Those with amp power steps

ocwill1 · Jan 30, 2017

Just ordered the amp power steps, those of you with them, did you use the rivet nuts that come with the steps. I have steps now that will be coming off, so I have the threaded clips that came with them.. With the success of the rivet nuts on the deezee, not sure I want to have to use them...

WilliamS · Jan 30, 2017

You will need the rivet nuts. I cant imagine the bolt pattern or thread is the same. I used them with ease, Im not sure what your experience was but they went smooth as butter for me.

The threaded inserts you have from your old boards you can try to reuse, but again there is a reason Amp uses this setup of the steel plate threaded setup?

sbarron · Jan 30, 2017

Not sure the bolt thread size would be the same between two. I had RBP steps previous to the AMP's. I pulled, (or attempted to) the RBP rivnuts and used the ones that came with AMP's kit. Before I installed the AMP's I cleaned and repainted the areas the RBP rivnuts and step hardware had rubbed to prevent rust. 4 of the 6 came out ok, 2 busted and I had to retrieve half from inside the rocker panel with a magnet. If you are going to pul the old rivnuts, go slow and easy.

On an aside, the AMP's for my year are also riveted to the rocker panel. A right angle drill is about a must for installation if you plan to use the rivets.

R/T_Fire · Jan 30, 2017

Do you have one of these tools? https://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-2...8&qid=1485814530&sr=8-3&keywords=nutsert+tool

ocwill1 · Jan 30, 2017

R/T_Fire said:
Do you have one of these tools? https://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-2...8&qid=1485814530&sr=8-3&keywords=nutsert+tool

No, but the directions show they come with something for inserting them..

sbarron said:
Not sure the bolt thread size would be the same between two. I had RBP steps previous to the AMP's. I pulled, (or attempted to) the RBP rivnuts and used the ones that came with AMP's kit. Before I installed the AMP's I cleaned and repainted the areas the RBP rivnuts and step hardware had rubbed to prevent rust. 4 of the 6 came out ok, 2 busted and I had to retrieve half from inside the rocker panel with a magnet. If you are going to pul the old rivnuts, go slow and easy.

On an aside, the AMP's for my year are also riveted to the rocker panel. A right angle drill is about a must for installation if you plan to use the rivets.

current ones do not have rivnuts, just the clamp looking things with the threaded portion in the hole. Not sure what they are called. Should be easy to pull out.

WilliamS said:
You will need the rivet nuts. I cant imagine the bolt pattern or thread is the same. I used them with ease, Im not sure what your experience was but they went smooth as butter for me.

The threaded inserts you have from your old boards you can try to reuse, but again there is a reason Amp uses this setup of the steel plate threaded setup?

My experience with the riv nuts on my F150 were with the deezee tailgate damper and they were going into an oval hole instead of round. Worked for a little while, then had to modify..

R/T_Fire · Jan 30, 2017

Definitely want a round hole for the collar portion of the rivet nut or nutsert to to smash down on to pinch the sheet metal to hold in place..

I use these a lot when tooling up our Firetrucks with tools since there is many many locations I cannot get to both sides when installing mounting brackets and such, so far they hold up well and I have yet to have a failure on my work, not the factory installed ones that's a different subject.
I ask if you had a tool like that cause I am not a fan of the bolt to smash the collar, but that is just my personal preference.

WilliamS · Jan 30, 2017

They come with a tool that uses a wrench and ratchet. They are really easy to do. Stop overthinking it. Other than the blind rivets that hold the plate in place while you setup the nutserts, thats really the only oddball thing you need.

Just a heads up, you may need to know how to repin a connector. Both motors were wired backwards. So a jewlers flat head you pull the wires from the connector into the motor and swap the wires around.

It was funny, close the door and they go down, open it and they suck up into the truck.

As well if you wire the OBD backwards they fire on the wrong side. So when I first wired it up you open the driver door it would pull up the passenger door, close the passenger door, it would deploy the dirver side.

Take your time, do not over think the install.

sbarron · Jan 30, 2017

WilliamS said:
They come with a tool that uses a wrench and ratchet. They are really easy to do. Stop overthinking it. Other than the blind rivets that hold the plate in place while you setup the nutserts, thats really the only oddball thing you need.

Just a heads up, you may need to know how to repin a connector. Both motors were wired backwards. So a jewlers flat head you pull the wires from the connector into the motor and swap the wires around.

It was funny, close the door and they go down, open it and they suck up into the truck.

As well if you wire the OBD backwards they fire on the wrong side. So when I first wired it up you open the driver door it would pull up the passenger door, close the passenger door, it would deploy the dirver side.

Take your time, do not over think the install.

Weird. First I've ever heard of something like that. Mine were just plug and play. Flawless. Didn't even have to do the jump up and down seating/adjustment.

TheOPWK · Jan 30, 2017

WilliamS said:
They come with a tool that uses a wrench and ratchet. They are really easy to do. Stop overthinking it. .......

Take your time, do not over think the install.

Agreed. The install is time consuming. But it is straight forward. The riv-nut install tool thing they give you works fine. The Riv-Nuts themselves have a hex collar, and they fit into hex shaped holes. As long as they are seated against the metal, you cant really mess them up.

ocwill1 · Jan 30, 2017

I installed them on my F250, but there were no riv nuts, the rockers were threaded for bolts. Did not have any weird wiring issues either...

thanks all

brandonjansen · Jan 30, 2017

If you have stock steps the AMP steps will bolt on directly to where the stock ones did. You can use the rivnuts that are already in the truck. You shouldn't need to install any.

ocwill1 · Jan 30, 2017

not stock steps, have the n-fabs that came with the threaded clips that set in the holes in the rocker....

sbarron · Jan 30, 2017

ocwill1 said:
not stock steps, have the n-fabs that came with the threaded clips that set in the holes in the rocker....

then you'll need to use the hardware that comes with the AMP's

InvictusII · Feb 1, 2017

Yes, you should use the new hardware that includes the steel backing plate. I thought the entire install was pretty easy. The riv-nuts were not hard at all and only took about 15 minutes to do all 8. As I recall, I counted the number of turns and also checked them with a torque wrench.

popjim52 · Feb 5, 2017

Not very hard if you have mechanical ability and common sense. Follow the directions, don't shortcut the install , nor think you know better. Its very very straight forward and the results are simply amazing. I love the steps!!!

danh63 · Feb 6, 2017

I put them on my 05 and loved them. Getting ready to order for my 16. Did everyone go with the plug n play or did you wire it up under the dash?

ocwill1 · Feb 6, 2017

popjim52 said:
Not very hard if you have mechanical ability and common sense. Follow the directions, don't shortcut the install , nor think you know better. Its very very straight forward and the results are simply amazing. I love the steps!!!

Like I said before, put them on my F250, but they already had threaded rockers.. Going in tomorrow...

danh63 said:
I put them on my 05 and loved them. Getting ready to order for my 16. Did everyone go with the plug n play or did you wire it up under the dash?

Yes, plug and play is the way to go.. If you have a tuner or something, just get a splitter off of amazon, they are cheap enough...

ocwill1 · Feb 7, 2017

installed today, had issues with the driver side hitting the pinch welds. The "seating in" as they call it does not explain what it does. Makes sense after talking to Amp Rep on phone..

danh63 · Feb 8, 2017

Great! Thanks

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