Rebel Conversion vs Power Wagon

knightjp · Nov 7, 2017

I'm trying to decide which of the two are better options.

1. Converting my 2014 1500 into the ultimate Ram Rebel
2. Getting myself a 2500 and turning that into the ultimate Power Wagon

I will be using the truck on the highway mostly with occasional weekend sand dunes and desert driving.

AFMoulton · Nov 7, 2017

Buy a 3500 and convert it to the ultimate power wagon. More payload and towing.

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Nick@GotExhaust · Nov 7, 2017

go big or go home, i vote Power Wagon but i own one so i am bias.

Ratket · Nov 7, 2017

Ram Trx Rebel-
Or a 2500 Cumin’s with a unchained Carli Kit-

Wahrsuul · Nov 7, 2017

If I'd had a choice, I'd go with a 3500.

mikeru · Nov 7, 2017

Do you have any kind of budget? Converting your 1500 to a Rebel wouldn't take much since the main differences are cosmetic. Speaking as a Rebel owner, I can tell you that they are more than capable for the uses you listed. Converting a 2500 or 3500 to a Power Wagon on the other hand would cost a lot more. Not to mention the fact that you'd have to buy the truck first. Since you already have a 1500 you're almost there..

knightjp · Nov 7, 2017

1500 to Rebel mods

Of course the Rebel TRX Concept is the ultimate Rebel. But my idea is different.

My current 2014 1500 SLT has coil suspension instead of the air suspension.
I was looking at a lot of reviews with comparisons to the Tundra TRD Pro.
The review mentioned that the Tundra used Bilstein shocks as well. But on the off roading the Tundra's coil-overs had better articulation and better handling. So with that my proposal is

Rebel Bumper and other external visual mods including wheels and tires.
Change standard SLT suspension for Bilstein coil-overs. The same ones that are on the Tundra.
Put a locking rear diff
Rebel TRX style side exhaust with integrated side steps
Warn winch integrated into the Reber bumper in the same way that is on the Power wagon.

knightjp · Nov 7, 2017

mikeru said:
Do you have any kind of budget? Converting your 1500 to a Rebel wouldn't take much since the main differences are cosmetic. Speaking as a Rebel owner, I can tell you that they are more than capable for the uses you listed. Converting a 2500 or 3500 to a Power Wagon on the other hand would cost a lot more. Not to mention the fact that you'd have to buy the truck first. Since you already have a 1500 you're almost there..

The mods will be done not all at once. I guess you could say that I plan on keeping the truck till the day I die. It is sort of building my ultimate "all occasion" vehicle.
I do need to be truthful that the vehicle will be on the street for most of the time. So it does need to keep up with SUVs doing 140 kph on the highway.

KCaudill · Nov 7, 2017

Buy a Hell Cat drop out engine and drop it in the 1500, have the ultimate sleeper. the 6.4 will fit perfectly in the 1500 even with the blower on top.

knightjp · Nov 7, 2017

KCaudill said:
Buy a Hell Cat drop out engine and drop it in the 1500, have the ultimate sleeper. the 6.4 will fit perfectly in the 1500 even with the blower on top.

Only I it comes with MDS. :naughty:

Danno · Nov 7, 2017

So your looking for a mall crawler? How about a trailer with a side by side or atv

knightjp · Nov 7, 2017

Danno said:
So your looking for a mall crawler? How about a trailer with a side by side or atv

Not exactly.. I live in Dubai. But we do have areas not to for from where I live where you can go dune bashing. Drive a couple of hours and you are in the mountains with trails similar to the Nevada desert.
So I am looking to build the vehicle that can take on anything. Something that is equally as usable in the city and on streets as well as a capable off-roader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0khNHWBaWw&t=4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-laMH9ErFEI

Danno · Nov 7, 2017

Toyota Hilux is all you need then.

knightjp · Nov 7, 2017

Danno said:
Toyota Hilux is all you need then.

knightjp · Nov 8, 2017

Nick@GotExhaust said:
go big or go home, i vote Power Wagon but i own one so i am bias.

Keeping in mind that the truck will be doing city / highway driving for most of its life with the weekend dune bashing, you still think that a Power Wagon is the better alternative?

Or does this guy have it right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0khNHWBaWw

AFMoulton · Nov 8, 2017

Will you ever tow a trailer? Anything with substantial weight? Or will you just be using it as a daily driver and maybe a light trailer?

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JPT · Nov 8, 2017

knightjp said:
Not exactly.. I live in Dubai...

I used to live in Qatar. I'm not sure people here understand the markup for American vehicles overseas. My suggestion is to stick with what you have, and put money into it to make it more trail ready.

It will be a HUGE savings...

Ratket · Nov 8, 2017

https://www.google.com/amp/www.moto...ord-f-150-raptor-vs-ram-2500-power-wagon/amp/

Have a read-

But like stated above, just upgrade what you have.

knightjp · Nov 8, 2017

AFMoulton said:
Will you ever tow a trailer? Anything with substantial weight? Or will you just be using it as a daily driver and maybe a light trailer?

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I don't have trailer. Can't say about the future though. I might have a trailer one day with a couple of quads or jet-skies.
Basically the plan is to build the truck that will stick with me till the day I die.

JPT said:
I used to live in Qatar. I'm not sure people here understand the markup for American vehicles overseas. My suggestion is to stick with what you have, and put money into it to make it more trail ready.

It will be a HUGE savings...

As much as I will enjoy having the ultimate Rebel, I have to admit that for sheer size, presence, etc., the Power Wagon is probably my dream truck.
But the practical side of me will say that the Rebel conversion is a better choice. Size does also factor in certain trails.
For instance, I've seen videos where even the standard 1500s are too big and you need a smaller truck like the Toyota Tacomas and new Chevy Colorados.

DannyMK2 · Nov 8, 2017

im probably going to catch **** for this but it sounds like what your looking for is a ford raptor.

if the power wagon is your dream truck, are you going to be satisfied with a built 1500 or are you just going to wonder "what if" you bought the power wagon instead? thats the question i would ask myself. for what your looking to do the 1500 and power wagon both have their advantages and disadvantages so its going to come down to which do you really want.

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