anyone heard of or use X2industries control arms?

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i don't know if those would be "street legal" even tho they are sometimes only thing available. ebay or used is the only way to you will likely come across oem ones. i got a set sitting in my shed for my 81 whenever i feel like changing those out.
 
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thanks for the reply. when you mean "street legal" do you mean from a daily use safety stand point or from a manufacturer's liability stand point or ? I have a frame off 65 el camino restore with a UMI suspension that has tubular arms, no issues with those. this is my first real Mopar complete restore so I don't know a whole lot about it. Definitely minimal aftermarket support on d100s. just trying to learn so any wisdom you have to share is VERY appreciated.

I know what you mean btw on spare parts. I'm doing a 72 frame off D100 stepside restore. I have a 93 d150, 78 d100 and 73 d100 sitting in my pasture as parts trucks. got plenty of parts but was hoping to go as new as possible for all control parts (steering/suspension/brakes/etc). the truck will be getting plenty of use when I'm done.
 

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it would probably be safe for daily use. more so manufacture liability. i just know some parts like that are sometimes for show or race cars and generally labeled "for offroad use only".

ya there is a lot of parts that are almost non existent or hard to find. it might not hurt to check out what is on the other parts trucks and see what shape they are in. some parts clean up nice with a bit of cleaning or sandblasting as long as they haven't been exposed to salt and sand like around me. the control arms i got to put on my truck are almost too clean for me to use but when they time comes may have no choice. they came off a very clean truck that only had 44,000miles.

this is mine that i painted a few years ago. still looks pretty good
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fair enough. I'll start with the youngest truck and work down from there on some of the harder to find parts. all of the trucks have plenty of miles on them, I'm just worried about metal fatigue with old stamped steel. One of the reasons I went with after market welded DOM tubing components on my el camino. the original control arms had plenty of stress cracks just waiting to fail. time to get my old man glasses out and start looking.
 

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never heard of stress cracks on on the control arms for these things. generally the only issues are rust or damage from someone screwing up a ballpoint replacement job. i doubt rust is really an issue with were you live but around here it is a big killer
 
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I'm usually on the 4th gen section but based on your profile pic, I'm just going to assume you are the 80-90s Dodge guru! thanks, really appreciate all of your help.
 

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hahaha i don't quite know about guru. maybe guru in training lol. don't think i am old enough to qualify as a guru and not that knowledgeable. still lots left to learn. i actually forgot to mention it in my last post but you might be interested in checking out ramcharger central if you are ever looking for certain hard to find parts or possibly need some good info. there is quite a few 1st gen guru's hanging out there. those guys can almost have huge conversation over the smallest things some days. you definitely learn lots some days. that is where i do most of my first gen learning.
 

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I have them on a 78 Lil red and on a 75 D100 I sold late last year. both uppers and lowers , but keep in mind they are designed to be used with their(X2) lower control arms which are meant to lower the front end 3 inches with stock coil springs.
 
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yeah saw that. not a huge fan of dropping my vehicles but so far what I've seen on line with image search, the d100's don't look too bad lowered. Although that is an expensive gamble if I end up not liking it first hand.

I'm probably going to clean up a set of OEM arms at this point and see where that leads. thanks for the heads up.
 
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yeah found that in a previous net search. didn't know if they actually had that stocked. I've seen Mopar suppliers still list A518 transmissions new only to find out when you call, no longer available.

I guess it's worth a shot though, I'll try giving them a call this week. thanks for the link.

BTW, any idea how to tell if I have a 4000lb axle vs a 3300 lb axle? the 3300 lb version is discontinued.
 

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i would still recommended checking/cleaning up the stock control arms first before considering ordering new ones. i bet they will probably surprise you. trucks don't really get beat on quite like cars do.

hard to say what axle it has. my 81 has the 3300lb front axle which seems to have the same inner bearing as a 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. not sure if there is an easier way to check. i think they 3300lb front axle might be the more common setup used but realistically it all looks the same when i have had it apart. i almost think the 4000lb axle might be the 4x4 front axle

to tell you the truth you are better off ordering a rebuilt transmission if the 1 you have is not working properly. plus if you are going to get it rebuilt you may want to look into getting a megaviper trans. it should stand up to anything the 360 you are putting in it can put out.
 
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yeah, plan A is to check the OEM arms on the several trucks I have. Just like to plan for back up.

the 46rh in my garage is out of a truck with less than 40,000 miles. Pulled it out of a rollover vehicle and have sequestered it for a while now. the one in my 93 will likely need a rebuild if I use it. I REALLY want to put a manual in. been in contact with Jamie Passon at Passonperformance. He's making an A-855 5 speed in house trans for Mopars. down side is that's a lot of $$$. My buddies are already asking "who restores a 70's dodge truck?" but considering this has a lot of personal meaning and will be my keep forever vehicle, I'm really considering it.
 

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with how many parts trucks you have you got to have a good set in 1 of them.

the 46RH like what is used in the 93 are pretty good transmission. if you want a 5 speed have you just considered a nv4500? ya most people don't really restore any 1st gen trucks. there is really no money at all to be made in them. it will cost you more to restore it than it will ever sell for. you can usually get a nice clean diesel for about $10-15k and you can usually get a pretty nice gasser for less. it really don't take very much to burn $10k on a old truck especially if you go the restomod route.
 
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yeah, I asked about the nv4500 in another thread. My assumption is I have to find a dodge V8 specific one to bolt onto a magnum engine. Or find a dodge gas bellhousing and any NV4500. the bellhousings are hard to come by and when I see one, it's easily $300-400 plus shipping. makes the Passon transmission seem less out of reach. may take a stroll through pick n pull this spring, seems hit or miss around my parts. new carcasses are picked clean day 1.

btw, have $4000 over 5 years, into the project so far, that' all 4 trucks.
 

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$3-400 is not too bad. most people will usually ask $1000 for a complete swap kit for a nv4500. you could possibly go with a nv3500 but i don't know how well it would put up with the torque put out by the 360.

$4000 for 4 trucks is not too bad. around here if i had 4 parts trucks as clean as the 1's you had i could make an easy $10k+ off them. a decent clean box with minimal rust usually goes for $500-1000 and a good cab usually goes for about the same. doors and fenders are usually about $150/each and engines/transmssions very depending on what they are. not a ton of money in engine/transmission unless you find someone that could really use one now. same with frames. unless someone needs ones they are a hard sell but you do find people needing stuff like upper control arms and leaf springs or leaf spring mounts. the money adds up quick when you got the space to part them out or sit on them but things might be a bit more different around you. there might be people interested in the parts but they might not be willing to pay quite as much since they are more readily available where here finding decent clean stuff is hard.
 

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