BlackOut Edition 13'+ Projector UpGrade

0212353 · Oct 2, 2014

don't you mean a bad girl? :********:

BlackRamHemi · Oct 2, 2014

0212353 said:
Well........I finally ordered parts to make a few tail connectors.

Now.......for all of those who just read that......no, they won't be available tomorrow. LOL It will be a bit before I get the parts in, made and tested. Then........I'll have a couple of hand made ones, but will then move to get a few hundred made in bulk

Sounds like a Plan! :favorites13:

I will eventually get a set of medium (level 2) tinted Sport LED's on the back,
Then do the same before/after daytime and night output comparison pics like I did for the heads.

I have been warned several times about my GTS tinted covers front and rear,
so dark the light was barely visible and definitely not legal, but thankfully never ticketed for them.

from an esthetic point of view, they were hideous sticking out a 1/2" all around

back to stock as it sits right now

MGRAM · Oct 2, 2014

Nice medium shade would look really good

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BlackRamHemi · Oct 2, 2014

Do the OEM LED tails have LED's for reverse bulbs too?
and if not, is there an LED replacement bulb?

Now that I've got used to having real back up lights again I'm spoiled,
but hate the look of tinted tails with clear reverse patch cut-out. :puke:

0212353 · Oct 3, 2014

they aren't LED in there. but.......brigher than the 09-12...

Hemi_Express2013 · Oct 13, 2014

JJ, do you have a questimate of how long before you have the LED tails worked out? Make a nice christmas gift to me!

0212353 · Oct 19, 2014

hopefully before christmas! Just insanely busy!

Hemi_Express2013 · Oct 20, 2014

Awesome, busy is good=money. No rush but I'm in. AMP Ram hood with the lights is going to be killer.

BlackRamHemi · Oct 23, 2014

Any idea what the price will be on the LED TYC tails?

I may have found some OEM's locally, new 14' take offs $300 OBO

The guy must have bought a set of Recon's or something
probably the fugly bling'd out ones :crazy:

Should I snap these up or hold out until Christmas?

May be worth a try offering him $250 to see if he takes it I guess...

Then I just need a resistor/adapter

dkmesa · Oct 23, 2014

i like the $250 offer idea. can't go wrong with the OEM LEDs.

BlackRamHemi · Oct 23, 2014

Offer sent, and excepted by text just now, :favorites13:

Going to see them right after work! Score!!!!

Hemi450hp · Oct 23, 2014

BlackRamHemi said:
Any idea what the price will be on the LED TYC tails?

I may have found some OEM's locally, new 14' take offs $300 OBO

See if he can send you a pic of the back of the tails. I also have a new set of 2014 OEM LED Sport tails here, but the connector plug on the back is different than the 2013 model LED tails.

Jeremy, have you had a chance to compare your tails to the pics I sent you of mine? Still curious if 1 adapter will work or if you have to produce 2 different adapters for the different year tails.

BlackRamHemi · Oct 23, 2014

Well I had to drive to the other side of the city to have a look,
I was a little disappointed to find several scuff marks on both lights.
No major scratches, the owner was not the truck owner, just a kid that worked at a Dodge dealership.

But no biggie since I planned on tint, wet sand, clear and polish anyway.
However the seller didn't need to know that so I acted like I was totally pissed and low balled him for another $50 off. Waived 4 new $50 bills and he took it without question.

$200 Done Deal!

and I already dropped them off at my painters garage,
since he lives close by just a few blocks away.

Thanks Brad!

Sorry, forgot to take a pic of the back/connector (Doh!)

So once I sell my stock lamps for $100
I'll only be out a $100 on the upgrade.

Pretty happy about that,
these don't show up very often because trucks that didn't come with them
cant run them without hard wiring them in with resistors.

User · Oct 23, 2014

Since the foglights don't have projectors, has anyone tried blacking them out with tint and running HIDs? That would look pretty cool to me on a extreme murdered vehicle, almost like you don't have fogs installed until you turn them on.

Not to sure at what point HIDs are not bright enough to pierce the tint enough to still make them functional, yet black at the same time.

Ideas?

BlackRamHemi · Oct 23, 2014

Tint on heads or fogs would kill the output,

posted this comparison on the first post

Here's my old stock quad/ stock fogs on a wall about 15' away

Same shot with my old GTS smoked overs on the heads

without fogs

halogen quad with no covers

halogen quad with covers

You can get old style horizontal TYC fogs custom retro fitted with a morimoto projector
and a painted reflector bowl...but they would run about $600

http://shop.retroshop.us/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=4G.FOG.RETRO

4th Gen Fogs - Gatling 2.0 Shrouds - Painted Gloss Black - CCFLs

BlackRamHemi · Oct 24, 2014

Hemi450hp said:
See if he can send you a pic of the back of the tails. I also have a new set of 2014 OEM LED Sport tails here, but the connector plug on the back is different than the 2013 model LED tails.

Jeremy, have you had a chance to compare your tails to the pics I sent you of mine? Still curious if 1 adapter will work or if you have to produce 2 different adapters for the different year tails.

That's odd, I went to RockAuto to see if I could round up pigtails/connectors
(no luck so I'll try the dealers or the local pick your part)

But while I was into the RA catalogue I did notice they had TYC LED tails
but the part number listed the same both 13' and 14' model years.

BlackRamHemi · Oct 24, 2014

Would it be a safe guess that the LED tails would require the same load resistor as the head signals? 6 ohm?

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/accessories/morimoto-hd-load-resistors.html#.VEpqE8mX0mV

BlackRamHemi · Oct 24, 2014

Good News from Arth on the "other board"

http://moparonlineparts.com/docs/2013%20Tails%20into%204th%20Gen%20Ram%20-%20Guide.pdf

LED Tail Pigtail Wiring Harness
–Available from Mopar Online Parts.

P/N 5013984AA – QTY 2
------------------------------------------
LED Load Resistors (Various Suppliers).

50W6OHM Resistors – QTY 2
-----------------------------------------

EV6 Male Connectors – Available from InjectorRX (www.injectorrx.com).

Bosch EV6 Male Connector – QTY 2
---------------------------------------------

H13/9008 Male Pigtails – Available from Autolumination (www.autolumination.com).

Male Pigtail – QTY 2
--------------------------------------------

Approximately 2’ of 16ga insulated stranded automotive wire.

================================

OPTIONAL PARTS
The following parts are optional, and not required.
You may choose to use these depending on your
preference.

LED Tail Pigtail Wiring Harness (Junkyard)

This harness is the same harness that was used on the ’98-’03 Durango, ’04-’09
Durango, ’96-’00 Caravan/Voyager, and potentially others. Be sure to get as much
wiring as you can from the donor vehicle – at least 6 inches or more.

Hemi450hp · Oct 24, 2014

BlackRamHemi said:
That's odd, I went to RockAuto to see if I could round up pigtails/connectors
(no luck so I'll try the dealers or the local pick your part)

But while I was into the RA catalogue I did notice they had TYC LED tails
but the part number listed the same both 13' and 14' model years.

Post a pic of the back of your new tails when you get a chance. On my 2014 tails, the connector pin is molded into the lamp, so you cannot hardwire them without buying a pigtail (not available through Dodge according to our parts guy).

On the 2013 tails, it was easy to just access the wires inside, and hardwire it yourself without needing a pigtail. The 2013 lights also have a 6 pin connector where mine are only a 4 pin.

BlackRamHemi · Oct 24, 2014

I did look at them briefly, and yes its a recessed molded port on the lamp.

I just ran to the Dodge dealer next door to my office
The pigtail is part# 5013984AA he even had some in stock to show me

But they wanted $60 ea, :crazy:

RockAuto has them (Dorman) for $30 So I might just order them from them instead

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=5667045

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