Oh man, looks like 2013 is bringing something for 1500's

WhiteRam · Aug 2, 2012

Ram 1500 Likely to Get Turbo-Diesel - PickupTrucks.com News

Ramunit · Aug 2, 2012

Well the first sentence of the article says it's still several years out. Interesting anyway.

Trupiano · Aug 2, 2012

Yeah this will prolly be like a 6th gen ram thing. But definately cool!

GhostRam94 · Aug 2, 2012

Why can't they just put a 5.9 12v in it and be done???

WhiteExpress · Aug 2, 2012

I want a 3L BluTec in my 1500/

0212353 · Aug 2, 2012

The engine can be tuned to produce more than 400 pounds-feet of torque, and, in a truck platform, it is likely to be able to tow as much as 10,000 pounds.

Thats it?

I don't have a torque monster diesel or tuning, and I already have 400+ foot lb. 10K? Mines rated for that too......hmmm.

Stangshcky12 · Aug 2, 2012

0212353 said:
Thats it?

I don't have a torque monster diesel or tuning, and I already have 400+ foot lb. 10K? Mines rated for that too......hmmm.

They up the numbers much more then that they'll be hurting there own sales of 3/4 ton trucks
It's still a half ton and is targeted more for fuel efficiency rather the power and towing
I'll believe it when I see it!

WhiteRam · Aug 2, 2012

That would be super legit though.

TexasRammer · Aug 2, 2012

0212353 said:
Thats it?

I don't have a torque monster diesel or tuning, and I already have 400+ foot lb. 10K? Mines rated for that too......hmmm.

eh who cares, if you were to have a choice between a diesel and a gas, and both had the same power, which would you choose?:********:

Sagebrush2500 · Aug 2, 2012

Glad this doesn't look like an immediate reality considering I just bought a 3/4 ton for the diesel!!!

There are good points here - if the diesel makes as much power as the gas, what's the point?

0212353 · Aug 2, 2012

TexasRammer said:
eh who cares, if you were to have a choice between a diesel and a gas, and both had the same power, which would you choose?:********:

Gas. I have absolutely no need for a diesel, or a truck for that matter. Its my toy, and my drive to work is 3 miles. LOL I'd kill a diesel.

Sagebrush2500 · Aug 2, 2012

0212353 said:
Gas. I have absolutely no need for a diesel, or a truck for that matter. Its my toy, and my drive to work is 3 miles. LOL I'd kill a diesel.

LOL - think I'd take a bike for that distance!

Stangshcky12 · Aug 2, 2012

Sagebrush2500 said:
There are good points here - if the diesel makes as much power as the gas, what's the point?

For the same reason they put them in jettas and countless other small/compact cars in Europe, efficiency!
My buddy was getting upwards of 50 mpg in his TDI on the highway
If you could get 25-26 mpg out of a half ton you would sweep the market, even if it could only tow as much as a gas job

Sagebrush2500 · Aug 2, 2012

Stangshcky12 said:
For the same reason they put them in jettas and countless other small/compact cars in Europe, efficiency!
My buddy was getting upwards of 50 mpg in his TDI on the highway
If you could get 25-26 mpg out of a half ton you would sweep the market, even if it could only tow as much as a gas job

I see what you're saying. My understanding was that the emissions laws did away with the possibility of pushing significantly higher MPG (that would create a "no-brainer" off-set to the difference in fuel costs) out of a diesel.

Stangshcky12 · Aug 2, 2012

It's really hard to say actually
If you go to websites like fuelly you can see what guys are actually averaging mpg wise, 04-06 5.9 averaged about 15.4 mpg, 07-09 6.7 are averaging 16 mpg,2010-2012 6.7 are only averaging about 14.5

I would blame that more on the change in body styles and the increase in power more then the emissions
These new 6.7 (2010-present) are pushing 350 hp and 800 lb-ft compared to the 07-09 6.7s 350hp and 650 lb-ft and 04-06 5.9s 325 hp and 610 lb-ft
I'm certainly not saying that the emissions control doesn't hurt the efficiency, but I hardly ever see people throw these other factors in

Diesels big advantage is the energy density and there torque output. If you don't tune them for the absolute most power you can get out of them, you can get an almost flat torque curve, great start up torque but yet very efficient at highway speeds (i.e hybrid cars)

Cthulhu · Aug 3, 2012

Diesel in Ram is a known winner because of the Cummins experience. We've seen failure after failure with other brand of diesel engines, Detroit, Ford, Ford, Ford... oh, and Ford... Fiat doesn't have any fans with a following to draw them in.

This will be a hard sell.

Stangshcky12 · Aug 3, 2012

Cthulhu said:
Diesel in Ram is a known winner because of the Cummins experience. We've seen failure after failure with other brand of diesel engines, Detroit, International, International, International... oh, and international... Fiat doesn't have any fans with a following to draw them in.

This will be a hard sell.

That needed fixed
The ford built 6.7 "powerstroke" is actually a very well built motor in my experience
On the other hand I absolutely hate anything international anymore...

USMC1188 · Aug 3, 2012

I would consider the diesel option if I had the choice in a 1500. Again, it would be because of the fuel economy. It would always depend on pricing as well, if it were much more than the gas engine, it may not be worth it at all.

As for the Fords, I can't argue with you at all Cody. I would consider the new 6.7 strokers if I were looking for a new truck. I am not a Ford fan, but those engines mean business. That and the ol 7.3s. Those are some good ol engines.

garner · Aug 24, 2012

Stangshcky12 said:
It's really hard to say actually
If you go to websites like fuelly you can see what guys are actually averaging mpg wise, 04-06 5.9 averaged about 15.4 mpg, 07-09 6.7 are averaging 16 mpg,2010-2012 6.7 are only averaging about 14.5

I would blame that more on the change in body styles and the increase in power more then the emissions
These new 6.7 (2010-present) are pushing 350 hp and 800 lb-ft compared to the 07-09 6.7s 350hp and 650 lb-ft and 04-06 5.9s 325 hp and 610 lb-ft
I'm certainly not saying that the emissions control doesn't hurt the efficiency, but I hardly ever see people throw these other factors in

Diesels big advantage is the energy density and there torque output. If you don't tune them for the absolute most power you can get out of them, you can get an almost flat torque curve, great start up torque but yet very efficient at highway speeds (i.e hybrid cars)

Only the late 2011 auto and 2012 auto have the 800 lb-ft torque. 2010-mid 2011 auto and all manuals only have 650 lb-ft torque

WhiteRam · Mar 11, 2013

Ha I was right!

Oh man, looks like 2013 is bringing something for 1500's

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