Full kicker upgrade, Sub is too much-HELP.

mhb1638 · Feb 22, 2017

As title suggests, I have upgraded my base audio (with 8.4 NAV) to all Mopar/Kicker replacements. As it stands now, things sound better....but holy ****....The sub is insane!! I have the bass set to -7. This results in insane trebs from the front dash which have treb to -4.

Is there ANY WAY possible to have an adjustment for just the sub? Since its all highlevel factory, I don't know if that's possible. But even at -7, the bass is very punchy and overkill. Any input?

Eestee70 · Feb 22, 2017

Is the sub powered?

mhb1638 · Feb 22, 2017

Eestee70 said:
Is the sub powered?

Its the VSS sub, comes with a 200 amp. But no gain on it. No adjustment at all that I can see.

Eestee70 · Feb 22, 2017

How is it connected to the head unit?

mhb1638 · Feb 22, 2017

Eestee70 said:
How is it connected to the head unit?

factory. connects via wiretap into signal harness.

Eestee70 · Feb 22, 2017

If it's connected right ( I sure you know what you're doing) you should be sending a full range signal into the VSS and that should equalize everything to give you a balanced sound

autokraftgt · Feb 23, 2017

Does fade control effect sub output at all? I honestly don't know the factory system too well that's why I ask? Maybe fade forward will take some umph away from the sub

adrianp89 · Feb 23, 2017

Split the line going to the woofer in half and use this. You will need to wire some RCA ends on the speaker wire, but this could get the job done for you.

PAC LC-1 UNIVERSAL CAR AMPLIFIER BASS KNOB RCA LEVEL AMP VOLUME CONTROL KNOB LC1 | eBay

WilliamS · Feb 23, 2017

The kicker upgrade in the Fords is the same way, adds way too much bass and overpowers the factory setup.

Fade forward will help, the suggestion above mine is a good one as well, this will give you control of the volume of the sub without needing to fade it. As long as your are handy. There are other ways but this would give you some tuning ability to balance it into the mix.

mhb1638 · Feb 23, 2017

autokraftgt said:
Does fade control effect sub output at all? I honestly don't know the factory system too well that's why I ask? Maybe fade forward will take some umph away from the sub

Fade helps...but creates another issue LOL. Fade to the front reduces the sub output, but makes the kicker tweeters in the dash INSANELY LOUD.

adrianp89 said:
Split the line going to the woofer in half and use this. You will need to wire some RCA ends on the speaker wire, but this could get the job done for you.

PAC LC-1 UNIVERSAL CAR AMPLIFIER BASS KNOB RCA LEVEL AMP VOLUME CONTROL KNOB LC1 | eBay

Thanks I will look into this!

WilliamS said:
The kicker upgrade in the Fords is the same way, adds way too much bass and overpowers the factory setup.

Fade forward will help, the suggestion above mine is a good one as well, this will give you control of the volume of the sub without needing to fade it. As long as your are handy. There are other ways but this would give you some tuning ability to balance it into the mix.

Thanks bud. The fading helped but made other areas annoying. What I'm noticing is by reducing the bass to -6 has forced me to reduce the treble to -4 because the lack of bass in other areas has made the highs VERY high. One song will sound fine, then the next will pound the windows. I'm 40 years old, I don't want bass like I was 16 and at a football game. I want clean sound.

mhb1638 · Feb 23, 2017

adrianp89 said:
Split the line going to the woofer in half and use this. You will need to wire some RCA ends on the speaker wire, but this could get the job done for you.

PAC LC-1 UNIVERSAL CAR AMPLIFIER BASS KNOB RCA LEVEL AMP VOLUME CONTROL KNOB LC1 | eBay

I have no problem doing the work, I know a few things here and there...But I'm trying to figure out how this would work. The way this thing works is you tap into the factory amp. then run that to the Kicker amp. Then the Kicker amp runs to the sub.

adrianp89 · Feb 23, 2017

I've never done it this way, but in theory I don't know why it wouldn't work. All this does is control voltage.

If you put in-line with your subwoofer speaker wires, it would control voltage going to the woofer. If the amp has RCAs (which I don't think it does), then that would be the better route. But even then RCAs still transit voltage, although a bit lower.

mhb1638 · Feb 23, 2017

adrianp89 said:
I've never done it this way, but in theory I don't know why it wouldn't work. All this does is control voltage.

If you put in-line with your subwoofer speaker wires, it would control voltage going to the woofer. If the amp has RCAs (which I don't think it does), then that would be the better route. But even then RCAs still transit voltage, although a bit lower.

yeah its all plug and play, no RCAs.

adrianp89 · Feb 23, 2017

https://www.walmart.com/ip/43093403...75035&wl11=online&wl12=43093403&wl13=&veh=sem use something like this

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mhb1638 · Feb 23, 2017

adrianp89 said:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/43093403...75035&wl11=online&wl12=43093403&wl13=&veh=sem use something like this

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If I understand this.....the line going to the sub I would cut. I would need 2 kicker RCA pieces from above link. Wire coming from amp would go into 1 kicker piece would would go to input of bass controller, then the output would go into another kicker splice and then into the wire I cut leading to the sub??

Just making sure I'm on the same page

adrianp89 · Feb 23, 2017

Yes, in theory this should work so you can control the output of the subwoofer.

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mhb1638 · Feb 23, 2017

adrianp89 said:
Yes, in theory this should work so you can control the output of the subwoofer.

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That's what worries me LOL

adrianp89 · Feb 23, 2017

Just buy everything from Wal-Mart - if it doesn't work - return it. I am pretty confident in it will work, however I have never done this so I can't make a guarantee.

Graygoose · Feb 23, 2017

If you don't have the Alpine, the front amp makes a HUGE change, really brings the factory speakers to life, and a huge change in the sound stage.
The 200w is bass heavy on a non-changed front setup. Taking it down on the HU is the only way, there is no remote gain accessible on the VSS sub setup.

mhb1638 · Feb 23, 2017

Graygoose said:
If you don't have the Alpine, the front amp makes a HUGE change, really brings the factory speakers to life, and a huge change in the sound stage.
The 200w is bass heavy on a non-changed front setup. Taking it down on the HU is the only way, there is no remote gain accessible on the VSS sub setup.

GRAYGOOSE I was waiting on you to jump in....So....in your mind, I need to find an amp for the speakers....? Any brand? Any particular brand or setup? Right now, the sound is out of control. I have excessive highs and excessive bass no matter how far I move the slider down. So, a 4 channel amp will boost the highs enough to compensate the sub??

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