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The wheels start turning before I go because it's a burnout... Andthe nose doesn't dip, the back end lifts up from axle wrap.
 
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The wheels start turning before I go because it's a burnout... Andthe nose doesn't dip, the back end lifts up from axle wrap.

Hey man, if you say so. But if you compare the nose of the truck to the stationary objects in the background, the nose dips.
 

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When you punch it from a stand still with stock gears and converter you wont get that same lift in the front end. It does look exactly like what he said he did though. If he had his brake down for it, it would not have looked like. The truck would have stayed still for longer and would not have shot off like that.
 
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Just check out seconds 6 - 7 of the video, slow it down and see the dip.

But really, I dont care that much to keep talking about it. Since a 6.1 is out, any input about the other cams mentioned by John?
 

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They're all good cams. There isn't much difference between a 260 and a sidewinder. If you choose to go that route, I recommend getting whichever one is cheaper at the time you buy it.
 

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alright, well lets get some more info on your truck? How big is big? Is it a lifted QC on 35's or street truck? The cams ODJ listed will all work minus the spartan cam, need a tune for that.
 

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A Crazy Spartan on a 114 would work for him... Ya know spinning aint winning when it comes to racing.
 

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Yes a Crazy Spartan will work, but a Spartan will not unless it is ground to a wider 114 LSA
 

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Yeah I know on the reg Spartan.. my 6.1 was a reground to match a Spartan spec and had alot of topend and was on a 117 with an advanced bushing made into the cam gear to advance it 3 degrees.
 
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To the guy who asked about my truck, it is a 4x4 qc with a tuner intake and Magnaflow y pipe.
 

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Honestly, you might benefit more at the moment by doing a set of gears instead of a cam. From the sounds of it you havent really done a lot to the truck so far, just the basic mods and most cams need more supporting mods to really get that rubber burning smoke show that you want out of the truck w/out holding the brakes. Gears will help tremendously with that. The cam will add more HP/TQ but more than likely not to the degree that you are looking for. Gears will give you that instant gratification and make you feel like you have a lot more tq and power when really you are only changing how the truck uses the power it already has and you get a mpg increase as well.

Take your pick between a crazy spartan, spartan regrind (6.1), regrind like rubberfrogs, comp 260 or the fri sidewinder, or do a set of gears and get more out of your cam later on.
 

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Gears are definately the better choice for a smoke show, but damn they get expensive for both axles.
 

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The gears are the cheap part.. its the install and upgrading the LSD that gets ya.
 

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Still, if you cant do the cam swap on your own or dont know a few friends that can help thats an even larger install cost than the gears due to time and labor to rip appart the engine and rebuild everything. And when you really start to add up prices for just parts for a cam, you'll be well above what the cost of gears are going to run. The install and labor is where things can move one way or another
 

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True, someone who knows what they are doing can pull and have everything swapped in 8hrs on a cam/spring/ pushrod set up. First time will be closer to 14-16 hrs. If the springs didnt take so dang long we could prob do it in 6 or less. From what I gather to correctly lash the front and rears on these trucks require 8 hrs also.
 

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Good thread Guys! When I did the gears "last" it all came together for my Truck.
Burnout, tire smokin, is a wonderful option to have....I usually wait till I'm rolling and just about to finish crossing the road or through that intersection before i let em have it and I'll tell ya you here more engine than anything and a good 30 feet of greasy Mad-Max style black marks is not a problem for Rammy (my Truck). Holding the Brakes? isn't that what the Chevy's do! (J/k). I did everything myself except the exhaust and gears install and all in all it gets real expensive in the end but do not regret doing any of the mods and enjoy turning the wrenches and most of all driving my truck and do not mind the 10.4 MPG US Avg.

Alot of good advice given so far Michael. Do the Cam and enjoy the benifits.
 

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There has to be some brakes in that. The rear wheels start turning and then nose of the truck dips before going forward. Still nice video but not a stomp and go.

I absolutely kill my 32" tall 305/50/R20s on my 5,500 lbs 2006 QCSB 2wd.

Sidewinder, APS Hemiverter, 4.56 gears, SCT/Superchips stack, 170*F thermostat, E-fan. Stock intake, stock heads, stock exhaust manifolds, stock catalysts, stock Y-pipe, single 3" magnaflow muffler.


YouTube - VID 00019-20110410-0716.3GP

I was spring clamped and running air'd down 20s attempting to hook in street trim, with a pair of wheels/tires in the bed as well.


YouTube - VID 00014 20110410 0050

I did everything myself except the exhaust and gears install and all in all it gets real expensive in the end but do not regret doing any of the mods and enjoy turning the wrenches and most of all driving my truck and do not mind the 10.4 MPG US Avg.

Alot of good advice given so far Michael. Do the Cam and enjoy the benifits.

I agree do the cam and reap the benifits. Even with the stock 4.7 converter and 3.55 gears the Sidewinder was a BEAST.

Ouch 10.4 mpg, I got nearly 14 mpg this weekend pulling a 24' pontoon boat that might as well have been a barn shaped sail into the wind.
 
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