I guess Ford isn't built tough

Hemipower95 · Jun 8, 2016

Ram should test this out, weird I don't think I have ever come across a Ram ad.

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catch 22 · Jun 8, 2016

Wow, pretty interesting. Ram has gone to thinner metal to save weight also, I know mine will dent pretty easy on body panels.

Hans Gruber · Jun 8, 2016

catch 22 said:
Wow, pretty interesting. Ram has gone to thinner metal to save weight also, I know mine will dent pretty easy on body panels.

You can still use a truck with dented body panels. Splitting the bed open like that is another matter. A truck needs to be tough in the places. That said, my 2015 Ram bed doesn't seem particularly robust, either. But I'd bet (and hope) it's tougher than that aluminum bed. I get going to aluminum for some panels--hood, roof, maybe doors, etc. But the bed? Does seem sketchy.

Witch · Jun 8, 2016

That is not even one of the ten reasons ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8RnrdJ_mPA

Hootbro · Jun 8, 2016

I usually discount those manufacturer strength comparison video as most times they are what I call "engineered failures" that have almost no relevance in the real world.

This one though is pretty telling and had me at the empty tool box test as I have had like situations load tools and equipment in my truck.

Looks like FORD screwed the pooch on this rush to all aluminum.

Drummin4jc · Jun 8, 2016

Hans Gruber said:
You can still use a truck with dented body panels. Splitting the bed open like that is another matter. A truck needs to be tough in the places. That said, my 2015 Ram bed doesn't seem particularly robust, either. But I'd bet (and hope) it's tougher than that aluminum bed. I get going to aluminum for some panels--hood, roof, maybe doors, etc. But the bed? Does seem sketchy.

My thoughts exactly... Aluminum bed?? Come on... I will give Ford credit though as they did get one thing right.... They circled their problem.

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Rzrman328 · Jun 8, 2016

Good initiative.....bad judgement.

avantiguy · Jun 8, 2016

Let me see if I got this right. I just spent $40-50K on a pickup and I dumped 55 cinder blocks into the bed without a bed liner or Line-x coating from a few feet in the air. I'll also bet the height was carefully chosen, a foot less no holes in the Ford, a foot or two higher, holes in the GM.

I'm not a Ford fan but for the love of any truck, don't you think the dents in the steel bed are gonna rust pretty quickly. If I were Ford, I'd post a few shots of GM pickups rusted out after a few years and a few more shots of them running red lights as someone, like me, loses all the brakes in my Silverado because the cheap ass steel brake lines rusted out.

bamagrad03 · Jun 8, 2016

This video looks bad, but these videos always look bad. No truck is perfect and it seems like every manufacturer could make a similar video picking out a competitor's weakness.

That being said, the tool box drop is a pretty real world scenario, and not a good look. (Though I'd still buy a Ford truck. I'm guessing a decent bed liner would remedy most of these woes)

2000GM · Jun 8, 2016

You would think it would have been pretty easy to still make the internal box out of steel, with the outer sides being aluminum.

Casper · Jun 8, 2016

Hootbro said:
I usually discount those manufacturer strength comparison video as most times they are what I call "engineered failures" that have almost no relevance in the real world.

This one though is pretty telling and had me at the empty tool box test as I have had like situations load tools and equipment in my truck.

Looks like FORD screwed the pooch on this rush to all aluminum.

Yeah, because if they'd gone mostly aluminum and put on a steel bed the galvanic corrosion would have been wicked. So by putting so much aluminum in the rest of the truck they had no choice. Major *****!

ocwill1 · Jun 8, 2016

No one in their right mind would do that without some sort of bed liner.. Linex or even the plastic one would have protected it. I just came out of 2 Fords (150 and 250 SD) and would buy again over any GM truck...

butterscotch71 · Jun 8, 2016

ocwill1 said:
No one in their right mind would do that without some sort of bed liner.. Linex or even the plastic one would have protected it. I just came out of 2 Fords (150 and 250 SD) and would buy again over any GM truck...

Look around at work trucks, the kind that would actually see this kind of abuse. A whole lot of them do not have bed liners...

Rustycowl69 · Jun 8, 2016

ocwill1 said:
No one in their right mind would do that without some sort of bed liner.. Linex or even the plastic one would have protected it. I just came out of 2 Fords (150 and 250 SD) and would buy again over any GM truck...

you'd think that to be the case, but I've seen two of my friends do something pretty similar. I don't know how such a bad example of poor judgment happens, but it does. Maybe it's a combination of ignorance, carelessness, maybe a little alcohol involvement, too.

crazy_luck · Jun 8, 2016

avantiguy said:
Let me see if I got this right. I just spent $40-50K on a pickup and I dumped 55 cinder blocks into the bed without a bed liner or Line-x coating from a few feet in the air. I'll also bet the height was carefully chosen, a foot less no holes in the Ford, a foot or two higher, holes in the GM.

I'm not a Ford fan but for the love of any truck, don't you think the dents in the steel bed are gonna rust pretty quickly. If I were Ford, I'd post a few shots of GM pickups rusted out after a few years and a few more shots of them running red lights as someone, like me, loses all the brakes in my Silverado because the cheap ass steel brake lines rusted out.

Watch the video closely - looks like the drop height for the Ford was about a foot higher than the Chevy. Might just be camera angle, but then again we are talking about a company claiming they have the most awards last year - I didn't know recalls were awards... :crazy:

misuracaf10 · Jun 8, 2016

What happens with both trucks use a factory spray in bed liner? Similar results? If you're gonna beat up your bed and want it to last shouldn't you put in a beeline anyways ?

Not really trying to defend the Ford but there are compromises to saving weight in attempt to increase efficiency on these trucks

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Juniorss · Jun 8, 2016

I agree that most people using the bed will put in a liner, however some people won't and that is one expensive repair...

lmeavtitn · Jun 8, 2016

I know my 2015 Ram has a pretty tough bed. I had a motor/tranny dropped in it. It was a big v8 and HD truck transmission. It fell off the cherry picker about 16 inches off the bed. I have a pretty good couple dents but no punctures.

Hans Gruber · Jun 9, 2016

avantiguy said:
Let me see if I got this right. I just spent $40-50K on a pickup and I dumped 55 cinder blocks into the bed without a bed liner or Line-x coating from a few feet in the air. I'll also bet the height was carefully chosen, a foot less no holes in the Ford, a foot or two higher, holes in the GM.
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I don't get this criticism. Obviously nobody would do that to a brand new or even old truck. But the test is clearly intended to simulate many years of using it for work and the day-to-day accidents and abuse that occurs. People that use their trucks for actual work, day in and day out, actually do routinely bang up the bed by dropping materials, etc. The bed punctures too easily, period.

jasonw · Jun 9, 2016

Hans Gruber said:
Obviously nobody would do that to a brand new or even old truck.

Don't underestimate the stupidity of the general public.

I've seen guys do some pretty stupid things to brand new, expensive purchases, and then they try to get them worked on under warranty or even return them.

But I agree with the liner comments. A good quality bed liner would probably take care of that.

I guess Ford isn't built tough

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