Installing OEM backup cam

loveracing1988 · Sep 25, 2016

Mpgrimm2 said:
See posts 228-231, you need to check all 4 connectors
http://www.ramforum.com/showthread.php?p=1085524

Also for see post 694-670 or so (more of the same)
http://www.ramforum.com/showthread.php?p=1273045

PS: If you want, pm me and we can talk via phone sometime this weekend (I work 3rd shift EST) to clear up any questions so you can better decide what you want to do and know what to check.

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Was not aware you were a fellow vampire.

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Mpgrimm2 · Sep 25, 2016

loveracing1988 said:
Was not aware you were a fellow vampire.

Yes, the sun is my enemy.

Had your truck in mind for this one...

Mpgrimm2 said:
Finished it. Crimped, soldered, sealing plugs, wire loom, and wrapped in 3m Electrical tape.

I'll hold on to this for the next person that's only missing this segment of the factory harness.

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Mpgrimm2 · Sep 25, 2016

jherrick88 said:
Problem, After cutting the Orange and Dark Blue wire I've lost the connector some how. Any idea how I can remedy this issue?

What happens if I try to drive the vehicle without that connector hooked up?

Thanks in advance!

The camera will work without that org/blu connection (Lin Bus CBC3 at BCM C5/E-45) but you will not have the active/turning grid lines.

Can you explain further what you did?
Did you cut the terminal of the org/db wire from the camera harness or
did you cut it off the wire that was already in the BCM connector.
Was there even an org/db wire airway in the BCM connector?

Someone else who is installing the kit may be able to cut off the terminal from the wire (leave you a few inches with the terminal) when they do the splice and mail it to you.

If I can see a good picture of the terminal (several views) I may have one if it's the same as some of the other yazaki terminals.

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jherrick88 · Sep 27, 2016

Mpgrimm2 said:
The camera will work without that org/blu connection (Lin Bus CBC3 at BCM C5/E-45) but you will not have the active/turning grid lines.

Can you explain further what you did?
Did you cut the terminal of the org/db wire from the camera harness or
did you cut it off the wire that was already in the BCM connector.
Was there even an org/db wire airway in the BCM connector?

Someone else who is installing the kit may be able to cut off the terminal from the wire (leave you a few inches with the terminal) when they do the splice and mail it to you.

If I can see a good picture of the terminal (several views) I may have one if it's the same as some of the other yazaki terminals.

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Pretty much I attempted to strip a section of the insulation with a razor and cut too deep into the wire. After that I just cut it and was going to splice everything back together. My wife went into labor and while I was trying to put everything inside and leave for the hospital I must have dropped it.

I ended up figuring it out by using the yellow wire next to the purple wire that isn't used in the install. Not sure why they include the yellow wire if we don't need it.

Now I can't depopulate the radio harness to add the last harness and be done. Nothing seems to be going right on this install. Thanks for the help though.

jherrick88 · Sep 27, 2016

Anyone happen to know what Pin 31, 32 and 33 go to?

If I can't remove them, then I guess I'm cutting them and soldering.

Mpgrimm2 · Sep 27, 2016

jherrick88 said:
Anyone happen to know what Pin 31, 32 and 33 go to?

If I can't remove them, then I guess I'm cutting them and soldering.

No. Don't do it yet!

Please see the links in post 10. They will answer/clear up most questions you will have.

Those are either the airbag/canbus wires or the wires from a partial factory backup camera harness (or 3rd brake light camera on a 2500+). You need to be certain you are looking at the correct pins. Numbers are embossed on the back of the connectors and pictures are linked in post 10. You can carefully pop out the red TPA (pin lock) and remove the pins. I can't remember if you need a small jeweler's screwdriver to release the pins afterwards or not.

Feel free to ask, but do take a look there please.

And congrats on your child.

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R.L.K. · Sep 27, 2016

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jherrick88 · Sep 28, 2016

Mpgrimm2 said:
No. Don't do it yet!

Please see the links in post 10. They will answer/clear up most questions you will have.

Those are either the airbag/canbus wires or the wires from a partial factory backup camera harness (or 3rd brake light camera on a 2500+). You need to be certain you are looking at the correct pins. Numbers are embossed on the back of the connectors and pictures are linked in post 10. You can carefully pop out the red TPA (pin lock) and remove the pins. I can't remember if you need a small jeweler's screwdriver to release the pins afterwards or not.

Feel free to ask, but do take a look there please.

And congrats on your child.

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First off, I really appreciate all the help. My plug does look slightly different then the one in the picture on Post 26. I will try again tomorrow to get those pins depopulated, I did not see any sort of locking pin to remove.

Thank you for the congratulations, we're staying busy taking care of him.

Not sure if this helps but I'll include some details about my truck below.

2014 Ram 1500 SLT 4x4
RA2 Radio, Part #: P68226685AC

Thanks again, I really need to finish this soon. I started on Sunday... :Stupid Me:

Mpgrimm2 · Sep 28, 2016

jherrick88 said:
First off, I really appreciate all the help. My plug does look slightly different then the one in the picture on Post 26. I will try again tomorrow to get those pins depopulated, I did not see any sort of locking pin to remove.

Thank you for the congratulations, we're staying busy taking care of him.

Not sure if this helps but I'll include some details about my truck below.

2014 Ram 1500 SLT 4x4
RA2 Radio, Part #: P68226685AC

Thanks again, I really need to finish this soon. I started on Sunday...

I think I may have an instruction/assembly sheet for that TE Connectivity 52 pin radio connector somewhere. I will see if I can locate it once I get home from work.

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R.L.K. · Sep 28, 2016

@jherrick88 , where are you located Sir ?

Mpgrimm2 · Sep 28, 2016

Mpgrimm2 said:
I think I may have an instruction/assembly sheet for that TE Connectivity 52 pin radio connector somewhere. I will see if I can locate it once I get home from work.

Tyco/AMP doesn't seem to have an instruction sheet, but I pieced this together from a few places.

To depopulate, you will need to remove the Red TPA lock, then use a small screwdriver (likely less than 2mm wide)to release the individual pin lock so that you can pull the wire out the back (with very little force).
(pin lock will be above or below the pin. Not sure if you access it from front or back, probably the back).

If you PM me your email, I can send you an instruction sheet for a Molex connector that will be very similar to the radio connector. Snipet Below:

00R/T said:
The retainers for the individual pins are accessed from the rear of the connector and must be moved toward the outside of the connector. You'll want to push in on the wire to get it off the tab, pry the tab up toward the outside of the connector, and then slide the pin out to the rear. I have a connector depopulating kit and one of the tools made it super easy to lift up the tab. But, you should be able to do it with a jeweler's screwdriver and some patience.

00R/T · Sep 28, 2016

Before you pull those pins out of the radio connector, make sure they're the right ones. I read that warning going in, remembered it when doing it, and still depopulated the wrong ones. The diagram in the instructions is extremely unclear.

Make sure the wires you remove are dark green with brown stripe, dark green with orange stripe, and bare. If they're gray, dark blue, and light blue with violet stripe then they are the wrong ones.

The retainers for the individual pins are accessed from the rear of the connector and must be moved toward the outside of the connector. You'll want to push in on the wire to get it off the tab, pry the tab up toward the outside of the connector, and then slide the pin out to the rear. I have a connector depopulating kit and one of the tools made it super easy to lift up the tab. But, you should be able to do it with a jeweler's screwdriver and some patience.

R.L.K. · Sep 28, 2016

This ^^^^^^^^ is exactly what I experienced. ...

Push in on the wire from the back of the radio C1 connector slide in a jewelers flat tip approximately the same width of the sockets dimensions press a bit with the flat tip ( not much ) from the bottom upwards lightly to onlock the locking tab on the socket then gently pull out on the wire while continuing to hold slight pressure up on the flat tip now pull the wire and jewelers flat tip out simultaneously. ..

Hope this helps !

jherrick88 · Sep 28, 2016

R.L.K. said:
@jherrick88 , where are you located Sir ?

I am located in Washington state.

jherrick88 · Sep 28, 2016

Thanks everyone!

So I was about to remove the wrong pins, 31-33 have nothing in them but I was gonna take out the grey, blue and light blue/violet... so thanks to all of you I still haven't managed to ruin this radio. So thank you!

Sadly I don't own a small jewelry screw driver so I will have to pick that up.

R.L.K. · Sep 28, 2016

jherrick88 said:
Thanks everyone!

So I was about to remove the wrong pins, 31-33 have nothing in them but I was gonna take out the grey, blue and light blue/violet... so thanks to all of you I still haven't managed to ruin this radio. So thank you!

Sadly I don't own a small jewelry screw driver so I will have to pick that up.

So did you populate 31 - 33 ? All you have to do is plug them in snugly , then tug gently on the wire to make sure they are seated and locked .

Hemi395 · Sep 28, 2016

00R/T said:
Before you pull those pins out of the radio connector, make sure they're the right ones. I read that warning going in, remembered it when doing it, and still depopulated the wrong ones. The diagram in the instructions is extremely unclear.

Make sure the wires you remove are dark green with brown stripe, dark green with orange stripe, and bare. If they're gray, dark blue, and light blue with violet stripe then they are the wrong ones.

The retainers for the individual pins are accessed from the rear of the connector and must be moved toward the outside of the connector. You'll want to push in on the wire to get it off the tab, pry the tab up toward the outside of the connector, and then slide the pin out to the rear. I have a connector depopulating kit and one of the tools made it super easy to lift up the tab. But, you should be able to do it with a jeweler's screwdriver and some patience.

Glad I'm not the only one who did this!! I triple checked those pins and STILL pulled the wrong ones. Agreed that diagram in the instructions is really unclear....

R.L.K. · Sep 28, 2016

Here's mine with the C-1 connector plugged into the radio.

Hope this helps .

jherrick88 · Sep 28, 2016

I keep trying to put them in but they won't lock. Is the red cover necessary to remove? Cause I can't seem to get it off and I don't wanna break it.

If they just slide in then I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for all the assistance and pictures!

R.L.K. · Sep 28, 2016

jherrick88 said:
I keep trying to put them in but they won't lock. Is the red cover necessary to remove? Cause I can't seem to get it off and I don't wanna break it.

If they just slide in then I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for all the assistance and pictures!

Yes , with a small pick on the edges of the red face of the C-1 , apply a small amount of prying pressure on the edges , you'll see the areas that are latched then you should figure out how to unlock the red face plate .
☆☆☆☆☆WARNING ☆☆☆☆☆☆
Once you have the red face plate dislodged BE CAREFUL! Do Not pull on the harness , it's very easy to pull out multiple unwanted wires !
Take pictures .
Once the red face plate is removed you should be able to slide in your 3ea wires into 31,32,33 of the C1 connector. You may need to help seat them with the pick . Then push the red face plate back on with your thumbs while keeping all the wires installed in the back with your pointing & middle fingers on both hands.

Make sure to (lightly) tug check the 31,32,33 and any other wires you may suspect have become dislodged .

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