Installing OEM backup cam

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    Ok, I will post more pics. Here is the pic from the splice under the Power Distro Center (PDC). Used an exacto knife to remove the insulation, wrapped the new red wire around the bare wire from the PDC (Note: this wire is the 5th from the right on the top row. The instructions say PK/YT which is pink with a yellow tracer, unfortunately there are 5 there). I used a continuity meter to make sure this wire was the one running to the 10a park view fuse. The instructions say to use the provided crimp to secure the wires then solder them, then to wrap them in the provided heat shrink, however since you don't cut the existing wire there isn't any way to get the heat shrink on there, so I coated it in liquid tape (available at any auto parts store) and wrapped it in electrical tape. Also, installing the crimp correctly requires the Mopar tool, a common pair of pliers works ok.
     

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    Sorry to go backwards but better late than never. Here is the tailgate extension. Not sure why it is even there but the short of it is that the end coming out of the tailgate is a female connector, the end on the main harness is also female so Mopar uses this extension to connect the two. The problem is that the kit has a mail connector and tells you to remove the 2 locking tailgate wires (dark green and light green) and insert them into the new harness male connector; the problem here is that the existing wires have male ends (pins) which will not work. So, you pull the white plug out of one end of the extension, cut the wires at the other end, then you can reach into the end you pulled the white plug out of, lift the female connector up and push the wires out. You end up with the right connector and about 6" of wire which you will have to connect to the 2 existing wires in the main harness (solder and heat shrink).
     

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    Here is the tailgate end.
     

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    Here is the locking tailgate wires.
     

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    Good work on the pictures.
    Especially the PDC power wire and explanation. I think the directions intend for that power wire to be cut through, both ends stripped, slide the heat shrink over one end and the new wire, then twist, crimp and solder all 3 back together and heat shrink the new joint. Personally, I hate breaking a perfectly good conductor If I can help it and your solution with the liquid tape is a solid alternative.

    I can't say for sure since my install with Jeepguy's Custom harnesses was slightly different but from reading the Official Kit's directions I 'believe' that you shouldn't have had to cut any wires at the back near the tailgate like that to change pins from male to female unless it is to extend those wires because of the modified bumper you have. If you are at the correct "body side tailgate connector", you should have had female pins.

    Instead, the new chassis/Camera harness gets the original 2 female lock solenoid pins added to it at pins 7 & 8 (i550) which in turn plugs into that 6 inch tailgate extension, which goes to the bottom connector of the tailgate/harness.

    Honestly, I never realized the extension was there at all since it and the main tailgate harness were already in my truck's tailgate (likely because of the existing power tailgate lock). If I may ask, what is your Trim Level and vin to hunt for your Tech Authority schematics? (maybe its a 2014 thing or the factory messed up the harness and the extension was their fix).

    The i550 connector should be one end of that extension and should have been originally secured at one end near the spare tire. I would imagine the purpose of the extension is to serve as a wear and tear item, taking the abuse of the tailgate opening and closing so that it is cheaper to replace that extension than the tailgate or chassis harness on either side.


    It sounds like you will be able to get it all worked out, but I went ahead and pulled these pictures from Jeepguy's DIY Camera (Custom Harness) thread OP to show the location of i550 connector I am talking about with the 2 female lock solenoid pins from the existing chassis harness that must be moved to the new camera chassis harness' connector.
    Hopefully it will help clarify the directions further.

    I might be wrong, but that's my understanding since cptwing didn't mention having to do that with the same kit. I may have to go take a look under my truck again if I get up before the snow gets here today and double check. Hmm.

    8/1/15 Edit: Added i550 tailgate extension note/picture.

    1-27-16 EDIT:
    Post 586 & 587 - ** i550 tailgate connector info links & disassembly pictures to help with moving the 2 lock wires **
     

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    And for those that make it to the back of the radio connector, I rotated the image from the directions and hopefully will have a picture to add from 70chall440.

    NOTE:

    NOTE.... VIEW IS FROM THE BACK OF THE CONNECTOR IN CASE YOU OVERLOOK IT !!!


    9-29-16 EDIT:
    For those that need assistance getting any existing pins out of the connector (depopulating pins):
    NOTE: The red TPA Lock will have to be removed to install or remove any pins.

    Tyco/AMP doesn't seem to have an instruction sheet for the Radio C1 connector, but I pieced this together from a few places.

    To depopulate, you will need to remove the Red TPA lock, then use a small screwdriver (likely less than 2mm wide)to release the individual pin lock so that you can pull the wire out the back (with very little force).
    (pin lock will be above or below the pin. Not sure if you access it from front or back, probably the back).

    Snipet Below (from 8.4 conversion harness 8pin Molex connector ):
     

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    I must be bored (I should be asleep now).

    I went ahead and compared both sets of directions from the 2 kits above and I believe the Camera/Chassis Harness that goes from the tailgate through the firewall boot is the same in both kits.

    It has the same 8 pin connector and color codes under the dash and it looks like the 8 pin connector allows for either of 2 harnesses... one harness option to go to the back of the radio/monitor, and another harness option to go to the back of the mirror if it is used as the monitor in Express trucks. Although it looks like the Express truck option is pulling switched power from behind the 12v Swiched /lighter outlet on the lower left radio panel vs at the PDC under the hood.

    It would be nice to find the wiring schematics for these 2 kits on the Tech Authority site to be sure (something to hunt for later).

    It really is a fairly flexible solution the Ram engineers came up with.
     
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    thanks; I have a Big Horn VIN 3C6TR5DT8EG139632. In the picture of the i550 connector, on my truck I had 2 of those; one just underneath the tailgate and the other on the main harness. The extension or jumper went between the two. As for having to cut the 2 wires, there wasn't any other way to accomplish the connection.
     
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    I will get a picture of the radio connector once I get there. I have to get to the BCM first.
     

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