the stuff in the middle.. but I do remember reading that Ram was having electrical issues with people snowplowing, so the snow chief was supposed to have fixed that issue if you planed to plow.

SHOOT2KILL said:

LOL...I cant even respond to your alcohol induced stupidity of a post....BUT...Willyboy did it for me....

BTW...Why would you be digging up a post of mine that is over 300+ days old and quoting it if you weren't looking for a problem........

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It was an honest question? I don’t plow much and when I did it was with a 1990 Ramcharger that worked great because it had full time 4wd and was only a plow truck so we used it that way.

I actually found the thread because I looked at your profile and saw you were upset with Ram as a plow truck.

If you don’t like people responding to you I would suggest you don’t post...

Have I found a problem by asking you a question? Please let me know if you are going talk about possible solutions or simply whine about it.

Not everyone here has been plowing for 30 years and if you ask me maybe you shouldn’t have been since it clearly has made you a little insecure and combative.

Will Ram 2500 said:

Not practical to do that as when plowing you are constantly going back and forth and would have to adjust the manual gear every time you put it in drive...and I'm in no way defending this guys constant ridiculous ******* of a great truck brand...lol. And before he attacks me for saying that, yes, I have plowed before.

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Thank you for the adult answer. Funny I have a 1500 with 4.56 gears and KO2s so I imagine my truck is better suited to plow than Shoot2Kill’s minus the sag from a heavy a plow.

You can’t buy my truck with 4.56 gears... guess what I did. I solved the problem by making a change for my application. I didn’t buy mine new though and expect Ram to know what I needed.