Zone 4" lift with bilsteins?

jwilkinson79 · Jan 27, 2017

mpittman said:
The Zone spacers give you the 4" lift. The Bilstein adjustable struts give you the level. So... both are used.

I can't speak to the factory rims, but I know you can't use them without spacers.

Thanks for the clarification.

brandonjansen · Jan 27, 2017

jwilkinson79 said:
Excuse me for sounding like an idiot. Still new to this Ram stuff, I'm headed in this same direction as OP, now so you use the Bilsteins in lieu of the spacers provided with the zone kit? Also if stock 20" wheels will be used with 35" tires what spacers would be needed? Thanks in advance.

As mpittman already stated, you need to use the Zone 4" strut spacers AND the Bilsteins together.
You need 10mm spacers at a minimum to run 35x12.5's on stock wheels. However with the lift I would recommend going larger for a wider stance. That will look more proportional for the lift height. For either option, check out Motorsport Tech as they're the brand you'll want to go with.

Mikeshemi said:
I'm going to run 1 ½" spacers with my factory rims.
I think I could get away with less but I want the tires to stick out a bit.

So a 6" lift with 3" coils would be pretty much be the same as 4" with 3" coils with bilsteins?

1.5" is the minimum you want to run to avoid having to trim the factory studs so that's a good option. The 1.5" spacers will essentially make your stock 20x9's a -19 offset which will be a good stance with the lift height.

That is correct, they're almost identical height wise. a 4" lift with Bilsteins at 1.4" will put you at 5.4" of total lift. A 6" lift by itself is 5.5" of front end lift. That being said, a 6" lift does still come with different components than a 4" lift.

WiSH2oo0 · Jan 27, 2017

brandonjansen said:
That is correct, they're almost identical height wise. a 4" lift with Bilsteins at 1.4" will put you at 5.4" of total lift. A 6" lift by itself is 5.5" of front end lift.

So with that configuration listed above, can you potentially run 37x12.50 tires as to where the standard 4" lift kit states the max tire size of 35x12.50?

Thanks

brandonjansen · Jan 27, 2017

WiSH2oo0 said:
So with that configuration listed above, can you potentially run 37x12.50 tires as to where the standard 4" lift kit states the max tire size of 35x12.50?

Thanks

Correct. With the right wheels you could run 37's on a 4" lift with Bilsteins. The wheel specs become important in that though. A setup that's too wide still won't fit.

Mikeshemi · Jan 27, 2017

Tires are here! Just waiting on the install of the lift

Solid State · Jan 27, 2017

I like that offset! :happy107:

jwilkinson79 · Jan 28, 2017

Also could I use the already purchased mevotech uca with the zone 4" kit?

bobbybones · Jan 29, 2017

I too reasonably newbie to lifting a truck but can someone provide the Bilstein part number with 4" zone lift kit being use with 3" coils. I saw a B8 5100 wasn't sure it was correct

Thanks

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bobbybones · Jan 29, 2017

My truck i am looking to lift

brandonjansen · Jan 30, 2017

jwilkinson79 said:
Also could I use the already purchased mevotech uca with the zone 4" kit?

Yes you can.

bobbybones said:
I too reasonably newbie to lifting a truck but can someone provide the Bilstein part number with 4" zone lift kit being use with 3" coils. I saw a B8 5100 wasn't sure it was correct

Thanks

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24-187367

bobbybones · Jan 31, 2017

brandonjansen said:
Yes you can.

24-187367

Thanks

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2014greatwhite · Feb 4, 2017

I know this is a dumb question but I'm going to ask anyway haha. Guys with the 4" lift and bilstien a set at 1.4. Do you also have the rear bilstiens? I have the front set at 2.8 with the rear which I believe is between 3/4 and 1. So I'm trying to figure out if with the 4" if I would set my front at 1.4 or because I have the rear bilsteins I need a different setting. Thanks.

R.L.K. · Feb 4, 2017

2014greatwhite said:
I know this is a dumb question but I'm going to ask anyway haha. Guys with the 4" lift and bilstien a set at 1.4. Do you also have the rear bilstiens? I have the front set at 2.8 with the rear which I believe is between 3/4 and 1. So I'm trying to figure out if with the 4" if I would set my front at 1.4 or because I have the rear bilsteins I need a different setting. Thanks.

Sir the rear Bilstien's are just regular o'l shocks .... a great shock yes , but just a shock and the do not provide any lift ...

You likely have 3/4" - 1" coil spacers in the rear .

R.L.K. · Feb 4, 2017

2014greatwhite said:
I know this is a dumb question but I'm going to ask anyway haha. Guys with the 4" lift and bilstien a set at 1.4. Do you also have the rear bilstiens? I have the front set at 2.8 with the rear which I believe is between 3/4 and 1. So I'm trying to figure out if with the 4" if I would set my front at 1.4 or because I have the rear bilsteins I need a different setting. Thanks.

The 4" kit you'll install likely will not compensate for much " rake " you'll remove the rear coil spacers you have now , install the rear lift per the kits instructions , install the front lift per instructions , Then reinstall your bills at whatever height you want to keep rake or not .

Mikeshemi · Feb 4, 2017

I ordered Fox 2.0 shocks for the rear with bils set at 1.4

Fender height 44" front and back

Love it! Rides better than stock!

mpittman · Feb 4, 2017

4" kit here with 3" rear coil springs. Bilsteins set at 1.4". 43.5" on all four corners. Dead level.

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brandonjansen · Feb 6, 2017

2014greatwhite said:
I know this is a dumb question but I'm going to ask anyway haha. Guys with the 4" lift and bilstien a set at 1.4. Do you also have the rear bilstiens? I have the front set at 2.8 with the rear which I believe is between 3/4 and 1. So I'm trying to figure out if with the 4" if I would set my front at 1.4 or because I have the rear bilsteins I need a different setting. Thanks.

As RLK stated, the rear shocks don't provide any lift so unless you have rear coil spacers the back end is sitting at stock height. When you install a 4" lift you'd be replacing the rear shocks anyway as your ones for stock height will no longer be long enough. So as everyone else's setup, 1.4" will likely be correct for you as that will remove 2.4" of rake from stock and will put you at or very close to level.

firemedic10584 · Feb 7, 2017

I'm doing this exact same setup. I'll be putting on the zone 4" lift with 3" rear coils this weekend and setting my bils to 1.4. I have the Toyo RTs in a 35x12.5x20 on XD badlands to finish it off. Can't wait!

R.L.K. · Feb 7, 2017

firemedic10584 said:
I'm doing this exact same setup. I'll be putting on the zone 4" lift with 3" rear coils this weekend and setting my bils to 1.4. I have the Toyo RTs in a 35x12.5x20 on XD badlands to finish it off. Can't wait!

Sir , You should start your own " DIY " Thread on how to install the Zone 4" Lift Kit .
Take notes and LOTS of picture during your install and post up a step by step HOW TO DIY on installing this kit .

I'm sure many would appreciate it!

When I install my 6" BDS I will be posting an informative, picture Heavy Step by Step DIY with many tips and notes on my install , but that will be in about 2 yrs when my power train Warranty runs out

Good luck on your install Sir and if you post a DIY , PLEASE share a link Here !

dmaw2308 · Feb 7, 2017

Not trying to jack the thread, planning on doing this set up, but I have one question. Will this set up void my factory warranty? I just bought a new 2016 in January and would hate to void the warranty.

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