3/4 loses almost 1k payload for diesel 1ton loses nothing?

cc rider · Jan 10, 2015

So, I was looking at a build sheet (this is for 2014's). The 2500 w/ 6.4 has a 3180 payload and the diesel has 2230 payload. Now on the 1 ton the 6.4 has a 4060 payload and the diesel has a 4020 payload. Why does the 1 ton only lose 40 pounds? Or is this an error? This is regarding a big horn crew cab 4x4

loveracing1988 · Jan 10, 2015

The GVWR on the 2500's is 10000 pounds for both the 6.4 and the 6.7. On the 3500's though it changes depending on engine size, the 6.7 gets another 1000 pounds of GVWR hence the loss of only 40 pounds of payload.

cc rider · Jan 11, 2015

Interesting. So if u play with heavy toy haulers, and want a diesel get a 1 ton , not a 3/4 since the payload isnt that great on the 3/4 6.7.....or get a 3/4 gasser

loveracing1988 · Jan 11, 2015

cc rider said:
Interesting. So if u play with heavy toy haulers, and want a diesel get a 1 ton , not a 3/4 since the payload isnt that great on the 3/4 6.7.....or get a 3/4 gasser

Yep, pretty much.

NYCruiser · Jan 11, 2015

Agree. 2500 doesn't have the headroom left in its GVWR to get the full rating its capable of.

shaftman_05 · Jan 11, 2015

There is more to payload than engine size.

Frame capabilities
Brake capabilities
Suspension capabilities
Etc.

Not to mention they add the DEF tank and added weight of the engine which is what takes away from it.

loveracing1988 · Jan 11, 2015

shaftman_05 said:
There is more to payload than engine size.

Frame capabilities
Brake capabilities
Suspension capabilities
Etc.

Not to mention they add the DEF tank and added weight of the engine which is what takes away from it.

Same exact frame
Same exact brakes
The difference is the rear suspension which keeps the leaf springs which provide good load support but not the best ride quality.

14hemiexpress · Jan 11, 2015

loveracing1988 said:
Same exact frame
Same exact brakes
The difference is the rear suspension which keeps the leaf springs which provide good load support but not the best ride quality.

Will the 1 ton with the higher gvw have different front springs? Because that would help take the load of diesel and keep good payload.

loveracing1988 · Jan 11, 2015

14hemiexpress said:
Will the 1 ton with the higher gvw have different front springs? Because that would help take the load of diesel and keep good payload.

Any diesel will have a higher rate front spring to help support the Cummins. That is for both the 2500 and 3500.

14hemiexpress · Jan 11, 2015

loveracing1988 said:
Any diesel will have a higher rate front spring to help support the Cummins. That is for both the 2500 and 3500.

Gotcha figured as much just never confirmed it.

xrsman · Jan 11, 2015

loveracing1988 said:
Same exact frame
Same exact brakes
The difference is the rear suspension which keeps the leaf springs which provide good load support but not the best ride quality.

Yep ^ on the old f-350's if you bought a 350 and didn't like the ride, take out a leaf and you now have a 250 lol.

CabinDweller · Jan 17, 2015

The 2500 payload limitations are exactly why I ended up with a 3500. Most 5th wheel campers (pin weight) that we'd likely upgrade to in the future put us over the 2500 payload max. I was really surprised.

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