Need some cam info

Michael.Banks · Apr 10, 2011

I have been looking for a cam for my hemi ram and have a question. A buddy of mine said that the least expensive route would be to get a 6.1 reground. The question I have is with the wide lsa of 6.1 cams, will I have enough low end to get my quad cab moving? Any input is appreciated

OlDirtyJohn · Apr 10, 2011

a lot of guys have done exactly this. the low end torque loss isnt really all that bad from what i hear. and you can easily combat that with a set of gears.

Michael.Banks · Apr 10, 2011

That is the problem, I don't have the funds for gears. I want to make sure that I will still have power with the cam without having to do additional mods. So I am thinking that without gears a 6.1 regrind won't have the guts down low that I need to get the truck moving.

KGBIGCOUNTRY · Apr 10, 2011

Get a Comp 260, Interia Crazy Jay, Crazy Spartan or find a used Sidewinder. I had a 6.1 regrind and your the same either way. Say you pick up a used stock 6.1 then you shell out 250 for the crower regrind then you need custom cut push rods at 200 I think. What do you have far as a tuner at the moment?

Michael.Banks · Apr 10, 2011

I am running a superchip. Not really looking for a custom tune which is another reason I am looking at the 6.1 regrind. Heard that they run fine on superchip. Do you know anyone with a 6.1 regrind in a heavy truck like a qc 4x4? I would like to hear their feedback.

truckin151 · Apr 10, 2011

Rubberfrog has a 6.1 regrind in his truck I believe but all the cams llisted above will run on a sc tune (or at least should run on an sc tune). Once you get into the bigger cams then you need a tune.

Michael.Banks · Apr 10, 2011

truckin151 said:
Rubberfrog has a 6.1 regrind in his truck I believe but all the cams llisted above will run on a sc tune (or at least should run on an sc tune). Once you get into the bigger cams then you need a tune.

I am not familiar with his truck. Is it a heavier truck? Does he have good low end power?

truckin151 · Apr 10, 2011

Yeah his is a big truck. Hopefully he will chime in here soon.

0212353 · Apr 10, 2011

I think George said something to me about doing some family stuff today - he might not be on to reply.

Basically, George has a 6.1 reground cam in this big old beast:

It'll smoke 35s too, while passing emissions!

Michael.Banks · Apr 10, 2011

Can he smoke them by just stomping it or does he need to powerbrake it? What version lsa of the 6.1 does he have bc I heard there are two different 6.1's.

0212353 · Apr 10, 2011

no brakes, and I have no clue.

Michael.Banks · Apr 10, 2011

Ok, well thanks for the info. Maybe if you talk to him you can ask him to post up a video if he has it. An some info about his lsa. Thanks.

truckin151 · Apr 10, 2011

Here is his truck

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truckin151 · Apr 10, 2011

I believe you cannot change the lsa on a regrind so it will be bout what the stock 6.1 lsa is (114-116) which is very pcm friendly.

Michael.Banks · Apr 10, 2011

truckin151 said:
I believe you cannot change the lsa on a regrind so it will be bout what the stock 6.1 lsa is (114-116) which is very pcm friendly.

Well I ask about the lsa bc I read there is a 115 and a 117 version.

Michael.Banks · Apr 10, 2011

truckin151 said:
Here is his truck

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After watching that it looks like he is on the brakes. The truck noses down when he hits the gas. I guess a 6.1 isn't what I am looking for bc I want something that will really smoke them and something that will spin them without brakes.

Will any of the other suggested cams give me more power than that 6.1 will?

OlDirtyJohn · Apr 10, 2011

comp 260, crazy jay, spartan, sidewinder.

AF_Hemi · Apr 10, 2011

frog's grind is about the most power you're gonna get out of a superchips friendly cam. If you want to smoke the tires from a get-go, get a bigger cam and a custom tune and/or gears.

RubberFrog · Apr 10, 2011

There's no brakes in that. I just lift off the brakes and stab the gas. Obviously I had perfect weather, I can't do that quite so well in the summer time.

As mentioned previously, you can't get much more aggressive on a canned tune. My grind is a little more aggressive than a sidewinder/260 and is not mds friendly. If you like your mds, stick with a milder cam.

I don't know what you're running for tires, but I would love to see what I could do on a set of 32s without the shell.

I have a 115* lsa with a 4* advance.

Michael.Banks · Apr 10, 2011

RubberFrog said:
There's no brakes in that. I just lift off the brakes and stab the gas. Obviously I had perfect weather, I can't do that quite so well in the summer time.

There has to be some brakes in that. The rear wheels start turning and then nose of the truck dips before going forward. Still nice video but not a stomp and go.

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