Accel Ignition Coils?

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I have the Professional Products coils on my truck. They are among the cheapest and I prefer the orange, but they really don't make much of a difference. Maybe it's my fault for buying the cheap ones though.
 

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I would not expect any difference with a stock engine or on an engine where the stock coils can keep up to the demand. I'd be interested to see what the difference would be with an engine that typically needs to close the gap like on a supercharged or nitrous application where you'd need a hotter coil to spark over a larger gap without blowing the spark out.

If you're still fighting a high rpm miss,the extra 5% coil output of the SOS coils over the stock coils,might be just enough to help your miss Kurtis.I think you should be the guinea pig to test them,if anybodies truck is going to need a touch hotter spark it's yours,lol
 

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I still have to actually run the truck with the 15+ coils before I do anything new.


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I’m still running the stock coils on my truck and have yet to have any issues, buddies truck is the same way. I don’t see any benefit to upgrading to aftermarket coils especially if you don’t have extensive upgrades.
 

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I’m still running the stock coils on my truck and have yet to have any issues, buddies truck is the same way. I don’t see any benefit to upgrading to aftermarket coils especially if you don’t have extensive upgrades.

Dan,you might say Kurtis has a few extensive upgrades,at 18psi of boost,lol.If he ever gets it sorted out transmission wise,he should techinically blow the rest of us into the weeds:favorites13:
 

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I’m still running the stock coils on my truck and have yet to have any issues, buddies truck is the same way. I don’t see any benefit to upgrading to aftermarket coils especially if you don’t have extensive upgrades.

I had no issues on stock coils when I was running up to 8psi. When I went to 12psi I started having the high rpm misfire which continued through with the bigger blower at 17psi. I just haven't been able to put any miles on the setup with the new coils and 4 step colder plugs gapped to .030".
 

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Dan,you might say Kurtis has a few extensive upgrades,at 18psi of boost,lol.If he ever gets it sorted out transmission wise,he should techinically blow the rest of us into the weeds:favorites13:

Well he’s got 11psi more than me, my only hope of winning would be he breaks something lol.
 

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I had no issues on stock coils when I was running up to 8psi. When I went to 12psi I started having the high rpm misfire which continued through with the bigger blower at 17psi. I just haven't been able to put any miles on the setup with the new coils and 4 step colder plugs gapped to .030".

Off topic comment. I have a customer who has a 08 1500 with just your basic bolt on parts,intake, shorty headers,canned tune. The one day he wanted me to install MSD coils and 2 step colder plugs because he figured the factory plugs fouled up to quick and somewhere on the Internet he heard he needed colder plugs for his truck. Needless to say I couldn’t talk him out of it, oh well lol. He swears the coils made a noticeable difference but I’m sure it was the placebo effect, I didn’t notice anything.
 

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Off topic comment. I have a customer who has a 08 1500 with just your basic bolt on parts,intake, shorty headers,canned tune. The one day he wanted me to install MSD coils and 2 step colder plugs because he figured the factory plugs fouled up to quick and somewhere on the Internet he heard he needed colder plugs for his truck. Needless to say I couldn’t talk him out of it, oh well lol. He swears the coils made a noticeable difference but I’m sure it was the placebo effect, I didn’t notice anything.

I'd be more inclined to believe that the new plugs and replacement of old coils made a bigger difference than the colder plugs and MSD coils, plus there's the placebo effect to consider. MSD coils are nothing more than rebranded and painted oem coils with a higher failure rate than oem coils. The colder plugs will do nothing except foul quicker because they can't burn off the carbon that builds up from partially burnt/unburnt fuel.

I'm sure you know this but for others possibly reading this, colder plugs are required for performance applications that generate higher cylinder temps which would cause pre-ignition while running normal heat range plugs. Just because a higher performance engine runs colder plugs doesn't mean your stock compression and basic bolt-on engine will make more power with colder plugs. Plugs need to be specific to the engine requirements, not just because you read it on the web somewhere.
 

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I'd be more inclined to believe that the new plugs and replacement of old coils made a bigger difference than the colder plugs and MSD coils, plus there's the placebo effect to consider. MSD coils are nothing more than rebranded and painted oem coils with a higher failure rate than oem coils. The colder plugs will do nothing except foul quicker because they can't burn off the carbon that builds up from partially burnt/unburnt fuel.

I'm sure you know this but for others possibly reading this, colder plugs are required for performance applications that generate higher cylinder temps which would cause pre-ignition while running normal heat range plugs. Just because a higher performance engine runs colder plugs doesn't mean your stock compression and basic bolt-on engine will make more power with colder plugs. Plugs need to be specific to the engine requirements, not just because you read it on the web somewhere.

Oh I tried to tell him that lol. Funny thing was the plugs I took out looked damn near brand new, says he changes them every 30,000km. This guy just likes to spend money on his truck though, which is ok by me cause it puts money in my pocket.
 

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So has anyone put the 15+coils and iridium plugs in an older 4th gen? My plugs are due for a change, and from the sound of it, I'd rather do this once and forget it.
 

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That's an 06 car,as Kurtis stated the coils in the trucks switched in 13 when they went to the newer style Irridium plugs.The Irridium plugs take more voltage to fire then the old copper style plugs,and are supposed to last the theoretical 100,000 miles.Stick with the OEM coils for a 13+ they are as good,or better then the aftermarket coils.

Nateinva has a 2011. Might be worth it for him.
 

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My February built 2013 had copper plugs (and supposedly the older/weaker coils).
Just sayin’ ...
 

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I have a late model 2013 with 8 speed, built may 2014. I just changed the plugs out while the dealer was doing some warranty work and they threw them in for $100. I have the 30000 mike copper plugs. I run pretty much all the bolt on mods as well as headers and a hemifever 93 tune. I would like to upgrade the coil packs and plugs to the newer style next time. What does everyone recommend? I would like to go with the best. I do like the mds red coil packs for color since I have added some red into the bay, but I would like to get the best coils on market for the truck. I like the sultans my question is are there any others? What do you recommend.


Anyone familiar with the Granatelli coil packs...they make 2 types 65000 and 80000.
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/catalog/Dodge_Coil_Packs-550-1.html
 
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@Hipps2000 The only coils I would recommend would be the SoS or Granatelli coils, all the others are re-branded oem coils with a different colour case. The Granatelli coils have been discussed on the car side for while and they do offer some benefit with higher hp builds but you really need to do some other modifications to take full advantage of them like upgrading the wiring to one size larger gauge if you're thinking about running the 80000V coils to handle the higher heat generation. They also have a much shorter lifespan compared to stock coils which is why they typically only get used on high hp drag cars, also, a $800 price tag hurts compared to sticking with a stock set of coils that have been proven to handle the needs up to 1400hp on properly gapped plugs.
 

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@Hipps2000 The only coils I would recommend would be the SoS or Granatelli coils, all the others are re-branded oem coils with a different colour case. The Granatelli coils have been discussed on the car side for while and they do offer some benefit with higher hp builds but you really need to do some other modifications to take full advantage of them like upgrading the wiring to one size larger gauge if you're thinking about running the 80000V coils to handle the higher heat generation. They also have a much shorter lifespan compared to stock coils which is why they typically only get used on high hp drag cars, also, a $800 price tag hurts compared to sticking with a stock set of coils that have been proven to handle the needs up to 1400hp on properly gapped plugs.

Thank you, I was looking into the 65000 volt set if I were to change. They state they are rated for stock application as well as modded. I can get a set for $475. I am just beginning to look into and research a bit because I would like to upgrade as I have the older copper 30000 mile plugs as well as coils. I plan on keeping the truck and down road upgrading the heads, cam, and intake. Just wanted to know what would be an upgrade from stock and maybe cheaper than the oem higher rated coils that are on the newer motors.
 
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