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Getting confused on just how much weight I can tow with my 2500 Ram. Dodge Ram Spec's say 12760 lbs. Does that mean I can haul something that is 10,500 dry weight? How much weight do you account for other than the actual dry weight of the camper?
 

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First off, don't use dry weight for camper. Use gross weight, which includes propane, water, material in holding tanks, gear, etc. Also look at payload, which includes hitch weight. I don't know much about 2500 capabilities, other than it's considerably more than my 1500.
 

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First off, don't use dry weight for camper. Use gross weight, which includes propane, water, material in holding tanks, gear, etc. Also look at payload, which includes hitch weight. I don't know much about 2500 capabilities, other than it's considerably more than my 1500.
100% correct, go by gvwr so you have some safety margin
 

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Getting confused on just how much weight I can tow with my 2500 Ram. Dodge Ram Spec's say 12760 lbs. Does that mean I can haul something that is 10,500 dry weight? How much weight do you account for other than the actual dry weight of the camper?


You must have a 3.73 geared ram like mine. I'd stay under 10k gvwr if I were you. Good luck
 

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https://www.tfltruck.com/2017/03/20...rehensive-guide-maximum-towing-payload-specs/

This will give you more than enough information to make an informed decision.

Towing basics are:

You need to know your payload
You need to know your tongue weight
You need to know your tow rating
You need to know your trailer's gross weight rating
You need to know your gross combined vehicle weight rating

Your tongue weight directly goes TOWARDS your truck's payload. So say 2000 lb payload - 1000 lb tongue weight = residual payload remaining (1000lb left for in the truck, which is fuel, passengers, and additional cargo).

So, if you know you are OK on payload. And you know your trailer isn't outside your vehicle's tow rating, how do you know if you are OK otherwise?

Your vehicle's Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating, which is the weight of the truck and weight of the trailer combined.

Figurative number; let's say your truck's GCWR is 20,000 lbs. Your truck weighs 7000lbs. This now means you have 13,000lbs of weight left in your total "cap" (legally).

So let's say 1000lbs for the family, fuel, and cargo in the truck. So technically, you should be good for a 12,000lb trailer. But be careful here... your tongue weight might now go over on your payload!

There are tons of other aspects you can use to determine the overloading of your truck, which are in that article link.

I hope this helps, I know it was kinda gritty and off the cuff.

edit: original link actually kinda sucked, replaced with a different one
 
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Don’t forget to include the weight of the hitch itself as part of the payload. The B&W 5th wheel hitch weighs just over 200 pounds so it matters.
 

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I find it depends on what your pulling. My 7000 lb travel trailer is worse to pull than my 14000 lb excavator, just alot more billboard going down the road to catch wind.
 

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I don't buy into the whole "go by trailer GVWR" advice. A trailer's GVWR is what a trailer could hold not necessarily what you will load it to (or past). The difference between dry weight and GVWR is often called the cargo carrying capacity of the trailer or the CCC. I've seen the same size trailers with less than 1,000# of CCC and up to 5000# of CCC.

While a trailer's GVWR can be a good guide there is often more to the story than just looking at that number.

You're off to a great start asking the questions. There's a ton of info here and on RV message boards. The time you put in learning now on the front end will pay you back huge in money saved changing equipment and safety for you and those around you.
 

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Better to go by the gvwr then the dry weight though as a general guide. Folks quote such and such dry weight so I'm good to go.....and that's where the trouble starts.

I don't disagree with what you posted, but for folks who may not be as familiar with this stuff, better to be conservative and have extra margin, especially if someone is new to camping and does not have much towing experience. Just my thoughts
 

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Better to go by the gvwr then the dry weight though as a general guide. Folks quote such and such dry weight so I'm good to go.....and that's where the trouble starts.

I don't disagree with what you posted, but for folks who may not be as familiar with this stuff, better to be conservative and have extra margin, especially if someone is new to camping and does not have much towing experience. Just my thoughts

Agreed..... just asking the questions puts them far ahead of 95% of folks :D:D
 

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You're off to a great start asking the questions. There's a ton of info here and on RV message boards. The time you put in learning now on the front end will pay you back huge in money saved changing equipment and safety for you and those around you.
^^^Great advice!

And with that goes the comfort and peace-of-mind knowing you've done things correctly when towing a couple of tons of camper behind you down a busy highway - it's hard to quantify the value in that - definitely worth the time, effort, and money.
 

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^^^Great advice!

And with that goes the comfort and peace-of-mind knowing you've done things correctly when towing a couple of tons of camper behind you down a busy highway - it's hard to quantify the value in that - definitely worth the time, effort, and money.


Exactly. Towing an rv is serious business and should be taken as such. Newbies many times don't understand the weights they are pulling and how that affects braking distances and emergency maneuvers.

I see it all the time. Way overloaded, huge rear end sag suburbsns and tahoes towing long, heavy TTs blowing by me doing 70+mph. Then a few miles later I pass them on the side of the road with blown outm overheated, (most st rated trailer tires are speed limited to 65mph, over speed them for long enough and they go bang) tires or worse, rolled over. Seen it many times. Take your time, it's not a race and do everything you can to get there safe. Also try not to curb your tt tires, that also weakens the sidewall. Good luck
 

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100% correct, go by gvwr so you have some safety margin
Stop telling people bad information.
If someone going to tow a trailer, they need to know the actual weight they are towing. If someone isn't going to take the time determine what they have weight wise, they have no business pulling it down the road. Exceeding the trailer's GVWR is just as, if not more dangerous than overloaded tow vehicle (but that entirely different conversation).
Like others have stated GVWR is the total capacity of trailer including the trailer itself.
 

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Cat scales are all up and down our interstates anymore. Just weighed my new TT two weeks ago and it was only $11.00 You can also go to your nearest gravel yard and they will usually weigh you for less than that.
 

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Stop telling people bad information.
If someone going to tow a trailer, they need to know the actual weight they are towing. If someone isn't going to take the time determine what they have weight wise, they have no business pulling it down the road. Exceeding the trailer's GVWR is just as, if not more dangerous than overloaded tow vehicle (but that entirely different conversation).
Like others have stated GVWR is the total capacity of trailer including
 
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