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As others have said, just because some people have zero issues in the rain doesn't mean others don't. Some of ...

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Old 07-13-2017, 03:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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As others have said, just because some people have zero issues in the rain doesn't mean others don't. Some of the roads here in the NE get real slick just being wet. I mean I can "take off" from a stop like Granny Smith and still get spin. Last night came through a torrential downpour. I experimented at a stop light, and on green accelerated like a normal person (not racing and not trying to inch along) and a jump in the rear. Next light went to 4WD auto - made a difference. Maybe it's a placebo effect, but in inclement weather the 4WD auto makes me feel safer. I drove for almost a decade in my AWD 300 and never once had any issues with spin.
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Old 07-13-2017, 03:41 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Default How do you use/utilize 4WD in your Ram?
I guess I'm not trying to say anything is wrong with automatic four wheel drive per say, I mean hell, if ya got it, use it, unless you just don't want your front wheels to have traction at all. Auto 4x4 is much different from 4x4 Lock and a lot like AWD.

I'm just saying even here in Oklahoma we get some killer rain storms ourselves with shitty roads and more than our fair share of redneck-ified leaky cars and as long I ain't trying to take off too fast, I don't never spin a wheel and as I said earlier, I even have an open diff. Still don't even activate the traction control.

Now, pulling on to the street on a sunny day after leaving the car wash, I DO have to be careful when them tires are wet and that concrete is not. Lol. The traction control light will be like a strobe light if I ain't careful...

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Old 07-14-2017, 11:26 AM   #33 (permalink)
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After all this discussion, I found about 4 inches of standing water following most of the day rain and got everything nice and wet, then stopped. "Brake boosted" to around 2.5k RPMs, then let off the brake while putting the right foot to the floor. I got a little traction control love at around 4k when the power really shows up, but it was just noticeable and didn't cut power beyond that, and I let off at redline. Also did the same thing again without revving up first, with similar results. This is all in line with the 11 Outdoorsman 5 speed I previously owned as well. Stock Wrangler ATs, 3.92, anti spin, Hemi, traction on, 2WD; is there anything else I'm missing that's relevant or should have done? About 200 lbs of gear in the front of the bed and back seat cab and around 200 lbs including my dog and myself this time, and likely similar weights in the 11.

To everyone spinning in rain in 2WD; what is the common denominator? The crappy stock 20" tires? No anti spin diff? Constant pedal to the metal? Because the whole 'issue' that I see comes back to controlling the skinny pedal. Driving open diff vehicles (94 F150 4WD, 05 Dakota 2WD in my case) in snow and ice (and rain...) in MI, and in the FL rain (in Tampa/St Pete) only presented difficulty when I goosed it too much. I'll add again that if I had the 4WD auto/AWD transfer case, I would probably not switch it from that. But it's a truck with at least all seasons, not a Hellcat in performance rubber. No need to add sand to beds or touch 4WD until offroad or snow/ice rolls around.
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:50 AM   #34 (permalink)
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When I had them stock, shitty GSA Wranglers on, I never had an issue really with getting and maintaining wet traction but damn, those were some of the worse hydroplanin' sonsabeeotches I ever seen when I moved to Oklahoma with some of the torrential downpours we get here. Mine were only a little past half worn out but after like the second time them tires scared the crap outta me, I got rid of them and put on some Cooper Discoverer AT/3's and put an end to that crap...lol.

Those GSA's were probly some the worse tires I've ever drove on.
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:06 PM   #35 (permalink)
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People may say that 4x4 use should not exceed 35 or even 55mph. That is just a safety thing because if u need 4x4 then it is presumed you are in bad weather and slower speeds are suggested for Safety.
I think some of the 35/55mph advise comes from confusing the available systems and settings.

There are two different systems on the 1500, one with clutches, one without.

High speeds or turns with the version without clutches (no auto setting) on high traction surfaces is potentially damaging to the truck. Warnings in manual, posts on destruction from doing so, etc..

On my truck I find the use of 4 high is often counter productive. Turing on snow my truck with 4 high causes at least one wheel to loose traction by design. In some situations I have less traction with 4x4 engaged then I would in 2wd, it have to be slick enough to be a benefit. So much so I only turn it on when I'm experiencing wheel spin issues.

I get to use trucks with 4auto fairly often. I flip it into 4auto whenever it's not bare, dry, pavement.

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