Diesel Fuel Additives

Many say are not necessary.
That is Not the purpose of my question.
I counted 1,251 items in 5min that I myself considered not necessary & all these items were much more expensive then Diesel Fuel Additives.

I only ask if you use any type of Diesel Fuel Additives?
What do You use & @ what ratio.

Now! If you don’t use Fuel Additives? There is No Reason to even post.
Even though most do just to advance their post count.
I will bet we will see those very fast.

But for those who do: Please Share!

I will be using Stanadyne Lubricity 8oz per 30gal.
Every other tank a 14oz of PS Diesel Kleen or 8oz Stanadyne Performance per 30gal.

During the winter months: Before every artic blast or ice storm I will add 8oz of Stanadyne 1000.

SyN said:

Many say are not necessary.
That is Not the purpose of my question.
I counted 1,251 items in 5min that I myself considered not necessary & all these items were much more expensive then Diesel Fuel Additives.

I only ask if you use any type of Diesel Fuel Additives?
What do You use & @ what ratio.

Now! If you don’t use Fuel Additives? There is No Reason to even post.
Even though most do just to advance their post count.
I will bet we will see those very fast.

But for those who do: Please Share!

I will be using Stanadyne Lubricity 8oz per 30gal.
Every other tank a 14oz of PS Diesel Kleen or 8oz Stanadyne Performance per 30gal.

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Personally I have 2 diesels, 2016 jeep grand cherokee wife's daily driver and my 2018 Ctd I'm using Hotshots products per the label. Have been doing it since we purchased the jeep in 2016, dealership asked what we do because it still acts like it's brand new.

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I'm not an additive junkie. I used to be in my younger years and I know you didn't want to go down that road, but there are a number of things besides additives I'm sure you're also considering too. First is lubrication: Stick to a good quality synthetic oil first and foremost to keep the oil ways clean in the engine and turbo lines clean (non Ram Diesel). I use Shell Rotella T6 in my Jetta for like 10 years, seems to have worked really well, it's knocking on the door of 300k mi and looks really clean under the valve cover which I had off not that long ago for a cam inspection. And the nice thing is it goes on sale (with rebate) for $14.95/gal fairly often ...although I've been using it regardless of that. I'm sure other top (proven) name brands would also work fine.

The next thing is the fuel path: I used to use Power Service Cetane boost/cleaner and anti-gel when I knew it was supposed to get extremely cold outside (like -15 and below) to keep the fuel from separating. I guess I still use it in my skid loader too. Never had any problems so I guess either it worked or the fuel was good enough. But since fuel stations started selling higher grade (low temp) diesel fuel, I just use that now but only during cold stretches. Other than that, I stick to a good quality fuel, name brand fuel that has all the right additives already. Follow a good general maintenance schedule including draining water out of the fuel filter (if possible) ..and replacing it on schedule. Clean fuel is so important. Use a lot of care when changing the fuel filter which is a way impurities could get introduced into the system (like having some flunkie changing the filter and not making sure hoses/lines are VERY clean beforehand). All the additives in the world can't cure a bad filter change. Never run er out of diesel (well, you know THAT!!)

Next is the air path: I always use Napa Gold (Wix) high quality air filters, or OEM. Since they last so long, why go cheap?? If you keep it long enough, check to see if there's a hidden micro-screen snow filter inside the intake path. Does Dodge Ram have one of these (someone??). Some diesels use them and the screen can be extremely fine. After years, they can become partially clogged with insect webs, broken wings and parts, plant parts and so on which can restrict intake airflow. I've personally cleaned a few out that made my eyes go open.

In addition, and I believe more important to additives: Diesels need to stretch their legs once in a while. One big thing any owner should do is work the engine from time to time (daily) especially if you tend to run highway commuting miles a lot ...is to run up the turbo and keep the turbo vane sliders free of debris and corrosion which can ultimately inhibit their action (and lead to binding issues where the turbo won't be able to open up its airway enough). So goose it now and then. Might not be as big of an issue if you live in a drier climate as in the north.

What's your operational patterns look like: Highway miles?? Lots of trailer towing?? Short trips (engine doesn't warm up)?? Daily commuter?? Work truck going from job site to job site every day? Lots of idling during the day?? Slogging up dusty 4x4 logging roads every day?? How many miles/yr?? Your info says "Tornado Alley" so I suspect you don't get into extremely cold conditions??

All of those different conditions are going to impact your engine differently. Sorry I didn't give a lot of additives suggestions, I tried to point out a couple non-obvious items an owner could do to ensure good operation in 'addition' to ..or in lieu of additives to help ensure good operation.

Cummins Endorses Two Fuel Additives - TopNews - Fuel Smarts - TopNews - TruckingInfo.com

I know Cummins did this for the same reason as with Valvoline—->$$$$

Interesting read though.

I've been using the PS Diesel Kleen on my last three trucks (current 5.9CR is almost to 300K miles). I have read lots of studies on which fuel supplement is the best but it seems to always test good enough and it's available everywhere. I add it at the recommended ratio ever tank. Gray bottle in the summer and white bottle in the winter.

As an additive dealer I have continued to carry PRI and Archoil products because my customers and I experience benefits from both for specific applications.

PRI-D and PRI-G have proven to be the best fuel stabilizers. I use them in my boat, my Ford F350 6.0 diesel and all my yard machines. All sit for long periods without use and I have never had a fuel problem when using PRI. My boat sat for 5 yes with a full 118 gallons of treated gas. All the experts said get rid of that old gas, "it will destroy your outboard motor". PRI said, "run it, it will be good". PRI was right, all the experts were wrong, including Evinrude the motor's manufacturer, the motor ran as if the fuel was new.

Archoil AR9100 oil additive has over and over again cured or prevented stiction in Ford's 6.0 & 7.3 diesels. Their AR6200 fuel additive is in demand by many customers. While I have not experienced any increased mileage with it, others claim it has increased theirs. I use it to keep the fuel system clean, especially the injectors

There was a forum user who tested many products including fuel additives. He concluded there were many that did nothing but discovered that Hotshot's EDP worked and was the best. I was so impressed with his study I began using the EDP, I now use a combination of AR6200 and EDP in my daily driver. Again, I haven't noticed any mileage increase but use it for preventative maintenance such as keeping the injectors clean, increased lubricity, cetane, etc. I also use AR9100 each oil change as a preventative maintenance.

I can also offer as many or more comments where the owners have never and won't use an additive, have thousands of miles and no problems.

All that said, it's an individual thing. "Whatever floats your boat"

Thanks Fellas for the replies.
I have chatted with more then a handful of 6.7L owners whom really like the Hot Shot Secret brand of diesel Additives.

My Salesman from Fowler Dodge even recommended the 2 products.
Amazon has both flavors for decent $$$.

I will be using 3oz of EDT w/every fill up & 12oz Extreme clean/boost once a month.

During the summer months when most of our towing is done (Family 5th Wheel)!
I will add before every adventure a bottle of Schaeffers SoyShield!

During these long periods of snow/icy months I will keep a 16oz bottle of HSS Winter Anti-Gel in the garage cabinet.

I will report back any issues I encounter! Though I don’t expect any.

Please keep adding to the thread if you have either positive or negative comments.

Never heard any negative reviews of HSS and they are starting to become more common at larger truck stops so they should be easy to get even if you don't order ahead of time.

Jeepwalker:
1. Very little idle time.

2. I try to avoid a lot of stop & go driving (maybe 1/4) of my OCI will be stop & go.

3. My normal OCIs will consist of mostly highway/interstate driving (65 - 85 mph)

4. I normally will go out of my way just to get the engine temp & oil temp up over operating temp for a period of time. (To cook/evaporate any carbon or moisture out.

5. Serious Towing will only be done during the summer months.

6. She will be garage kept her whole life (never below 40°F). Temps local do get into the teens. Some times into the -10 if you factor in the windchill.

7. Nothing on this rig will be neglected or ignored or abused.

She will be given many opportunities to (Stretch Her Legs) I make a point of that. But there will be NO uncivilized WOT moments.
Thing is I have a Company pickup so She will spend most of her life in the garage.

We are now in the process of running the #’s on a weight for our new 5th wheel that She will be comfortable towing.
Also researching into a set of Firestone Air Bags for the rearend.

My only main concern now is driving Her often enough to keep fresh DEF in the tank.
That is the last issue I care to deal with.

“One thing of debating about Diesel Additives (with me) being a waste of $$$ is Extremely Petty due to She will keep a Full-3/4 or 1/2 tank of full diesel for a month.
I spent $26 on my Additives last month & still have 1/2 of it left.
Most people spend that on ***** / cigarettes / Drugs everyday! So my Additive fetish is really a Foolish Argument!”




Summer Months:
1oz Hot Shot Secret -EDT- & 8oz Stanadyne -Performance- average cost per 12oz bottle is $4.50 each month.

Winter Months:
If it’s in the teens or -teens?——> 4oz of HSS -Winter Anti-Gel- & 8oz Stanadyne -Performance-.

Every 6 months I will add 16oz HSS -Extreme Diesel-

Remember: A 31gal tank of fuel might last me a month or longer.
So the expense of the additives is not very much over a period of time.
I figure total cost per year is about the same as 1 oil change.

I also have access to FPPF (Total Power), which has nothing but stellar reviews to which I will rotate with the HSS every so often.

Difference between Regular Diesel & Premium Diesel!

http://www.cenex.com/about/cenex-in...e/general-interest/standard-vs-premium-diesel

http://www.cvacoop.com/blog/premium...should-know-about-diesel-fuel-before-you-buy/

https://www.agweb.com/mobile/article/the-impact-of-premium-diesel-fuel-naa-sponsored-content/

Wish I had this option @ the local pumps.

Or Maybe Not!

https://www.team-bhp.com/tech-stuff/why-you-should-avoid-using-premium-diesel

My favorite site for diesel information:

http://www.oilem.com/premium-diesel-versus-standard-diesel-fuel-2/

I used to use Stanadyne but switched to Archiol AR6200 a few years back after read some reviews from some guys on another forum. I use it every tank in the winter months. It really helps smooth out idle when running winter blend diesel. And every other tank or so in the summer unless towing.

Greg
2012 | RAM 2500 | CCSB | Custom tuned by Double R Diesel
2016 | Heartland Pioneer | DS310

After really doing a lot of reading & chatting with many members as well as with other fellow 5th wheel campers.

I really like the so called results of these.
Also they are not extremely expensive if you shop around.

1. Schaeffers SoyShield & Neutra
2. Hot Shots Secret -EDT- & Diesel Extreme

I was given 4 gallons of Stanadyne Performance so it will be used at a ratio of 8oz every 1/2 tank fill up. (Until Gone)
Then used as some might call a carrier Additive with 2-4oz of one of the Additives listed above with it.

Twice a year run a full tank w/Bio Power!
http://renewablelube.com/store/inde...oduct_id=54&search=Bio+power&description=true

SyN said:

Many say are not necessary.
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New info, Cummins now recommends use of two, lubricity additive and cetane boost. See other link.

Need to throw this in as well there are 3 RL diesel fuel additives.

At some point & time & mileage either of these will be used.
It never hurts for a change.
Mainly before hooking up the 5th wheel!

Mostly will probably be the Diesel Fuel Catalyst.

Burla said:

New info, Cummins now recommends use of two, lubricity additive and cetane boost. See other link.

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Interesting that ******'s never recommended additives until they bought the Power Service Company. Smart acquisition as Diesel Kleene is a good product.

Nice fact I did not know. I know some manu's recommend additives and some don't. The classic example is Ford does recommend them and Chevy or GM doesn't. I know we hired two of the best mechanics money could get to service our fleet. They were very worried about what the low sulfur was going to do to our fleet. I left the job before we could really tell, but I know they had cases of diesel treatments they used to use to compensate. I think they only downside would be the money of the additives, but if you actually believe in the science behind the additive, easy to justify the purchase. I'm pretty sold on PEA for my gas engine, don't know if it extends the life of my engine, I'm pretty sure it cleans if well, and I am out 100 bucks for a few years supply of it. It was easy for me to spend that after what I have seen with these hemi's, to each his own. That was interesting, makes you wonder if it was increasing business or do they really believe in the science. I wonder WHY they bought them. Maybe they had issues and wanted the fix in their pocket, who knows?

John Jensen said:

Interesting that ******'s never recommended additives until they bought the Power Service Company. Smart acquisition as Diesel Kleene is a good product.

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I may have misspoken. This morning I read that Cummins bought Power Service and repeated same here. Then I decided I should verify same. I have not been able to validate or vet this in any form. I apologize for the "fake news".

What I read was apparently someone's assumption.

No Worries Mr Jensen.
Like I stated some where within these walls.

I have a diesel fuel additive addiction you might say...
Mind you though it will defiantly not break me nor the bank account.

Due to the fact I Do Not and Will Not: Spend hundreds or thousands on programmers nor $3K-4$K on suspension kits nor thousands on {Large/Wide} wheels and tires.
Which I {Myself} actually find not really necessary.
I will have much more $$ to spend on my very small & inexpensive addiction.

Its all good!

I would never dream of mentioning another subject within these very same walls that I prefer and run N2 in my tires opposed to regular air compressor air.
Lord Knows what type of $hit Storm that would brew up.

Did want to report: So far after 1K miles and 4 fill ups there has been No reportable issues due to the fuel additives I have added.

Just another tidbit:
Summer Time- $20-$30
Will be adding 8oz Stanadyne (performance) year round along with either of these.
1. 4oz Schaeffers SoyShield
2. 4oz Hot Shots Secret -EDT-
3. 4oz FPPF Fuel Power
Depending on price & sales. 12oz total @ each fill up of 15 gallons or more.

(Every 6 months) 24oz Schaeffers Neutra with 30 gallons of fuel or 16oz HSS -Diesel Extreme-
$17 to $20 depends on Amazon prices.

Winter Months- $16-$18
8oz Stanadyne (performance) with either of these 2.
1. 4oz Hot Shots Secret Anti-gel
2. 4oz FPPF Total Power
Depending on price & sales.

64oz of Stanadyne will easily last me all year.
Sounds very confusing & complicated but with everything in individual measuring containers it’s actually very fast & easy and mess free.

A friend gave me a bottle of Amsoil Cold Flow, which I used this winter to prevent gelling/wax buildup. While we had some really cold and extended (<10 F) temperatures, I don't know if the additive really helped. I just ordered a case for next year.

If I use Opti-Lube XPD, how often should I use it?