New 700bhp Shelby Raptor = Where the hell is my Hellcat Ram?

TDevil · Apr 13, 2015

If they can do this to last years Raptor (making only 50 of them) just makes me want a Hellcat Ram even more.

But it also raises an interesting question:
Would you want a Hellcat Ram in a Raptor-esque tone, i.e. more offroad / lifted / 4x4?

or

Would you want a Hellcat Ram more in line with the old Ford Lightning, reg cab 2wd all speed / track?

I'd want the former, essentially my current QC 4x4 with maybe 2" lift and the hellcat under the hood.

Thoughts?

Dubstep Shep · Apr 13, 2015

Seems like the Hellcat Jeep is coming first and foremost.

If they do the Ram, I question whether it will be a single cab RWD like the Lightning and SRT-10. It would be cool, and for those of us that are just going to throw slicks on to have fun, it's perfect, but I think dodge will be more likely to put out some sort of 4x4 version based on the Jeep setup. They need some way to put the power down.

CMil527 · Apr 13, 2015

Crew Cab 4x4 lil drop nothing crazy obviously more sporty looking like they had the body cladding on the SRT-10 Ram's!

charonblk07 · Apr 13, 2015

Like always, it isn't Ford putting these out, it's Shelby, and in truth, I could drop a long travel suspension into my truck that would rival that truck and I wouldn't be in for another $45K either. And to answer the question, I'd gladly take either of them. I love my street truck but my next build is going to be a pre-runner type with a basic blower package.

CherryRed · Apr 13, 2015

"Just 50 will be made, with prices start at $45,000. That doesn't, however, include the base Raptor."

Tyrant · Apr 13, 2015

I love the idea of a hell cat in the Ram, but honestly I don't think its a viable product for Ram. they already have a big shortage in parts and can meet the demand on the challenger and charger, and i dont think that FCA want to skimp on quality of producing the blowers.

the SRT10 tho a great product never sold that well, because it was a niche street truck. The raptor took a totally different approach and went offroad /prerunner style and did to that truck want most people wanted to do anyway, i.e. strong motor and lift that's why it became much more successful, around here when theirs a ford truck gathering the raptors are 3 times more than the normal F-150's.

what would be great and IMO a logical step is an SRT Ram with the 475HP 6.4 motor - when ram made the Rebel they should've just done that put the 6.4 in a 1500 body with all the added parts.
you get the power, look and function all in one package!

they could also do a reg cab SRT ram - they really just have to put the 6.4 in the R/T and add bigger brakes. kinda hoping for that in 2016/17 when i'll be replacing my '12 crew cab.

BlownGP · Apr 14, 2015

Tyrant said:
what would be great and IMO a logical step is an SRT Ram with the 475HP 6.4 motor - when ram made the Rebel they should've just done that put the 6.4 in a 1500 body with all the added parts.
you get the power, look and function all in one package!

Yes, that would be sic, then get a blower. BOOM,, *** your hellcat!!! haha

charonblk07 · Apr 14, 2015

BlownGP said:
Yes, that would be sic, then get a blower. BOOM,, *** your hellcat!!! haha

Is that BOOM the fragile 6.4L pistons failing? :roflsquared:

sbuko213 · Apr 14, 2015

charonblk07 said:
Like always, it isn't Ford putting these out, it's Shelby, and in truth, I could drop a long travel suspension into my truck that would rival that truck and I wouldn't be in for another $45K either. And to answer the question, I'd gladly take either of them. I love my street truck but my next build is going to be a pre-runner type with a basic blower package.

Minus the blower that's my goal.

BlownGP · Apr 14, 2015

charonblk07 said:
Is that BOOM the fragile 6.4L pistons failing?

I guess, couldn't be any worse than the 5.7L

Makes me wonder why there is a supercharger kit claiming over 900HP :naughty:

charonblk07 · Apr 14, 2015

Actually, it is a lot worse than the 5.7L. Talking with AJ when he was up here he says he has to be super conservative because the pistons have a thinner top ring land compared to the 5.7L. Have a search on the LX forums about boosting a 6.4L with stock pistons and keeping the SRV intake manifold, nothing but disaster unless you swap pistons and ideally run a 6.1L intake manifold. At 900hp you'd need new rods anyways so you'd be in for a rotating assembly at least.

Dubstep Shep · Apr 14, 2015

The other big factor is the compression ratio. The 6.4L is a 10.9:1 compared to the 10.5:1 in the 5.7L.

That said, drop in rods and pistons are all of like $800 for pistons and $800 for rods.

powderbrad · Apr 14, 2015

Id be happy with a stouter 6.4 rcsb 2 and 4wd

lonewolf2873 · Apr 14, 2015

I'd be happy to just find a way to bulletproof my Ram I have now to handle boost, without rebuilding Trans every month, among other shortcomings.
I find it crappy Ford and GM vehicles can handle a pretty stout increase in HP/TORQUE without coming unglued at seams. I'm not crying cause my Ram is sexier but all the same, it's a shame were just about at the max capability off the assembly line stock.

Mjohnson0504 · Jan 31, 2016

I bet it wont be long.. that would be a beast

Rzrman328 · Jan 31, 2016

I don't see it happening period. Ram is already in the talks of doing away with the Hemi/hellcat by 2019.

Doesn't make sense to put that much money/time investing in a platform with only a few years left.

Just my opinion.

Saltillo Express · Jan 31, 2016

A Hellcat Ram would be a legendary vehicle along the lines of a Superbird.

BlownGP · Jan 31, 2016

Saltillo Express said:
A Hellcat Ram would be a legendary vehicle along the lines of a Superbird.

Yeah and a legendary price..

Dubstep Shep · Jan 31, 2016

Plain and simple a RWD truck can't put that power down. Not on the street. Since they aren't about to develop an AWD truck (not 4x4, there's a difference) then I doubt it'll happen.

Hemi450hp · Jan 31, 2016

I agree. I only see this being a good option if it was AWD. I'd buy 1 in a heartbeat if they offered it in an AWD version.

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