I think I found Bruce Banner's Day Job

oesman · Oct 25, 2014

Tried to do an oil change on my new 2014 1500, after a bit of a break in. Drain plug was simple enough, but the damn oil filter will not budge. It's literally breaking under the force of the filter wrench. Srew driver in filter time or what guys? The incredible hulk should stick to breaking ****, not installing filters

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05singlecabHEMI · Oct 25, 2014

thats the only reason I do my own oil change. had a shop do it once and could not get the filter out. by the time i got done with it it was just a bunch on scrap metal.
also i my opinion i think shops tighten the drain plug way too much.

TylerB · Oct 25, 2014

Try a rubber strap wrench.

oesman · Oct 25, 2014

05singlecabHEMI said:
thats the only reason I do my own oil change. had a shop do it once and could not get the filter out. by the time i got done with it it was just a bunch on scrap metal.
also i my opinion i think shops tighten the drain plug way too much.

The drain plug was surprisingly tight, but came out without issue. I do agree it shouldn't be that freaking tight.

TylerB said:
Try a rubber strap wrench.

I can give that a shot. It's not that my current wrench is slipping, it's just that the filter is breaking under the force

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TylerB · Oct 25, 2014

It'll distribute the torque better than your typical filter wrench.

oesman · Oct 25, 2014

TylerB said:
It'll distribute the torque better than your typical filter wrench.

Yea you know what, after I posted that I was thinking the same thing, you're probably right, i think this thing is pinching it.

Tach_tech · Oct 25, 2014

Since it says "FACTORY INSTALLED" on the filter I'm assuming this is its first oil change. They're always rediculously tight from the factory.

Andy578 · Oct 25, 2014

yep you need something wider. you have to remember these things will tighten up on their own after a bit(just like jars) so you can't fully blame the factory/mechanic but really they should never be installed more then hand tight plus a little extra

HLram · Oct 25, 2014

also try to get the wrench up as high as possible near the very top of the filter

jwheeler · Oct 25, 2014

The factory installed ones are always super tight. They have those robots cranked up way to high.

oesman · Oct 26, 2014

Thanks fellas, was able to get the ****** off finally. It was indeed the factory installed one, said so on the bottom. I just wanted to swap out to synthetic now that I've driven it for a week.

Tried the screw driver method, no go, I could see it start to rip the filter. It's just too flimsy for that method.

Ended up taking my G8 out to a parts store and bought a socket deal and a wrench as a backup. I was thinking the socket would fit the mopar filter since it fit my mobile 1 replacement filter, it didn't. I was happy I bought the new wrench, I just gripped the crap out of the filter with it and yanked it 'till it turned. Still was way too much effort.

jwheeler · Oct 26, 2014

It is probably a fine filter. But it cracks me up that it says "high capacity". Aren't they the same size as the factory one? Wouldn't that mean there is less filter material in there if it holds more oil?

BlownGP · Oct 26, 2014

Damn, you would have thought something would have F-d up being that tight.

Crazy

oesman · Oct 26, 2014

jwheeler said:
It is probably a fine filter. But it cracks me up that it says "high capacity". Aren't they the same size as the factory one? Wouldn't that mean there is less filter material in there if it holds more oil?

Yea they are the same size. I think what they mean is 3x filtering capacity, as in it can trap 3x more material. Which seems reasonable enough if their filters are truly higher quality than whatever they compared against. They're just champion labs filters, which are perfectly fine, Mobil1 are just the easiest for me to get cheap in bulk vs. wix/purloator/etc..

Diminus · Oct 26, 2014

Most garages use German torque specs on filters "goot-N-Tight" drives me nuts when you go to change oil and the friggin filter is now one with the engine in a eternal bond....

Pull Ya · Oct 26, 2014

This was my cure for oil plugs that were to tight www.fumoto.qwikvalve.com/drainplug
I alway let the dealer do the first oil change because of the problems with the factory filter being torqued at 250# or something like that. You might think that a robot put it on but I think it was my ex-wife!!!!!!
Jay

Z77Z77Z · Oct 26, 2014

I always crank them on tight, have had a few cars with issues of blowing out past the o-ring when it's sub zero out, Who cares if they crush a little when you take them off.

WhiteExpress · Oct 27, 2014

Every factory installed filter I've removed has been a nightmare.
Dad's 6.4 Hemi... ooof, that basically turned into mangled scrap metal.

Jeff CA · Oct 28, 2014

I use K&N oil filters because they have a nut on them for easy removal. I recommend them.

oesman · Oct 29, 2014

Jeff CA said:
I use K&N oil filters because they have a nut on them for easy removal. I recommend them.

Yea that's actually a pretty cool feature. I like the Mobil 1 because I can buy them in bulk cheap and I happen to have two vehicles at the moment that use the exact same model. They have an adapter thing for the Mobil1 filters at most auto stores around here, makes it super easy as well.

AFAIK Champion Labs makes both the Mobil1 and the K&N filter, so it's all the same ****, we're both overpaying.

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