INFO - 2013-2017 8.4AN FW Notes (RA4/VP4 NA)

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    Since some have had issues with the RA4 conversion I am looking to gather some details into one thread. I will try to update the op and first few related posts as new information is found and posted.

    ** My plan is to host the software update files for the various 2013-2017 8.4AN's so people can roll back to previous versions as needed and make it easier for others to stop chasing down various VINs to get updates **


    I am very interested in getting actual P/N's and FW versions from each successful 8.4AN model year (this will help with verifying what we purchase from various vendors and correct FW).

    Also looking for anyone with a factory installed 8.4 AN from 2013-2018 that is willing to help verify some of these details. Anyone with the above info please post or PM me so that I can add it to the thread.


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    POST 2: 2013 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
    Verified P/N's from members:

    - 5091051AA AC AD AE AF AG AI AK

    - 68211955AI ... (ebay listing)

    - 68190240AA AB AC AD AE AF AG AH AI AJ AK

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    POST 3: 2014 8.4AN Firmware (RA4/VP4 NA)
    Verified P/N's from members:

    - 68224525AA AB AD AE AG AH ZH

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    POST 4: 2015 8.4AN Firmware (RA4/VP4 NA)
    Verified P/N's from members:

    - 68238619AA AC AE AF AG AH
    A few members had some issues. See post 4.

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    Post 5:
    2016 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
    - Some have had problems with it. Some have had success. Doesn't seem to consistently work in 2013, 2014 & some 2015 trucks. See post 5.
    Verified P/N's from members:

    - 68258671AA AE AF AG AH

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    Post 6: 2017 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
    Verified P/N's from members: (need more feedback)

    - 68270661Ax

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    POST 7: 2013-2017 8.4AN Canadian Info (RA4/VP4 CA)
    - No apps/Cell service = No need for Cell Bypass Plug (but no HD radio).
    Verified P/N's from members: SEE the linked post for details. (no fw links)

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    Other useful 8.4 AN/VP4 NA/RA4 related thread links:

    - Indaram's: DIY: 2013+ RA3/RA4 8.4" Radio Conversion Upgrade
    This thread summarizes the useful links, schematics, and parts needed for conversion of trucks with either the 7 speed fan or 4 speed fan.

    - Getupkid's: DIY 5.0 to 8.4 Navigation upgrade (Originial DIY thread - THREAD IS NOW LOCKED. SEVERAL CRITICAL POSTS LOST)

    - Uconnect Software update site (if you have a valid model year VIN that matches the model year of your radio).
    DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FLASH THE WRONG YEAR FIRMWARE TO INCORRECT YEAR RADIOS!

    - Cgeorgemo's: DIY: 2013-2014 OEM Steering Wheel Audio Control Install
    Easy mod to add steering wheel controls to 2013+ steering wheels.

    - Cptwing's: Installing OEM backup cam
    Useful thread for installing the official RAM backup camera kits.

    - Frobozz's: Hacking Uconnect 8.4A and 8.4AN
    Useful reference from the Dodge Cummins Diesel forum about getting into various modes, i.e.

    * Dealer Mode (Use this to identify your Radio's P/N and S/N !)
    .. Hold Hot+Cold+Front defrost buttons for 5 seconds

    * Engineering Mode

    .. Hold Hot+cold+buttons for 5 seconds

    * Screen Calibration
    * How to save a screenshot to USBdrive

    * Vehicle Shipping Mode (Reference Only, Not recommended)
    .. Front Defrost + Browse/Enter for 5 seconds
     
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    2013 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA, p/n)
    Possible & Verifed P/N's:

    - 5091051AA AC AD AE AF AG AI AK
    - 5091051AI ... Ram_Fish1 / ... (2013 Truck w/ fw v14.25.5)

    - 68211955AI ... (ebay listing / CD4Car.com)

    - 68190240 AA AB AC AD AE AF AG AH AI AJ AK
    - 68190240AD ... 05roush0090 / ... (ebay listing / CD4Car.com)


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    Latest Version: 17.11.07
    NOTE: The only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso and swdl.upd"

    - v.17.11.07 Fw Link (2013 ONLY!) and Update Directions Link
    List of changes: FCA tsb_08-071-17 MY13_MY14 RA4 VP4-NA v17.11.07.pdf
    MD5: 631991AC20F5D26D3C0AA1908D9BE7BF


    NOTE: For prior FW, the only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso"

    - v.16.13.13 Fw Link (2013 & 2014) and Update Directions Link
    List of 16.13.13 changes: 2013-2014 16.13.13 FW FCA Bulletin KL_08_054_16.pdf
    MD5: 087FCFA00F5CDB2A6715D98F9244878F

    - v.15.26.1 Fw Link (2013 & 2014) and Update directions Link
    MD5: 61C32B7D7B079FF3EB5D77A047F550C5



     
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    2014 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA, 68224525AB)
    Verified P/N's from members:

    - 68224525AB ... Jared 4.7
    - 68224525AD ... Tallsilver
    - 68224525AE ... (Avgas & LQK Ebay listing)
    - 68224525AG ... OutlawTrucker
    - 68224525ZH ... SitKneelBend
    - 68224525AH ... (Vin Verified via LakelandMotors Parts clerk, CptWing, & Mpgrimm2)

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    Latest Version: 17.11.07
    NOTE: The only files that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso and swdl.upd"

    - v.17.11.07 Fw Link (2014 ONLY!) and Update Directions Link
    List of changes: FCA tsb_08-071-17 MY13_MY14 RA4 VP4-NA v17.11.07.pdf
    MD5: ADF1ADCAA4DD73CE9519C69413D414E5


    NOTE: For prior FW, the only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso"

    - v.16.13.13 Fw Link (2013 & 2014) and Update Directions Link
    List of changes: 2013-2014 16.13.13 FW FCA Bulletin KL_08_054_16.pdf
    MD5: 087FCFA00F5CDB2A6715D98F9244878F

    - v.15.26.1 Fw Link (2013 & 2014) and Update directions Link
    MD5: 61C32B7D7B079FF3EB5D77A047F550C5

    - v.14.25.5 (Provided by another member) and Update Directions Link
    MD5: A7E98C0DA5E8C72BC9F0C7BD2227DECA


     
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    2015 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
    Verified P/N's :


    - 68238619AC ... (Verified via Parts clerk)
    - 68238619AE ... Brakeblkram (on fw 14.23.3, update to 15.17.5 not attempted)
    - 68238619AF ... ???
    - 68238619AG ... CptWing (on fw 15.06.1, update to 15.17.5 not attempted)
    - 68238619AH ... Jake2544 (2014 Truck w/ v15.17.5 FW. Prior 2016 RA4 had issues)

    - 68238619AA ... (HankRam2015 & Indaram had problems), See post 7 and posts 41/48 .
    Both members have had issues with this AA p/n accepting firmware updates (stuck at v13.44).
    NavRepair.com was able to get HankRam2015's RA4 updated/working.

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    Latest Version: 17.11.07
    NOTE: The only files that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso and swdl.upd"

    - v.17.11.07 Fw Link (2015 ONLY!) and Update Directions Link
    List of changes: tsb_08-047-17 MY15 RA4 VP4-NA v17.11.07.pdf
    MD5: C3BAB0B4E7D6174DA0028ABA012E68DC


    NOTE: For prior FW, the only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso"

    - v.16.16.13 Fw Link (2015 Radios ONLY) and Update Directions Link
    List of Changes:
    2015 16.16.13 FW FCA Bulletin KL_08_053_16.pdf

    MD5: 0958FAB82D9C8C5975D6C4E598FEA8AA

    - v.15.17.5 Fw Link (2015 radios ONLY) and Update Directions Link
    MD5: 8E62CCEB8F29143CA41B9CD81C37B858


     
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    DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for you or what you do with your radio. It is up to you to know if these are correct for you or not. Use these files absolutely at your own risk. I am simply trying to help those that can't get a verified VIN for their 8.4AN swap or want to roll back to previous firmware for some reason.

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    (GET IT! You should check your downloads against MD5’s whenever they’re posted to verify a good download.)

    2016 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA)
    Some have had problems with it and a some have had success using these with the conversion. Doesn't seem to consistently work in 2013, 2014 & some 2015 trucks.


    Verified P/N's:
    - 68258671AA ... JRG18 (2015 Truck w/ FW v15.17.5)
    - 68258671AA ... oGutierre66 (2016 Truck w/ FW v15.03.6) issues were harness related See post 137
    - 68258671AA ... Dodgetk81 (2015 Truck w/ FW v15.30.2)
    - 68258671AF ... GYSOT (2014 Truck w/ FW v15.30.2)
    - 68258671AG ... Cmacks88 (2014 Truck w/ FW v15.41.4)
    - 68258671AH ... ernbrdn (2016 Truck & Factory RA4 w/ FW v16.09.09)

    - 68258671AA & AE ... Getupkid & Mpgrimm2 had problems, See POST 135
    ( No Sound/No Volume up & dwn control. "Settings" menu locked out/doesn't recognize key in "run" position. FW v15.25.8)

    - 68258671AE & AF ... Jake2544 had problems (see here)
    (Weekly loss of Sound. Requires reset/battery disconnect. Tried FW v15.25.8 & 15.30.2)

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    Latest Version: 17.11.07
    NOTE: The only files that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso and swdl.upd"

    - v.17.11.07 Fw Link (2016 ONLY!) and Update Directions Link
    List of changes: tsb_08-046-17 MY16 RA4 VP4-NA v17.11.07.pdf
    MD5: E6C8EE8556CD3C76528D1329FD29A586


    NOTE: For prior FW, the only file that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.iso" (v16.33.29 adds swdl.upd )

    - v16.33.29 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only) (Update Directions Link)
    List of Changes: My16 RA4 v16.33.29 FCA tsb_08-057-16 Rev A.pdf
    MD5: A8505D43036AAC8B57551A5422AF2A8C

    - v.16.09.09 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only)
    (Update Directions Link)
    List of Changes: 2016 RA4 v16.09.09 FCA tsb_wk2_08-057-16.pdf
    MD5: 851B0DC9C822972A14F5137D2F43EF30

    - v.15.44.4 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only) (Update Directions Link)
    MD5: F3041E917239A615B7D493F78EC82857

    - v.15.30.2 Fw Link (2016 VP4-NA only) (Update Directions Link)
    MD5: 73BECE1EA3B80CCC3D0747AB364E5A44

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    Here is my understanding after several emails with NavRepair Support:
    - 68258671xx series 2016 RA4’s are RAM compatible and the latest 2016 FW is v16.09.09 but they do not recommend it for pre-2016 Rams.


    12-30-15 EDIT (Via Email):

     
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    2017 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 NA) NEED more info. If you have any please share.

    Verified P/N's:

    - 68270661AE ... RebelChief, Banjo, CurlyP (v16.23.21 in factory 17 Ram). See Post 630

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    Latest Version: 17.11.07
    NOTE: The only files that should be on your Fat32 4gb+ Thumbdrive when ready will be "swdl.upd"

    - v.17.11.07 Fw Link (2017 ONLY!) and Update Directions Link
    List of changes: tsb_08-053-17c MY17 RA4 VP4-NA v17.11.07.pdf
    MD5: 61B6FDD3A663CA6071D8FBF1E2C96C8B

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    Following for reference only:

    - 68283240AB ... TNram had problems
    *EDIT: This is a 2017 Jeep Compass Panasonic UAQ Radio *
    See POST 469 - Post 471
    ( Problems with garbled backup camera video )

    *EDIT 2: Mpgrimm2 tried one in 2013 RAM. Backup Cam worked fine, but couldn't get it out of "Metric" settings, and other issues.
     
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    Canadian RA4/VP4_CA Radio Info for those interested...

    DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for you or what you do with your radio. It is up to you to know if these are correct for you or not. Use these files absolutely at your own risk. I am simply trying to help those that can't get a verified VIN for their 8.4AN swap or want to roll back to previous firmware for some reason.

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    2013 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 CA)
    Possible P/N's (need verified from members):

    - 68184965AK (bubbasneed)
    - 68184965AG (RLK)

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    2014 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 CA)
    Possible P/N's (need verified from members):

    - 68211965AF (ebay)

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    2015 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 CA)
    Possible P/N's (need verified from members):

    - 68238626AE (Express SN95)
    -
    Latest version:
    - v.14.32.3 Fw Link (2015 radios ONLY) (Update Directions Link)
    MD5:

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    2016 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 CA)
    Possible P/N's (need verified from members):

    - 68258675AA (in the 15.17.5 firmware update file list a few posts down)

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    2017 8.4AN (RA4/VP4 CA)
    Possible P/N's (need verified from members):


    - 68270663Ax (TerraNewf, v16.51.19 in factory 17 Ram 2500) See Post 630)


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    Courtesy of bubbasneed's 2013 VP4 CA radio (Canadian) ...
     
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    Edit: Chrysler VIN Body code info

    For brand new codes, a pattern seems to be emerging for the second digit, with “F” representing a Fiat adaptation of a Chrysler code (or a Chrysler version of a Fiat), and “6” or “A” being a Maserati adaptation. Maybe.

    Numbers: Hyundais (Mexico), 10=Verna/Attitude, 16=H100, 21=Atos/i10, 52=1000 van, 55=Trazo; Lancias, 22=Delta, 23=Ypsilon; 92=???

    L-cars: LX = 300/300C. LD = Charger. LC = First Challenger. LA = Future Challenger, L2=Chinese 300C, LF=?.

    K-cars: KJ/KK=Liberty, KL = Cherokee. K2 = non-Toledo Cherokee, K1 = non-Toledo Liberty

    JK = Jeep Wrangler, J3 = Wrangler knockdown kit (Egypt production), JL = Future Wrangler

    JS = 200/Avenger; JT = formerly planned 200/Avenger replacement?

    U-cars: U1 (new/export), U2 (new/export), UA (Fiat small car), UC (Chrysler midsize/JNAP), UF (Chrysler/Lancia midsize, SHAP — 200 replacement), UG (?), UJ (Jeep midsize), UK (?), UL (old code for KL), UM (?), UT (Dodge Avenger replacement, possibly dead)

    JC = Journey, JD = Future Journey, J5 = Journey export, JF = Fiat Freemont, JG = ?, JZ = cancelled Chrysler Journey

    WK = Grand Cherokee, W6 = Levante, WD= Durango, WL (2017+ G.C.), WS (Wagoneer? 2016+)

    FF = Fiat 500, PF = Dodge Dart

    VF = Van-Fiat: Ram ProMaster, PW = full size van?, VR (Daily?), VT (Doblo?)

    RM = Unknown, new for 2014; ZD, 2013+ Viper

    M = non-Belvedere Patriot, MA= Alfa Cherokee, MM = Toledo version of Jeep compact crossover(?)

    P3 = non-Belvedere Compass, PJ = future Compass, PK = future Dodge compact

    NE = Next Dakota

    RT = minivans; RM = Routan minivan; RU= future minivans (2015/2016?)

    Rams:
    D2 = Ram 3500; D3 = future Ram 3500?; DA = Ram 4500/5500; DD = Ram 3500 chassis; DE = ? ; DJ = Ram 2500/3500; DP = Ram 4500/5500; DS = Ram;

    DX: Ram (Mexico); DY: Ram (Mexico); DZ: New; DU: Future Ram; DT = Future Ram
     
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    Useful post by cptwing from elsewhere...

    Useful post from Indaram about differences b/w 2014 and 2015 radios back when ...

     
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    My two problem radios

    First radio:
    Model VP4NA, Part# 05091051AI, Serial# T00BE107373627
    Came with 13.*** worked fine, upgraded to 15.*** Lost Nav altogether
    At navrepair, hopefully to be fixed.
    Edit: Supposedly from a 2014 Ram 1500....Vin given by Schramm verifies that????

    Replacement radio:
    Model VP4NA, Part# 68224525AD, Serial#TooBE226371455
    Came with 13.***, Nav shows (navigation activating), upgraded to 14.25.5 and same results.
    Edit: Supposedly from a 2014 Ram 3500 Vin given by Schramm verifies that????

    Two radios and still no navigation!!!!!!!!
     
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