DIY: 2013+ RA3/RA4 8.4" Radio Conversion Upgrade

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  1. Mpgrimm2

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    Indaram's - DIY - OEM 5.0 Radio to 8.4 Radio Upgrade
    Cached Pg 6

    http://www.ramforum.com/f75/diy_-_oem_5_0_radio_8_4_radio_upgrade-66196/index6.html


    Indaram's - DIY - OEM 5.0 Radio to 8.4 Radio Upgrade
    Cached Pg 7

    http://www.ramforum.com/f75/diy_-_oem_5_0_radio_8_4_radio_upgrade-66196/index7.html
     
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    A couple notes on possible crimp tools for those wanting to make their own harness. If anyone else has links/details to affordable ones they used that worked well please let me know and I will update this post...


    The link to the crimper cptwing used is/was broken.
    It may have been this one by iWiss <--- RECOMMENDED! (the one ebay/DuPont one below sucks)

    From the original backup Cam thread..
    Note: A bread bag's Twist Tie with about 3/8" of the coating stripped off, makes a fairly decent pin lock/release tool if you need to pop out pins from the connectors after they have been installed....
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    Mouser Electronics, DigiKey Electronics, Newark Electronics, Allied Electronics, Nexus Electronics (NexElec.com) depending on who you can locate in-stock qty and reasonable minimums.

    On a related note, just got these cool terminal/extraction tools in and look forward to trying them out making some harnesses soon. Looks like it will cover just about everything. (But too short to be useful for the conversion harness)
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    Lisle 57750 Wire Terminal Tool Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007WQQHA2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_YGtqybGM633J2

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    MPgrimm2 Harness Notes:

    For those of you making your own extended harness, here is a bit of details from mine that may help you...

    - Use twisted & soldered connections for splices (blobs can be unreliable)
    - Use 1/8” heatshrink over splices vs electrical tape
    - (optional) Lightly ‘flow’ solder at all pin crimps for durability and to prevent “pullouts”.

    - Some other useful accessories if you do a lot of this stuff:
    I use a Weller WES51 soldering iron with ET0 tip, helping hands, Solder Tip Cleaner, Kester 60/40 Solder (or similar),

    - Here's a kit of wire with (6) 25ft rolls of 22awg wire with 6 different colors
    or (10) 25ft rolls of 22awg wire with 10 different colors (10 Colors to match the schematic)

    - Here's Braided sleeving: 25 FT 3/8" Black Expandable Wire Cable Sleeving Sheathing Braided Loom Tubing (main harness)
    and 5 FT 1/4" Black Expandable Wire Cable Sleeving Sheathing Braided Loom Tubing (bezel segment)

    00R/T's Crimping Notes:



    Some soldering basics to start:

    Soldering pt 1
    Correct solder splice1.jpg
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    Soldering pt 2
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    Soldering pt 3
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    Soldering pt 4
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    Questionable Solder Splice
    4spd harness Orig Splice.jpg
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    Crimped & Soldered Pins (Optional - Unless crimps are questionable)
    Crimp & solder pins for Durability.jpg
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    More Mpgrimm2 Extended Harness "Braided Sleeving" notes:

    NOTE: I used braided nylon sleeving and heatshrink which can be a bit more difficult to work with vs split wire loom.

    (i.e. I covered harness with 1/2' nylon sleeve/braiding. Finished with 3/4" & 1/2" heatshrink.)


    Bezel Breakout 1.jpg
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    Other End 1:
    Braided Jacket Finishing 1.jpg
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    Other End 2:
    Braided Jacket Finishing 2.jpg
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    Other End 3:
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    Other End 4:
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    Other End 5:
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    Finished Harness w/Sleeving:
    Completed Harness.jpg
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    Just a quick note on the bezel ...

    There are 2 bezels that will work with the 8.4AN conversion...

    - Preferred option 1:
    SINGLE ZONE OEM 8.4" (MTC) BEZEL
    P/N: 5VD75JXPAA or 1UJ96DX9AC (or AE, AF, etc)

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    - Workable option 2:
    DUAL ZONE OEM 8.4" (ATC) BEZEL
    P/N: _____________ or 1UJ97DX9AC (or AE, AF, etc)

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    The ATC bezel has all the same controls/buttons but also has 3 extra buttons that will be non-functional with the conversion.
    The 2 right side buttons (up/dwn) for the passenger side Temp control (dual zone), and 1 (1/2) button on the center knob for the Auto temperature feature.

    The ATC bezel was verified to work minus the items noted above by Cptwing, Jared4.7, See Here, (and later by Mpgrimm2).
     
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    What post are you looking for exactly

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    [quote name="Indaram" post=1007604]Here are the details for converting a 2014 RA2 MTC bezel "with 7 speed blower" to a RA3/4 MTC bezel for an 8.4 Uconnect Radio.

    Parts Required For MOD:
    8.4 Uconnect Radio (VP3/RA3 - Non-Nav) or (VP4/RA4 - Nav) **Check car-part.com or ebay.
    Heater Control Module: - 68183973AB
    Dash Controls: - 1UJ96DX9AF

    Connectors & Pins to Make Adapter Harness (Required) (Use attached wire diagram and pinout below)
    24 Pin Connector 1: 1318917-1 TE Connectivity | Mouser
    24 Pin Connector 1 - Pins: 1123343-1 TE Connectivity / AMP | Mouser
    24 Pin Connector 2: 1376103-1 TE Connectivity | Mouser
    24 Pin Connector 2 - Pins: 1376109-1 TE Connectivity / AMP | Mouser
    08 Pin Female - Connector: 30700-1081 Molex | Mouser
    08 Pin Female - Pins: 1393366-1 TE Connectivity / AMP | Mouser

    22 or 24 AWG stranded wire
    Crimp tool to crimp the pins on the wire. (Check Amazon & Ebay for wire and crimp tool)

    Harness Pinout
    24 Pin Connecter (2014)
    Pin 01 to Pin 01 (Also needs to splice over to Pin 4 on 8 Pin Connector)
    Pin 02 to Pin 02
    Pin 03 to Pin 06
    Pin 04 to Pin 05
    Pin 05 to Pin 04
    Pin 06 Blank
    Pin 07 to Pin 13
    Pin 08 on Moves to Pin 2 on 8 Pin Connector
    Pin 09 to Pin 07
    Pin 10 to Pin 08
    Pin 11 Blank
    Pin 12 to Pin 10
    Pin 13 to Pin 9
    Pin 14 to Pin 14 (Also needs to splice over to Pin 3 on 8 Pin Connector)
    Pin 15 to Pin 15
    Pin 16 to Pin 16
    Pin 17 to Pin 17
    Pin 18 to Pin 18
    Pin 19 to Pin 19
    Pin 20 to Pin 20
    Pin 21 to Pin 21
    Pin 22 to Pin 22
    Pin 23 to Pin 23 (Also needs to splice over to Pin 5 on 8 Pin Connector)
    Pin 24 to Pin 24 (Also needs to splice over to Pin 1 on 8 Pin Connector)

    Optional parts, See Note 1 below.
    911/Assist Mirror: - 68096091AF
    Antenna Cable Body Cell & SDARS "QUAD/CREW": - 68148279AD
    Antenna Jumper Cable: - 68148258AD
    Shark Fin Antenna: - 5091278AC
    SD Card Media Hub: - 68096428AD

    NOTE 1:
    You can omit the Mirror, Antenna body cable, Antenna jumper cable, and shark fin antenna if you buy the OEM auto parts plug shown here:
    911 Vehicle Phone Override Cable

    Or you can make your own using the following parts (search ebay and amazon for these)
    Farka D connector with 2 to 6 inch lead
    10k Ohm Resistor with 5% tolerance, 1/2 watt.

    Just solder one end of the resistor to the center wire and the other end to the wire shielding. Tape it up with electrical tape or heat shrink it.

    NOTE 2:
    There is a confirmed working mod for those that have a 2013/14 with 5 speed blower, but being I do not have that and cant confirm how its setup, I will not include those instructions in this post.

    ********
    I take NO credit for any of this, just wanted to sum this info up for everyone here. All credit goes to getupkid and others for getting this project started and all their research. Please do not PM me asking me to make and sell you a harness.. I only made 2 and used them both.
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    Alright. 3.5hrs digging through cached webpages and I'm burnt out.

    - Managed to get most of the Cptwing's Info on the conversion for 4 speed fan folks
    (But no pictures)

    - Absolutely could not locate a cached page of Indaram's Original post for the 7 Speed fan folks.

    That original thread is locked and the relevant posts are missing.


    - The 4 speed fan instructions by Cptwing at posts 81, 85, 88, 89, & 90 are lost along with the detailed pictures he posted.
    I managed to dig them out from Google's cached web pages archive, but without the pictures.

    -Indaram's original post 1 from his consolidated info thread detailing the 7 speed conversion was lost (part numbers, links, etc) and the entirety of his thread are gone.
    I was able to go through the cached Google pages for relevant posts, but couldn't locate a cached page for Indaram's post 1.

    EDIT: Thanks 1500ram12 for the above post!
     
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