Synthetic Oil

Ludville1 said:

If I were to go to Redline 5w30, and the Royal Purple oil filter, would a once a year oil/filter change be sufficient? I will only put 3 or 4 thousand miles a year on my hemi. Thanks!

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How often do you take if for 30min minimum highway drives?


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@Ludville1: , simple answer YES !

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R.L.K. said:

@Ludville1: , simple answer YES !

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I just want to point out that vehicle that sits for long periods of time and go through the normal weather heat cycles of the day.... condensation will build up in your oil.

It needs cooked out.


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U&A said:

I just want to point out that vehicle that sits for long periods of time and go through the normal weather heat cycles of the day.... condensation will build up in your oil.

It needs cooked out.


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Headed into work , I didn't have much time [emoji16][emoji108]

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Ludville1 said:

If I were to go to Redline 5w30, and the Royal Purple oil filter, would a once a year oil/filter change be sufficient? I will only put 3 or 4 thousand miles a year on my hemi. I have always been a Mobil 1 guy, and it has Mobil 1 5w20 in it now. MDS is defeated through the tuner. I bought the truck last July, and it has 150K miles on it. Previous owner used Redline 5w30 in it for a long time, then switched to Valvoline Max Life 5w30 for the last year or so that he owned it for cost savings? The hemi runs really strong, doesn't use or leak any oil, and is pretty quiet as is. Sounds like the Redline 5w30 with the Royal Purple oil filter is a great choice for this engine. Thanks!

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Yes you should have no problem running that for a year. Like others have stated, take it out on the highway and the oil up to temp at least once every 2 weeks or so to burn off the condensation.

Burla said:

whats the msds say?

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Couldn't find the msds but I found this UOA with Archoil 9100 in it. If anyone can find a VOA please post it up.

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Gotcha.

Hay! You txting and driving mr. !!

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Didn’t mean to step on your toes. I was just standing there doing sheet metal layouts and wanted to add a little to your post.


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Hemi395 said:

Couldn't find the msds but I found this UOA with Archoil 9100 in it. If anyone can find a VOA please post it up.

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Thanks for posting.

Wanted to post a pic of my cluster and temps. Running RL 5w-30 with Royal Purple filter.

Thought it was strange your clusters don’t go below a certain temp. Took this pic as I pulled out of my garage.

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Your cluster (the actual guages) are very different from mine. Different font and have the Hot/Cold writing on them.

Could be like someone else said...different supplier at some point provides slightly different product. Would have been nice to have all readings go as low as reality but Ill live.

Hemi395 said:

Couldn't find the msds

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I just wouldn't use an additive w/o msds ever, and it's the law. Just some nasties I want to avoid that can be in those additives.

Ludville1 said:

If I were to go to Redline 5w30, and the Royal Purple oil filter, would a once a year oil/filter change be sufficient? I will only put 3 or 4 thousand miles a year on my hemi. I have always been a Mobil 1 guy, and it has Mobil 1 5w20 in it now. MDS is defeated through the tuner. I bought the truck last July, and it has 150K miles on it. Previous owner used Redline 5w30 in it for a long time, then switched to Valvoline Max Life 5w30 for the last year or so that he owned it for cost savings? The hemi runs really strong, doesn't use or leak any oil, and is pretty quiet as is. Sounds like the Redline 5w30 with the Royal Purple oil filter is a great choice for this engine. Thanks!

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So I have done two uoa's under those circumstances, one 5w20 plus rp filter and 5w30 and RP filter for 5k miles per year making the uoa's 10k oil change intervals. So I can tell you if you change it at one year mark you are probably just throwing away good oil. My tbn at one year was over 6, meaning that is stronger then many new oils, my tbn at 2 years was over three, meaning a perfect time to change. So it is up to you, you can change at one year if you have that type of lubrication budget, or you could even extend that out to two years w/o risk, maybe a year and a half, assuming you check your oil once in a while for level and color.

I think the important thing to note here as mentioned a few times is to definitely do a used oil analysis if you plan on running oil for that long.

JMO

The only reason I’m saying this is because I wanted to mention mine as a reference point. I ran redline 10w40 for 5000 miles/six months. Actually it was just shy of 5000 miles in 6 months.

My TBN was only 2.8.



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Burla said:

I just wouldn't use an additive w/o msds ever, and it's the law. Just some nasties I want to avoid that can be in those additives.

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Truth ! If you go to Walmart, or an auto parts store, there is a plethora of oil additives. My observation is they are just thick oil and Teflon. Some have a little zinc.

Corey you see that uoa? Said coolant leak, but an additive was used w/o msds, I hope that items aren't in the additive. I would research that one more, it could be that was a coolant leak, or something else. W/O msds there is no way of knowing, there is no rules against what additives can be, they even allow chlorine. buyer beware.

Well I couldn't find it on their website but I was looking at it on my phone this morning before work. I'll look on my laptop tonight. I think it's mandatory to have a msds right?

Must read for anyone considering an additive. Yes when one has hemi tick it does force you to consider additives, just be careful. It is 2018 and there still are a lot of questionable products rolling around out there, but this gov't is banning good oils but allowing these oil additives to be unregulated??? Japan?

Beware of Aftermarket Oil Additives Containing Chlorine

May 8, 2010 By Marc Roden

When we hear the term “snake oil”, the very, VERY first thing that comes to mind are aftermarket-engine oil additives. Yes they have dazzling marketing campaigns and perhaps your uncle swears by them, but virtually every last one of them is a total ripoff. They are designed for one thing and one thing only and that is to vacuum money out of your wallet. Falling victim to glitzy claims is one thing, but did you know that many of these additives can actually cause damage to your engine because they have high chlorinated paraffin content?

Chlorine-based additives have been around for decades. At one time chlorinated paraffins were used as an extreme pressure (EP) additive by motor oil manufacturers, but the downside of this type of additive put an end to that practice. The mixture of chlorine with heat, combustion by-products, moisture and wear metals can ultimately result in the formation of hydrochloric acid. As you can well imagine, hydrochloric acid is not something you want inside your engine.

Incredibly, some of today’s aftermarket engine oil treatments still have a significant chlorinated paraffin content. AMSOIL recently had an independent lab test Dura Lube Engine Treatment Booster, Motorkote Hyper Lubricant/Engine Treatment, Motorkote MK Million Mile Formula and Prolong Engine Treatment. They found that each contained significant quantities of chlorinated paraffins. The findings were published in a recent technical service bulletin: TSB: Chlorine Content of Some Engine Oil Treatments.

Hemi395 said:

Well I couldn't find it on their website but I was looking at it on my phone this morning before work. I'll look on my laptop tonight. I think it's mandatory to have a msds right?

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Yes they are supposed to, but many companies don't want to and make it hard to find, sometimes even requiring you to request it. Any legit company should have a pdf right where they sell the product.

Like Lubeguard, msds or sds right there easily available. Part of an entire box of extra information. And zmax had one as well. If it aint this easy you have to ask yourself what are they hiding.

Burla said:

Yes they are supposed to, but many companies don't want to and make it hard to find, sometimes even requiring you to request it. Any legit company should have a pdf right where they sell the product.

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Kinda like how redline comes right out and says they use PAO and ester base stock....[emoji848]

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