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DISCLAIMER: After watching the 5.0 to 8.4AN conversion threads for a while, I finally did the upgrade. I am not a coder, developer, software guru, electrical engineer, etc. but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express once!

Since some have had issues with the RA4 conversion I am looking to gather some details into one thread. I will try to update the op and first few related posts as new information is found and posted.

** My plan is to host the software update files for the various 8.4AN's so people can roll back to previous versions as needed and make it easier for others to stop chasing down various VINs to get updates **


I am very interested in getting actual P/N's and FW versions from each successful 8.4AN model year (this will help with verifying what we purchase from various vendors and correct FW).

Also looking for anyone with a factory installed 8.4 AN from 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 that is willing to help verify some of these details. Anyone with the above info please post or PM me so that I can add it to the thread.


Originally Posted by cptwing View Post
Woe cowboys 14.25.05 is not compatable with 2015 radios do not install it on your radio, if it actuallly installs there is a very strong chance it will brick it!

The firmware versions for these radios have three groups (i.e. branches)

2013-2014-share the same firmware
2015-has its own unique firmware
2016-has its own unique firmware
2017 - ????
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POST 2: 2013 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
Possible & Verified P/N's:
- 5091051AA AC AD AE AF AG AI AK
- 5091051AI ... Ram_Fish1 / ... (2013 Truck w/ fw v14.25.5)

- 68211955AI ... (ebay listing / CD4Car.com)

- 68190240AD ... 05roush0090 / ... (ebay listing / CD4Car.com)
- 68190240 AA AB AC AD AE AF AG AH AI AJ AK (OemAutoParts listing)


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POST 3: 2014 8.4AN Firmware (RA4/VP4 NA)
Verified P/N's from members:
- 68224525AA ... Dodgetk81
- 68224525AB ... Jared 4.7
- 68224525AD ... Tallsilver
- 68224525AE ... (Avgas & LQK Ebay listing)
- 68224525AG ... OutlawTrucker
- 68224525AH ... (Mpgrimm2 and CptWing)
- 68224525ZH ... SitKneelBend

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POST 4: 2015 8.4AN Firmware (RA4/VP4 NA)
Possible P/N's per OemAutoParts ebay ad (need verified from members):

- 68238619AC ... (Verified via Parts clerk)
- 68238619AE ... Brakeblkram (on fw 14.23.3, update to 15.17.5 not attempted)
- 68238619AF ... ???
- 68238619AG ... CptWing (on fw 15.06.1, update to 15.17.5 not attempted)
- 68238619AH ... Jake2544 (2014 Truck w/ v15.17.5 FW. Prior 2016 RA4 had issues)

- 68238619AA ... (HankRam2015 & Indaram had problems), See post 7 and posts 41/48 .
Both members have had issues with this AA p/n accepting firmware updates (stuck at v13.44).
NavRepair.com was able to get HankRam2015's RA4 updated/working.

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Post 5:
2016 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA) - Some have had problems with it. Some have had success.
Possible P/N's (need verified from members):

- 68258671AA ... JRG18 (2015 Truck w/ FW v15.17.5)
- 68258671AA ... oGutierre66 (2016 Truck w/ FW v15.03.6) issues were harness related See post 137
- 68258671AA ... Dodgetk81 (2015 Truck w/ FW v15.30.2)
- 68258671AF ... GYSOT (2014 Truck w/ FW v15.30.2)
- 68258671AG ... Cmacks88 (2014 Truck w/ FW v15.41.4)
- 68258671AH ... ernbrdn (2016 Truck & Factory RA4 w/ FW v16.09.09)
- 68258671AH ... Atincup (2014 Truck w/ FW v16.09.09)

- 68258671AA & AE ... Getupkid & Mpgrimm2 had problems, See POST 135
( No Sound/No Volume up & dwn control. "Settings" menu locked out/doesn't recognize key in "run" position. FW v15.25.8)

- 68258671AE & AF ... Jake2544 had problems (see here)
( Weekly loss of Sound. Requires reset/battery disconnect. Tried FW v15.25.8 & 15.30.2)

Here is my understanding after several emails with NavRepair Support:
- 68258671xx series 2016 RA4’s are RAM compatible and the latest 2016 FW is v16.09.09 but they do not recommend it for pre-2016 Rams.


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POST 7: 2013-2016 8.4AN Canadian Info (RA4/VP4 CA) - Possible better option vs NA version?
Verified P/N's from members: SEE the linked post for details.

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Other useful 8.4 AN/VP4 NA/RA4 related thread links:

- Indaram's: DIY: 2013+ RA3/RA4 8.4" Radio Conversion Upgrade
This thread summarizes the useful links, schematics, and parts needed for conversion of trucks with either the 7 speed fan or 4 speed fan.

- Getupkid's: DIY 5.0 to 8.4 Navigation upgrade (Originial DIY thread - THREAD IS NOW LOCKED. SEVERAL CRITICAL POSTS LOST)

- Uconnect Software update site (if you have a valid model year VIN that matches the model year of your radio).
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FLASH THE WRONG YEAR FIRMWARE TO INCORRECT YEAR RADIOS!

- Cgeorgemo's: DIY: 2013-2014 OEM Steering Wheel Audio Control Install
Easy mod to add steering wheel controls to 2013+ steering wheels.

- Cptwing's: Installing OEM backup cam
Useful thread for installing the official RAM backup camera kits.

- Frobozz's: Hacking Uconnect 8.4A and 8.4AN
Useful reference from the Dodge Cummins Diesel forum about getting into various modes, i.e.

* Dealer Mode (Use this to identify your Radio's P/N and S/N !)
.. Hold Hot+Cold+Front defrost buttons for 5 seconds

* Engineering Mode

.. Hold Hot+cold+buttons for 5 seconds

* Screen Calibration
* How to save a screenshot to USBdrive

* Vehicle Shipping Mode (Reference Only, Not recommended)
.. Front Defrost + Browse/Enter for 5 seconds
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DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for you or what you do with your radio. It is up to you to know if these are correct for you or not. Use these files absolutely at your own risk. I am simply trying to help those that can't get a verified VIN for their 8.4AN swap or want to roll back to previous firmware for some reason.

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2013 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA, p/n)
Possible & Verifed P/N's:

- 5091051AA AC AD AE AF AG AI AK
- 5091051AI ... Ram_Fish1 / ... (2013 Truck w/ fw v14.25.5)

- 68211955AI ... (ebay listing / CD4Car.com)

- 68190240AD ... 05roush0090 / ... (ebay listing / CD4Car.com)
- 68190240 AA AB AC AD AE AF AG AH AI AJ AK (OemAutoParts listing)


Latest Version: 16.13.13
NOTE: The only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso"

- v.16.13.13 Fw Link (2013 & 2014) and Update Directions Link
List of 16.13.13 changes: 2013-2014 16.13.13 FW FCA Bulletin KL_08_054_16.pdf
MD5: 087FCFA00F5CDB2A6715D98F9244878F

- v.15.26.1 Fw Link (2013 & 2014) and Update directions Link
MD5: 61C32B7D7B079FF3EB5D77A047F550C5

v.XX
etc.



Originally Posted by cptwing View Post
The firmware versions for these radios have three groups

2013-2014-share the same firmware
2015-has its own unique firmware
2016-has its own unique firmware
Originally Posted by 05roush0090 View Post
Confirmed by Austin at NAV repair. 2013 year radios do not have the ability to display compass or outside temp. That was new for 2014 year radios.



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2014 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA, 68224525AB)
Verified P/N's from members:

- 68224525AB ... Jared 4.7
- 68224525AD ... Tallsilver
- 68224525AE ... (Avgas & LQK Ebay listing)
- 68224525AG ... OutlawTrucker
- 68224525ZH ... SitKneelBend

- 68224525AH ... (Vin Verified via LakelandMotors Parts clerk, and CptWing)


Latest Version: 16.13.13
NOTE: The only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso"

- v.16.13.13 Fw Link (2013 & 2014) and Update Directions Link
List of changes: 2013-2014 16.13.13 FW FCA Bulletin KL_08_054_16.pdf
MD5: 087FCFA00F5CDB2A6715D98F9244878F

- v.15.26.1 Fw Link (2013 & 2014) and Update directions Link
MD5: 61C32B7D7B079FF3EB5D77A047F550C5

- v.14.25.5 (Provided by another member) and Update Directions Link
MD5: A7E98C0DA5E8C72BC9F0C7BD2227DECA


Originally Posted by cptwing View Post
The firmware versions for these radios have three groups

2013-2014-share the same firmware
2015-has its own unique firmware
2016-has its own unique firmware
Originally Posted by Mpgrimm2 View Post
Well folks, my truck is a 2013 SLT and I have successfully updated my

2014 RA4/Vp4-NA (My14 pn:68224525AH)
from 15.26.1 to 16.13.13

Using the 2013-2014 fw uploaded to my RA4 FW Info thread.

- 12 units (files) were updated.
** 20 min Video **

- Text messaging voice dictation still works (vs canned responses)
- Turn by Turn Nav in instrument panel/Evic option still available in settings menu.

- can't confirm Siri Handsfree since I don't have an iPhone (but I can get one if some one knows how to verify Siri Handsfree)



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DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for you or what you do with your radio. It is up to you to know if these are correct for you or not. Use these files absolutely at your own risk. I am simply trying to help those that can't get a verified VIN for their 8.4AN swap or want to roll back to previous firmware for some reason.

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2015 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
Possible P/N's per OemAutoParts ebay ad (need verified from members):


- 68238619AC ... (Verified via Parts clerk)
- 68238619AE ... Brakeblkram (on fw 14.23.3, update to 15.17.5 not attempted)
- 68238619AF ... ???
- 68238619AG ... CptWing (on fw 15.06.1, update to 15.17.5 not attempted)
- 68238619AH ... Jake2544 (2014 Truck w/ v15.17.5 FW. Prior 2016 RA4 had issues)

- 68238619AA ... (HankRam2015 & Indaram had problems), See post 7 and posts 41/48 .
Both members have had issues with this AA p/n accepting firmware updates (stuck at v13.44).
NavRepair.com was able to get HankRam2015's RA4 updated/working.

Latest version: 16.16.13
NOTE: The only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso"

- v.16.16.13 Fw Link (2015 Radios ONLY) and Update Directions Link
List of Changes:
2015 16.16.13 FW FCA Bulletin KL_08_053_16.pdf

MD5: 0958FAB82D9C8C5975D6C4E598FEA8AA

- v.15.17.5 Fw Link (2015 radios ONLY) and Update Directions Link
MD5: 8E62CCEB8F29143CA41B9CD81C37B858


Originally Posted by cptwing View Post
The firmware versions for these radios have three groups

2013-2014-share the same firmware
2015-has its own unique firmware
2016-has its own unique firmware

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DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for you or what you do with your radio. It is up to you to know if these are correct for you or not. Use these files absolutely at your own risk. I am simply trying to help those that can't get a verified VIN for their 8.4AN swap or want to roll back to previous firmware for some reason.

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2016 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
Some have had problems with it and a some have had success using these with the conversion.


Possible P/N's (need verified from members):
- 68258671AA ... JRG18 (2015 Truck w/ FW v15.17.5)
- 68258671AA ... oGutierre66 (2016 Truck w/ FW v15.03.6) issues were harness related See post 137
- 68258671AA ... Dodgetk81 (2015 Truck w/ FW v15.30.2)
- 68258671AF ... GYSOT (2014 Truck w/ FW v15.30.2)
- 68258671AG ... Cmacks88 (2014 Truck w/ FW v15.41.4)
- 68258671AH ... ernbrdn (2016 Truck & Factory RA4 w/ FW v16.09.09)


- 68258671AA & AE ... Getupkid & Mpgrimm2 had problems, See POST 135
( No Sound/No Volume up & dwn control. "Settings" menu locked out/doesn't recognize key in "run" position. FW v15.25.8)

- 68258671AE & AF ... Jake2544 had problems (see here)
( Weekly loss of Sound. Requires reset/battery disconnect. Tried FW v15.25.8 & 15.30.2)

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Latest (installed) version: 16.33.29
NOTE: The only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso" (v16.33.29 adds swdl.upd )

- v16.33.29 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only) (Update Directions Link)
List of Changes: My16 RA4 v16.33.29 FCA tsb_08-057-16 Rev A.pdf
MD5: A8505D43036AAC8B57551A5422AF2A8C

- v.16.09.09 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only)
(Update Directions Link)
List of Changes: 2016 RA4 v16.09.09 FCA tsb_wk2_08-057-16.pdf
MD5: 851B0DC9C822972A14F5137D2F43EF30

- v.15.44.4 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only) (Update Directions Link)
MD5: F3041E917239A615B7D493F78EC82857

- v.15.30.2 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only) (Update Directions Link)
MD5: 73BECE1EA3B80CCC3D0747AB364E5A44

-------------------------------

Here is my understanding after several emails with NavRepair Support:
- 68258671xx series 2016 RA4’s are RAM compatible and the latest 2016 FW is v16.09.09 but they do not recommend it for pre-2016 Rams.


Originally Posted by cptwing View Post
The firmware versions for these radios have three groups (Branches)

2013-2014-share the same firmware
2015-has its own unique firmware
2016-has its own unique firmware
12-30-15 EDIT (Via Email):

Originally Posted by NavRepair Support Team
Here is what I know so far. There are 3 branches of SW for MY16 radios:

• MY16 Normal – Aries – UF, KL, LA/LD/LX, DS, ZD
• MY16 V2 – Gemini 2 – WK/WD
• MY16.5 – Gemini 3 – RU (minivan) coming soon

The Part# 68258671XX is for WK Vehicles (Grand Cherokee) and it runs Gemini software branch.

The RAM trucks run the DS version . DS vehicles belong to the Aries branch of Software.

So it looks like compatibility issues.

Waiting on more info to confirm.

NavRepair Support Team
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Interested to see how the 2016 radio works in 2013-15 trucks. It has a few new features.

Five big updates for 2016 Uconnect 8.4
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DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for you or what you do with your radio. It is up to you to know if these are correct for you or not. Use these files absolutely at your own risk. I am simply trying to help those that can't get a verified VIN for their 8.4AN swap or want to roll back to previous firmware for some reason.

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2017 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA) NEED more info. If you have any please share.

Possible P/N's (need verified from members):
- 68283240AB ... TNram had problems See POST 469 - Post 471
( Problems with garbled backup camera video )


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Latest (installed) version: xx.xx.xx
NOTE: The only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso" (and perhaps swdl.upd )

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Canadian RA4/VP4_CA Radio Info for those interested...

DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for you or what you do with your radio. It is up to you to know if these are correct for you or not. Use these files absolutely at your own risk. I am simply trying to help those that can't get a verified VIN for their 8.4AN swap or want to roll back to previous firmware for some reason.

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2013 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 CA)
Possible P/N's (need verified from members):

- 68184965AK (bubbasneed)
- 68184965AG (RLK)

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2014 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 CA)
Possible P/N's (need verified from members):

- 68211965AF (ebay)

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2015 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 CA)
Possible P/N's (need verified from members):

- 68238626AE (Express SN95)
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Latest version:
- v.14.32.3 Fw Link (2015 radios ONLY) (Update Directions Link)
MD5:

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2016 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 CA)
Possible P/N's (need verified from members):

- 68258675AA (in the 15.17.5 firmware update file list a few posts down)

Originally Posted by Express SN95 View Post
2015 Ram 1500 Express w/RA2 (Uconnect 5.0) from the factory.

Donor radio: 2015 Ram 1500 RA4 CA (Canadian version) part #68238626ae
Donor bezel: 2014 Ram 1500 Outdoorsman part #1uj96dx9ae
Fan control: Purchased new (2014, now has a new part #) part #68183973ab
Harness: Getupkids harness

Grand total cost: Approximately $550


So far everything seems to work great. As I have mentioned in previous posts I chose to go with the Canadian RA4 for several reasons. My reasons include no Uconnect access (ie no aircard). This to me is useless as I have apps on my phone and even if I could manage to get a Uconnect subscription I would not. In addition, I do not have to worry about swapping out my mirror for a 911 connect mirror or buying a dummy plug to not get the error message for phone. Also, I do not have to do anything with the current antenna on my truck. The stock antenna features both GPS signal and Sirius/XM.

These CA radios can also be had for a lot less then the NA version. For example, I was able to score this for around $350 shipped from LKQ in Canada. After using car-part.com to locate it, I called and confirmed the VIN through the donor trucks build sheet (obtained here through "equipment listing" Dodge - Contact Us ). The back story on my radio was that it was a brand new 2015 Laramie that was damaged in transit. As a result, I received a brand new radio with the factory screen protector still on. I will caution all who use LKQ and scrapped trucks, check, I repeat, check, the equipment listing. There are a lot of mislabeled radios that are not RA4 but RA3 and vice versa (this could work in your favor as well).

Features of this radio include HD radio, 3D navigation which works great in the lower 48 (NA Maps), Sirius/XM, and Bluetooth. Having gone through the features it appears everything works as to be expected. I have turn by turn directions as well in my instrument cluster (3.5" display).

Having run a 2013 RA4 CA in my old 2014 I can attest that that radio worked great in that truck as well. All the features worked.

Some notes with the 2015 RA4 CA. I was excited to see that I have 5 background themes (unfortunately I could not upload the images of this) and album art for Sirius/XM.

Current software version:


Last note, even though there is an icon for "apps" it takes you to a screen that shows travel link. You can not access travel link nor any apps as you expect for not being connected through the network.

Courtesy of bubbasneed's 2013 VP4 CA radio (Canadian) ...
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Here is a picture of the back of my radio.

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For brand new codes, a pattern seems to be emerging for the second digit, with “F” representing a Fiat adaptation of a Chrysler code (or a Chrysler version of a Fiat), and “6” or “A” being a Maserati adaptation. Maybe.

Numbers: Hyundais (Mexico), 10=Verna/Attitude, 16=H100, 21=Atos/i10, 52=1000 van, 55=Trazo; Lancias, 22=Delta, 23=Ypsilon; 92=???

L-cars: LX = 300/300C. LD = Charger. LC = First Challenger. LA = Future Challenger, L2=Chinese 300C, LF=?.

K-cars: KJ/KK=Liberty, KL = Cherokee. K2 = non-Toledo Cherokee, K1 = non-Toledo Liberty

JK = Jeep Wrangler, J3 = Wrangler knockdown kit (Egypt production), JL = Future Wrangler

JS = 200/Avenger; JT = formerly planned 200/Avenger replacement?

U-cars: U1 (new/export), U2 (new/export), UA (Fiat small car), UC (Chrysler midsize/JNAP), UF (Chrysler/Lancia midsize, SHAP — 200 replacement), UG (?), UJ (Jeep midsize), UK (?), UL (old code for KL), UM (?), UT (Dodge Avenger replacement, possibly dead)

JC = Journey, JD = Future Journey, J5 = Journey export, JF = Fiat Freemont, JG = ?, JZ = cancelled Chrysler Journey

WK = Grand Cherokee, W6 = Levante, WD= Durango, WL (2017+ G.C.), WS (Wagoneer? 2016+)

FF = Fiat 500, PF = Dodge Dart

VF = Van-Fiat: Ram ProMaster, PW = full size van?, VR (Daily?), VT (Doblo?)

RM = Unknown, new for 2014; ZD, 2013+ Viper

M = non-Belvedere Patriot, MA= Alfa Cherokee, MM = Toledo version of Jeep compact crossover(?)

P3 = non-Belvedere Compass, PJ = future Compass, PK = future Dodge compact

NE = Next Dakota

RT = minivans; RM = Routan minivan; RU= future minivans (2015/2016?)

Rams:
D2 = Ram 3500; D3 = future Ram 3500?; DA = Ram 4500/5500; DD = Ram 3500 chassis; DE = ? ; DJ = Ram 2500/3500; DP = Ram 4500/5500; DS = Ram;

DX: Ram (Mexico); DY: Ram (Mexico); DZ: New; DU: Future Ram; DT = Future Ram

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Originally Posted by cptwing View Post
****WARNING TO BUBBASNEED AND COOLEMOFF1******


Woe cowboys 14.25.05 is not compatable with 2015 radios do not install it on your radio, if it actuallly installs there is a very strong chance it will brick it!

The firmware versions for these radios have three groups

2013-2014-share the same firmware
2015-has its own unique firmware
2016-has its own unique firmware

Also for what it is worth, my microphones work quite well, I have had folks actually think I was on a land line. The only time I have problems with it is when the HVAC blower is running, this is a known issue and the only cure for it is to turn the hvac blower down or off off works the best.

I have 14 truck however I do have 15 8.4AN in the truck, It is running 15.06.1 and runs flawlessly. I will not be upgrading it anytime soon. 15.26.1 was a hastily thrown together update as a knee jerk response to the uconnect hacking threat. Many people have reported problems with it from minor to bricked radios.

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Useful post from Indaram about differences b/w 2014 and 2015 radios back when ...

Originally Posted by Indaram View Post
From what I understand.. The software is different for sure. The hardware was taken apart by someone and found to be identical, at least that's what was said. The 2015 software includes a model year and part check validation in the "system_check" module that will not allow you to install the 2015 software on a 2014 radio, or any radio that's not in the parts list below. The radio will function, just wont update. I have re-written the System_check module to bypass this, but unless I find a way to sign the .iso update file, ill never get to install it. Don't know this will ever happen..

I have a part# 68238619AA (From Jeep Grand Cherokee) and it wont let me update it.

Here is the system check module code..

system_check =
{
name = "SYSTEM CHECK",
installer = "system_module_check",
market_env_name = "VARIANT_MARKET",
variant_market = "NA",
product_env_name = "VARIANT_PRODUCT",
variant_product = "VP4",
model_year_env_name = "VARIANT_MODELYEAR",
model_year = "MY15",

iso_full_hash_type = "sha256"
}

And here are the part numbers listed (mine is the Bold one so i know its supported)

-- MY14.5 UF V2
ecu_part_number["68190253"] = "68190253AH" -- MY14.5 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68190259"] = "68190259AH" -- MY14.5 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68190256"] = "68190256AD" -- MY14.5 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68190260"] = "68190260AH" -- MY14.5 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68190264"] = "68190264AH" -- MY14.5 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68190263"] = "68190263AH" -- MY14.5 VP4 CAN

-- MY15 LA V2
ecu_part_number["68206389"] = "68206389AH" -- MY15 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68206388"] = "68206388AH" -- MY15 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68206391"] = "68206391AH" -- MY15 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68206392"] = "68206392AH" -- MY15 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68206393"] = "68206393AG" -- MY15 VP3 ROW
ecu_part_number["68206390"] = "68206390AG" -- MY15 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68206395"] = "68206395AH" -- MY15 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68206394"] = "68206394AH" -- MY15 VP4 CAN
ecu_part_number["68212744"] = "68212744AE" -- MY15 VP2H w/SDARS
ecu_part_number["68212745"] = "68212745AE" -- MY15 VP2H w/o SDARS
ecu_part_number["68212746"] = "68212746AE" -- MY15 VP2H ROW

-- MY15 DS/WK/KL V2
ecu_part_number["68238621"] = "68238621AG" -- MY15 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68238619"] = "68238619AG" -- MY15 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68238624"] = "68238624AG" -- MY15 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68238625"] = "68238625AG" -- MY15 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68242384"] = "68242384AF" -- MY15 VP3 BUX
ecu_part_number["68242385"] = "68242385AF" -- MY15 VP4 BUX
ecu_part_number["68242382"] = "68242382AF" -- MY15 VP3 ROW
ecu_part_number["68242383"] = "68242383AF" -- MY15 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68238627"] = "68238627AG" -- MY15 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68238626"] = "68238626AG" -- MY15 VP4 CAN

-- MY15 WD V2
ecu_part_number["68239115"] = "68239115AG" -- MY15 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68239117"] = "68239117AG" -- MY15 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68239114"] = "68239114AG" -- MY15 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68239116"] = "68239116AG" -- MY15 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68247593"] = "68247593AF" -- MY15 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68245058"] = "68245058AF" -- MY15 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68239119"] = "68239119AG" -- MY15 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68239118"] = "68239118AG" -- MY15 VP4 CAN

-- MY15 LX V2
ecu_part_number["68257282"] = "68257282AC" -- MY15 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68257281"] = "68257281AC" -- MY15 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68257284"] = "68257284AC" -- MY15 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68257285"] = "68257285AC" -- MY15 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68234426"] = "68234426AE" -- MY15 VP4 EU
ecu_part_number["68234425"] = "68234425AE" -- MY15 VP4 EU
ecu_part_number["68257286"] = "68257286AC" -- MY15 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68257283"] = "68257283AC" -- MY15 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68257288"] = "68257288AC" -- MY15 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68257287"] = "68257287AC" -- MY15 VP4 CAN

-- MY15 Asia V2
ecu_part_number["68265331"] = "68265331AC" -- MY15 VP3 China WK KL
ecu_part_number["68224021"] = "68224021AE" -- MY15 VP4 China LX
ecu_part_number["68265335"] = "68265335AC" -- MY15 VP3 Korea WK KL
ecu_part_number["68224023"] = "68224023AE" -- MY15 VP4 Korea LX
ecu_part_number["68238656"] = "68238656AE" -- MY15 VP4 Korea UF
ecu_part_number["68265336"] = "68265336AA" -- MY15 VP4 Japan WK KL
ecu_part_number["68224022"] = "68224022AC" -- MY15 VP4 Japan LX

-- MY16 RU
ecu_part_number["68232028"] = "68232028AA" -- MY16 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68232026"] = "68232026AA" -- MY16 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68232033"] = "68232033AA" -- MY16 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68232034"] = "68232034AA" -- MY16 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68232027"] = "68232027AA" -- MY16 VP4 EU
ecu_part_number["68232035"] = "68232035AA" -- MY16 VP3 ROW
ecu_part_number["68232029"] = "68232029AA" -- MY16 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68232037"] = "68232037AA" -- MY16 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68232036"] = "68232036AA" -- MY16 VP4 CAN
ecu_part_number["68234476"] = "68234476AA" -- MY16 VP4 China
ecu_part_number["68234477"] = "68234477AA" -- MY16 VP4 Korea

-- MY16 WK/KL/DS/ZD
ecu_part_number["68258671"] = "68258671AA" -- MY16 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68249986"] = "68249986AA" -- MY16 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68249987"] = "68249987AA" -- MY16 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68258673"] = "68258673AA" -- MY16 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68258359"] = "68258359AA" -- MY16 VP4 EU
ecu_part_number["68258678"] = "68258678AA" -- MY16 VP4 EU
ecu_part_number["68258358"] = "68258358AA" -- MY16 VP3 ROW
ecu_part_number["68258677"] = "68258677AA" -- MY16 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68258676"] = "68258676AA" -- MY16 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68258675"] = "68258675AA" -- MY16 VP4 CAN
ecu_part_number["68267475"] = "68267475AA" -- MY16 VP4 China
ecu_part_number["68267477"] = "68267477AA" -- MY16 VP4 Japan
ecu_part_number["68267476"] = "68267476AA" -- MY16 VP4 Korea

-- MY16 WD
ecu_part_number["68258380"] = "68258380AA" -- MY16 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68258382"] = "68258382AA" -- MY16 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68258379"] = "68258379AA" -- MY16 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68258381"] = "68258381AA" -- MY16 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68258386"] = "68258386AA" -- MY16 VP3 ROW
ecu_part_number["68258385"] = "68258385AA" -- MY16 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68258384"] = "68258384AA" -- MY16 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68258383"] = "68258383AA" -- MY16 VP4 CAN

-- MY16 LX
ecu_part_number["68267509"] = "68267509AA" -- MY16 VP4 China
ecu_part_number["68267508"] = "68267508AA" -- MY16 VP4 Japan
ecu_part_number["68267506"] = "68267506AA" -- MY16 VP4 Korea

-- MY16 UF
ecu_part_number["68267507"] = "68267507AA" -- MY16 VP4 Korea

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Old 09-23-2015, 10:49 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Ram Year: 2014
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Default My two problem radios
First radio:
Model VP4NA, Part# 05091051AI, Serial# T00BE107373627
Came with 13.*** worked fine, upgraded to 15.*** Lost Nav altogether
At navrepair, hopefully to be fixed.
Edit: Supposedly from a 2014 Ram 1500....Vin given by Schramm verifies that????

Replacement radio:
Model VP4NA, Part# 68224525AD, Serial#TooBE226371455
Came with 13.***, Nav shows (navigation activating), upgraded to 14.25.5 and same results.
Edit: Supposedly from a 2014 Ram 3500 Vin given by Schramm verifies that????

Two radios and still no navigation!!!!!!!!
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