yeah but theyre the heart beat of america and built like a rock. thats what the dealer told me when he insisted i test drive a 05 1500 silverado while shopping for my 05 ram. i told him no nicely and he wouldnt drop it. so i finally gave in he drove it off the lot and i got in the seat. power stall, erratic braking and gassing. driving like a pissed of teen ager for 3 miles took it back and told him its not for me. i wish i had a picture of his face it was priceless