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Thanks Tallsilver for sharing. Do you know what year the radios were supposedly from?Hopefully I can get some verified part ...


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Old 09-23-2015, 03:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Thanks Tallsilver for sharing. Do you know what year the radios were supposedly from?Hopefully I can get some verified part numbers matched to radio years and verified as RAM radios vs. Cherokee, Dart, Jeep, Challenger, etc. This seems to be a root cause of these kinds of issues imo.
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Here is the updated parts list from the MY15 - 15.17.5 firmware. Not muched changed from the last one I posted aside from them marking a few parts as discontinued.

-- MY14.5 UF V2
ecu_part_number["68190253"] = "68190253AI" -- MY14.5 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68190259"] = "68190259AI" -- MY14.5 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68190256"] = "68190256AE" -- MY14.5 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68190260"] = "68190260AI" -- MY14.5 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68190264"] = "68190264AI" -- MY14.5 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68190263"] = "68190263AI" -- MY14.5 VP4 CAN

-- MY15 LA V2
ecu_part_number["68206389"] = "68206389AI" -- MY15 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68206388"] = "68206388AI" -- MY15 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68206391"] = "68206391AI" -- MY15 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68206392"] = "68206392AI" -- MY15 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68206393"] = "68206393AH" -- MY15 VP3 ROW
ecu_part_number["68269795"] = "68269795AA" -- MY15 VP3 ROW w/o DAB
ecu_part_number["68206390"] = "68206390AH" -- MY15 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68206395"] = "68206395AI" -- MY15 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68206394"] = "68206394AI" -- MY15 VP4 CAN
ecu_part_number["68212744"] = "68212744AF" -- MY15 VP2H w/SDARS
ecu_part_number["68212745"] = "68212745AF" -- MY15 VP2H w/o SDARS
ecu_part_number["68212746"] = "68212746AF" -- MY15 VP2H ROW

-- MY15 DS/WK/KL V2
ecu_part_number["68238621"] = "68238621AH" -- MY15 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68238619"] = "68238619AH" -- MY15 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68238624"] = "68238624AH" -- MY15 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68238625"] = "68238625AH" -- MY15 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68242384"] = "68242384AG" -- MY15 VP3 BUX
ecu_part_number["68242385"] = "68242385AG" -- MY15 VP4 BUX
ecu_part_number["68242382"] = "68242382AG" -- MY15 VP3 ROW
ecu_part_number["68269796"] = "68269796AA" -- MY15 VP3 ROW w/o DAB
ecu_part_number["68242383"] = "68242383AG" -- MY15 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68238627"] = "68238627AH" -- MY15 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68238626"] = "68238626AH" -- MY15 VP4 CAN

-- MY15 WD V2
ecu_part_number["68239115"] = "68239115AH" -- MY15 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68239117"] = "68239117AH" -- MY15 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68239114"] = "68239114AH" -- MY15 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68239116"] = "68239116AH" -- MY15 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68247593"] = "68247593AG" -- MY15 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68245058"] = "68245058AG" -- MY15 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68239119"] = "68239119AH" -- MY15 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68239118"] = "68239118AH" -- MY15 VP4 CAN

-- MY15 LX V2
ecu_part_number["68257282"] = "68257282AC" -- MY15 VP3 NA (Discontinued part)
ecu_part_number["68257281"] = "68257281AC" -- MY15 VP4 NA (Discontinued part)
ecu_part_number["68257284"] = "68257284AC" -- MY15 VP3 MEX (Discontinued part)
ecu_part_number["68257285"] = "68257285AC" -- MY15 VP4 MEX (Discontinued part)
ecu_part_number["68234426"] = "68234426AF" -- MY15 VP4 EU
ecu_part_number["68234425"] = "68234425AF" -- MY15 VP4 EU
ecu_part_number["68257286"] = "68257286AC" -- MY15 VP4 ROW (Discontinued part)
ecu_part_number["68257283"] = "68257283AC" -- MY15 VP4 ROW (Discontinued part)
ecu_part_number["68257288"] = "68257288AC" -- MY15 VP3 CAN (Discontinued part)
ecu_part_number["68257287"] = "68257287AC" -- MY15 VP4 CAN (Discontinued part)

-- MY15 Asia V2
ecu_part_number["68265331"] = "68265331AC" -- MY15 VP3 China WK KL
ecu_part_number["68224021"] = "68224021AE" -- MY15 VP4 China LX
ecu_part_number["68265335"] = "68265335AC" -- MY15 VP3 Korea WK KL
ecu_part_number["68224023"] = "68224023AE" -- MY15 VP4 Korea LX
ecu_part_number["68238656"] = "68238656AE" -- MY15 VP4 Korea UF
ecu_part_number["68265336"] = "68265336AA" -- MY15 VP4 Japan WK KL
ecu_part_number["68224022"] = "68224022AD" -- MY15 VP4 Japan LX

-- MY16 RU
ecu_part_number["68232028"] = "68232028AA" -- MY16 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68232026"] = "68232026AA" -- MY16 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68232033"] = "68232033AA" -- MY16 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68232034"] = "68232034AA" -- MY16 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68232027"] = "68232027AA" -- MY16 VP4 EU
ecu_part_number["68232035"] = "68232035AA" -- MY16 VP3 ROW
ecu_part_number["68232029"] = "68232029AA" -- MY16 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68232037"] = "68232037AA" -- MY16 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68232036"] = "68232036AA" -- MY16 VP4 CAN
ecu_part_number["68234476"] = "68234476AA" -- MY16 VP4 China
ecu_part_number["68234477"] = "68234477AA" -- MY16 VP4 Korea

-- MY16 WK/KL/DS/ZD
ecu_part_number["68258671"] = "68258671AA" -- MY16 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68249986"] = "68249986AA" -- MY16 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68249987"] = "68249987AA" -- MY16 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68258673"] = "68258673AA" -- MY16 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68258359"] = "68258359AA" -- MY16 VP4 EU
ecu_part_number["68258678"] = "68258678AA" -- MY16 VP4 EU
ecu_part_number["68258358"] = "68258358AA" -- MY16 VP3 ROW
ecu_part_number["68258677"] = "68258677AA" -- MY16 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68258676"] = "68258676AA" -- MY16 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68258675"] = "68258675AA" -- MY16 VP4 CAN
ecu_part_number["68267475"] = "68267475AA" -- MY16 VP4 China
ecu_part_number["68267477"] = "68267477AA" -- MY16 VP4 Japan
ecu_part_number["68267476"] = "68267476AA" -- MY16 VP4 Korea

-- MY16 WD
ecu_part_number["68258380"] = "68258380AA" -- MY16 VP3 NA
ecu_part_number["68258382"] = "68258382AA" -- MY16 VP4 NA
ecu_part_number["68258379"] = "68258379AA" -- MY16 VP3 MEX
ecu_part_number["68258381"] = "68258381AA" -- MY16 VP4 MEX
ecu_part_number["68258386"] = "68258386AA" -- MY16 VP3 ROW
ecu_part_number["68258385"] = "68258385AA" -- MY16 VP4 ROW
ecu_part_number["68258384"] = "68258384AA" -- MY16 VP3 CAN
ecu_part_number["68258383"] = "68258383AA" -- MY16 VP4 CAN

-- MY16 LX
ecu_part_number["68267509"] = "68267509AA" -- MY16 VP4 China
ecu_part_number["68267508"] = "68267508AA" -- MY16 VP4 Japan
ecu_part_number["68267506"] = "68267506AA" -- MY16 VP4 Korea

-- MY16 UF
ecu_part_number["68267507"] = "68267507AA" -- MY16 VP4 Korea
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Old 09-25-2015, 09:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mpgrimm2 View Post
Thanks Tallsilver for sharing. Do you know what year the radios were supposedly from?Hopefully I can get some verified part numbers matched to radio years and verified as RAM radios vs. Cherokee, Dart, Jeep, Challenger, etc. This seems to be a root cause of these kinds of issues imo.
See my edited post!
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Old 09-25-2015, 09:35 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Does a dealer have the option to reload nav if the donor VIN shows it to be a RA4 AN radio??

Navrepair is still working on my first radio, but thinking about asking the service manager if he can reload the NAV without a charge.

I know Getupkid and others recommend upgrading system software, but I would be very careful of that with these donor radios! Upgrading DOES work for most, but it's very frustrating to have a beautiful screen and no NAV.

Thanks

Edit: This update from Navrepair

It's looking like a hardware issue.

Inside certain radios is a 16gb sd card that is notorious for going bad.

We're sending it to our contact who is the lead repair tech for these radios at Chrysler. He'll give us a definitive answer sometime next week.
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Originally Posted by Indaram
If you extract the swdl.iso, there is an "etc" folder. inside that folder is a file "ecupart.lua" that file contains all the part numbers for the firmware. That file exists in the MY15_15_17_5 update, not sure about any others.
So, according to the MY15 - 15.17.5 firmware sw file Indaram posted, these are a big chunk of the 8.4 VP4 NA radio P/n's:

NOTE: These may not be 100% accurate for RAM 8.4AN/VP4 NA part numbers since I am seeing discrepancies with P/N's reported by members...


(2014)
-- MY14.5 UF V2
68190260 = "68190260AI" -- MY14.5 VP4 NA

Originally Posted by Jared4.7 View Post
2014 Ram 8.4AN
68224525AB
14.25.5>15.26.1

(2015)
-- MY15 LA V2
68206388 = "68206388AI" -- MY15 VP4 NA

-- MY15 DS/WK/KL V2
68238619 = "68238619AH" -- MY15 VP4 NA
Originally Posted by Indaram
I have a part# 68238619AA (From Jeep Grand Cherokee) and it wont let me update it.


-- MY15 WD V2
68239117 = "68239117AH" -- MY15 VP4 NA

-- MY15 LX V2
68257281 = "68257281AC" -- MY15 VP4 NA (Discontinued part)

(2016)
-- MY16 RU
68232026 = "68232026AA" -- MY16 VP4 NA

-- MY16 WK/KL/DS/ZD
68249986 = "68249986AA" -- MY16 VP4 NA

-- MY16 WD
68258382 = "68258382AA" -- MY16 VP4 NA


NOTE: Some of the letters after MYxx (i.e. WK/KL/DS/ZD) look like partial VIN codes from the build sheets?

@Indaram,
Any chance you can post the same "ecupart.lua" output file from the current firmware 15.25.1 ??
I can't seem to find it.

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Has anyone downloaded the nav update? Just wondering if it could be installed on one of these failed radios if given the proper info needed to update? I know if you go to their website it ask for the nav info (which is missing) in these radios. Don't know if it would be looking for that info when it looks at the usb drive or not??????
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Tallsilver,
Ask them which memory chip are causing the error. It's either...

MICRON=15007,
or
SANDISK=15187

(found by poking around in sw files, which I don't recommend to anyone).

Originally Posted by Tallsilver View Post
Does a dealer have the option to reload nav if the donor VIN shows it to be a RA4 AN radio??

Navrepair is still working on my first radio, but thinking about asking the service manager if he can reload the NAV without a charge.

I know Getupkid and others recommend upgrading system software, but I would be very careful of that with these donor radios! Upgrading DOES work for most, but it's very frustrating to have a beautiful screen and no NAV.

Thanks

Edit: This update from Navrepair

It's looking like a hardware issue.

Inside certain radios is a 16gb sd card that is notorious for going bad.

We're sending it to our contact who is the lead repair tech for these radios at Chrysler. He'll give us a definitive answer sometime next week.
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Originally Posted by Mpgrimm2 View Post
Tallsilver,
Ask them which memory chip are causing the error. It's either...

MICRON=15007,
or
SANDISK=15187

(found by poking around in sw files, which I don't recommend to anyone).
Will do. I'm pretty sure Navrepair will get the answer. They have been very responsive to me and the problem.
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Anyone willing to PM me the VIN they use for their 8.4AN/VP4 NA radio updates?

I need a VIN for each year so that I can download the files regularly and I also want to see if the current files are the same for each year or not (MD5 checksum's equal??).

2013
2014
2015


I won't post any shared VIN's. Thanks in advance.

EDIT:
Just came across an ebay add from OEMautoparts.com (way overpriced) but they list 3 compatible 8.4AN/VP4 NA part numbers for 2013-2015 rams...

68238619AF
68238619AG
68238619AH (in the firmware update file list)

Looks like 2015 Ram radio p/n's per Indaram's sw update file.
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The chip in my radio is Sandisk. I'll get the vin Monday morning.
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