Spohn Panhard vs relocation bracket

[R/T_Fire]

Quick question since I don't read it anywhere on the product info, Do I still need the relocation bracket or does it do away with it?

 

[THETANK]

God I hope I do not need it as the lowering is costing me a pretty penny

 

[Hemi450hp]

The relocation bracket is needed regardless of which panhard bar you are running. The bracket is what keeps the panhard bar parallel to the axle. The adjustable panhard bar is what allows you to center the axle from side to side.

 

[R/T_Fire]

The relocation bracket is needed regardless of which panhard bar you are running. The bracket is what keeps the panhard bar parallel to the axle. The adjustable panhard bar is what allows you to center the axle from side to side.

Thanks, I figured so just wasn't sure with the 4" drop...

Are they in Stock at the moment? Cause once I get home I will be ordering control arms and the Panhard bar and anything else rear end related you suggest

 

[Hemi450hp]

Yes sir. Have 8 of the black and 6 of the red panhard bars in stock right now.

 

[R/T_Fire]

sweet, I'll be ordering up a set tonight.. Thanks

 

[Quicksilver337]

why would you use the relocation with the adjustable panhard bar?
The purpose of the relocation bracket is to be used with your oem panhard bar. It's used to shift the rear end towards the passenger side as it was from factory. I've used the spohn adjustable panhard bar without the relocation bracket and the geometry of the rear end was just fine.

 

[R/T_Fire]

why would you use the relocation with the adjustable panhard bar?
The purpose of the relocation bracket is to be used with your oem panhard bar. It's used to shift the rear end towards the passenger side as it was from factory. I've used the spohn adjustable panhard bar without the relocation bracket and the geometry of the rear end was just fine.

I'll play with it but another important part is as matt said it needs to be parallel to the axle. If I don't like how it all works I will bend up a custom adjustable that keeps it parallel and no need for the bracket... but I don't want to go through all that work right now... just need to get things shifted back to the correct location

 

[Hemi450hp]

why would you use the relocation with the adjustable panhard bar?
The purpose of the relocation bracket is to be used with your oem panhard bar. It's used to shift the rear end towards the passenger side as it was from factory. I've used the spohn adjustable panhard bar without the relocation bracket and the geometry of the rear end was just fine.

Because without the relocation bracket, your panhard bar will not be anywhere close to parallel to your axle...this applies whether you are running the stock or an aftermarket panhard bar. The bracket keeps the panhard bar level with the axle, and then you use the adjustable panhard bar to center the axle from side to side.

 

[Quicksilver337]

Because without the relocation bracket, your panhard bar will not be anywhere close to parallel to your axle...this applies whether you are running the stock or an aftermarket panhard bar. The bracket keeps the panhard bar level with the axle, and then you use the adjustable panhard bar to center the axle from side to side.

so by using the relocation bracket the rear end will not shift towards the passenger side making the rear end centered?

 

[charonblk07]

so by using the relocation bracket the rear end will not shift towards the passenger side making the rear end centered?

If you're lowered it will still shift as the bar is not sitting perfectly parallel to the axle but it's less of an issue than without the bracket, the bracket helps quite a bit but it's not perfect and most I've seen are still off center a bit. Ideal scenario is the bracket with the adjustable bar but just the bracket will be a lot better than without.

 

[HemiXpress]

LOL, I did mine without the relocation bracket. So from what I am reading, I should have used it. Well, isn't that nice.

 

[R/T_Fire]

I hAve to check if mine is even there , dam axle sits so far to the passenger side it's scary.

But I just ordered the Panhard and control arms so the fix shall begin

 

[mtndewnut]

Yeah... I was understanding that with the relocation bracket installed that there is no need for a adjustable panhard bar .... If that is not the case, why aren't the adjustable panhard bars offered in the kit that I ordered a couple days ago? I am goign with the drop spindles and springs for the rear. (with the relocation bracket for the panhard bar)

 

[DavidRam]

Yeah... I was understanding that with the relocation bracket installed that there is no need for a adjustable panhard bar .... If that is not the case, why aren't the adjustable panhard bars offered in the kit that I ordered a couple days ago? I am goign with the drop spindles and springs for the rear. (with the relocation bracket for the panhard bar)

It's normal for the kits to NOT include the adjustable panhard bar. The relocation bracket helps, but your rear axle may or may not be centered (side to side) after the drop. If it is don't worry about it, if it isn't get an adjustable panhard bar...

The kits also don't come with longer control arms... Your axle will definitely be pulled forward by the drop and you will need longer or adjustable upper and lower control arms to re-center it (front to back). Some guys are ok with this some aren't.

 

[rick-rock]

The rear of our trucks have basically the same suspension as a jeep tj or jk. Jeepers have been dealing with this since 1997, yes I have a jeep, and we have lots of aftermarket support for this issue.
If you drop the rear 2" your fine, If you go 4" or more your in the ball park of needing a drop bracket and an adjustable panhard. One can get away with just a drop bracket until your buddy follows you somewhere and then asks why your truck drives down the road crooked(was it in a wreck?). The same can be said for an out of alignment to the axle adjustable panhard bar. Some will notice the rear of the truck dances around a bump/corner like a empty 3/4 or 1 ton truck. I know not every truck is exact and not everyones seat of the pants feel will be the same, but you'll be time ahead to get what you need the first time. Adjustable panhard and drop bracket.

Just my two cent coming from the jeep world

 

[charonblk07]

Yeah... I was understanding that with the relocation bracket installed that there is no need for a adjustable panhard bar .... If that is not the case, why aren't the adjustable panhard bars offered in the kit that I ordered a couple days ago? I am goign with the drop spindles and springs for the rear. (with the relocation bracket for the panhard bar)

The bracket comes with the drop kit, the adjustable panhard bar is made by the company that makes the control arms. The relocation bracket will get the stock panhard bar back close to neutral but it's not perfect if you're looking for the best performance.

 

[Sowardcustoms]

Without the drop down bracket regardless of what track bar you have your track bar will be well into the arc. So when you hit a bump or go around a corner it will feel like the rear end is moving around. because theres more lateral movement when the bar is not parallel to the axle centerline.

 

[R/T_Fire]

Without the drop down bracket regardless of what track bar you have your track bar will be well into the arc. So when you hit a bump or go around a corner it will feel like the rear end is moving around. because theres more lateral movement when the bar is not parallel to the axle centerline.

This!!!!! Makes the rear end feel looser than a 2 dollar ******.... Disclaimer: I have no reference to this, as I have never railed a ******.

But from switching out the panhard bard and installing the bracket back on the truck it tightened up the rear alot and got the panhard bar parallel with the axle where it should be.

 

[gonzo1968]

I got some digging to do. I did my kit years ago and never bothered to use the relocation bracket.