12's w/ lifted crew cab?

Jwithing · Apr 8, 2017

Ok fellow addicts, I've had my ram almost two weeks now and the itch is insatiable....

I'm running a 2015 sport crewcab, daily driver, lifted 6" w/37s, 3.92, and 8 spd. Current mods are vararam, 180 thermo, hemifever tune. Going to get LT and 87mm TB. My question, any thoughts on what this'll run in the quarter? More importantly, what do I need to do for my daily driver to get it in the 12's? Will cam/heads get me there? Or should I save up for a SC? Since it's a daily and I'm looking for everyday power, NOS isn't practical. Thanks in advance my fellow gear heads!

Sillygoose · Apr 8, 2017

Ditch the 37s and lift for starters

Ram1X4 · Apr 8, 2017

Sillygoose said:
Ditch the 37s and lift for starters

That defeats the point of going fast in a big truck in the first place.

Ram1X4 · Apr 8, 2017

I know the 8spd does better with tall tires so you might not benefit from a different rear gearing but I'm interested to see what you run.

Jwithing · Apr 8, 2017

Ram1X4 said:
That defeats the point of going fast in a big truck in the first place.

Right... I'm not brain dead... I know the 37's and lift are a huge drag, but guess what... They're staying . I wanna go fast in a big truck

StoneDude76 · Apr 8, 2017

Buy a Cummins.

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WilliamS · Apr 8, 2017

supercharger with a nitrous shot off the line?

Jwithing · Apr 8, 2017

StoneDude76 said:
Buy a Cummins.

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Ha, I was seriously contemplating, but the cost was a little more than I wanted to spend upfront. Then I saw the truck I bought and fell in love with it.

StoneDude76 · Apr 8, 2017

Post some pics. Im no engine builder but I don't think you could go 12s even with a super charger. Those size tires are just to big.

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Pull Ya · Apr 8, 2017

You didn't say it's a 4x4 so I assume it's a 2 wheel drive. After the throttle body and the long tubes I'd think your going to be in the mid 13's. I agree with others about the tires being the "killer". The heads and cam will surely help but I'm just not sure you're going to get into the 12's without a supercharger or turbocharger or funny gas. This is all IMHO. I may be wrong--I was once before, but that was in the late 40's LOL
Jay

Jwithing · Apr 8, 2017

Pull Ya said:
You didn't say it's a 4x4 so I assume it's a 2 wheel drive. After the throttle body and the long tubes I'd think your going to be in the mid 13's. I agree with others about the tires being the "killer". The heads and cam will surely help but I'm just not sure you're going to get into the 12's without a supercharger or turbocharger or funny gas. This is all IMHO. I may be wrong--I was once before, but that was in the late 40's LOL
Jay

It is 4x4 w/ 3.92. If I can get in the 12's or damn near close with cam/heads, that'll suffice. If not, I'll save up for a SC, slap it on and call it a day.

Jwithing · Apr 8, 2017

StoneDude76 said:
Post some pics. Im no engine builder but I don't think you could go 12s even with a super charger. Those size tires are just to big.

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Couple of pics

Jwithing · Apr 8, 2017

Driveway is slanted, this pic shows a better pic of the lift

Jwithing · Apr 8, 2017

Sorry for the ****** pics, trying to snap them quick so I don't get sucked into a 2 hour convo with the neighbor lol

StoneDude76 · Apr 8, 2017

Nice rig. Would love to see if you can get into the 12s. Keep us posted.

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Jwithing · Apr 8, 2017

StoneDude76 said:
Nice rig. Would love to see if you can get into the 12s. Keep us posted.

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Thanks, that's why I'm not interested in smaller tires or getting a Cummins. If it's as simple as cam/heads, I may be able to swing it soon. If it's a supercharger, it's gonna be awhile.

Pull Ya · Apr 8, 2017

Matt at Moe's Performance has more experience with doing mod's and racing than most of us on here. I'm sure he can give you some information and advice about what mod's will be the most successful in getting you to your goal. He has successfully campaigned one of the fastest N/A trucks in the nation using the performance parts he sells.
Jay

MANual_puller · Apr 8, 2017

After you do the throttle body and headers get the tune updated :favorites13:

I'd love to see a lifted 4x4 crew cab in the 12s, ultimate sleeper :happy107:

BigSloth · Apr 8, 2017

Jwithing said:
Thanks, that's why I'm not interested in smaller tires or getting a Cummins. If it's as simple as cam/heads, I may be able to swing it soon. If it's a supercharger, it's gonna be awhile.

You'd nearly spend as much on the heads/cam as you would on a procharger or a LPF single turbo setup. If you're doing it yourself, parts alone would be an upfront cost of about 4600-5500 for the heads/cam, with 1250-1800 being refunded as a core charge depending on who you buy the heads from. If you're not doing it yourself, labor will vary by area but I'd say that you're looking at 1500 minimum for install.

The procharger kits are around 6 grand. LPF turbo is 4500. Whipple 2.9 is 7 grand, all of which can be installed by yourself much easier than the heads/cam.

In the end, you will spend more on the forced induction, but I think for your purposes it would suit you better. Heads/cam would make more through midrange and up top, but not down low to get it moving. The Whipple, being a twin screw, would give you the best response and low end torque and all around power that would get it moving.

Jwithing · Apr 9, 2017

BigSloth said:
You'd nearly spend as much on the heads/cam as you would on a procharger or a LPF single turbo setup. If you're doing it yourself, parts alone would be an upfront cost of about 4600-5500 for the heads/cam, with 1250-1800 being refunded as a core charge depending on who you buy the heads from. If you're not doing it yourself, labor will vary by area but I'd say that you're looking at 1500 minimum for install.

The procharger kits are around 6 grand. LPF turbo is 4500. Whipple 2.9 is 7 grand, all of which can be installed by yourself much easier than the heads/cam.

In the end, you will spend more on the forced induction, but I think for your purposes it would suit you better. Heads/cam would make more through midrange and up top, but not down low to get it moving. The Whipple, being a twin screw, would give you the best response and low end torque and all around power that would get it moving.

Great info! I didn't realize cam/heads would be so pricey. Sounds to me like the SC is the way to go for several reasons. I was looking at the Whipple and saw they got it dynoed at about 175hp gains. I seriously doubt even an aggressive cam/heads package would touch that.

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