Synthetic Oil

Discussion in 'Engine & Performance' started by mcclintock89, Feb 7, 2013.

Oil of Choice

  1. Castrol Syntec/Edge

    116 vote(s)
    8.7%
  2. Royal Purple

    196 vote(s)
    14.7%
  3. AMSOil

    204 vote(s)
    15.3%
  4. Valvoline Synpower

    74 vote(s)
    5.5%
  5. Mobil 1

    496 vote(s)
    37.2%
  6. Other

    248 vote(s)
    18.6%
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  1. Burla

    Burla Senior Member

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    One thing is for sure, the 0w40 is like a different oil. Just doesn't look near as impressive as even this PU 0w40. The calcium bugs me, I wonder if they had a bad batch? Which in itself would be a bad sign.

    Looky here Syn, voa 5w30 PUP, I just don't get it. Yours are way off from others,

    Lower calcium without the magnesium to back it up would likely be the culprit for the tbn being low. That uoa blows me away, I don't know what to make of it. We need to see some more in the penzoil thread for comparison. 1800 calcium with magnesium not bad, when you don't have mag you need like 2300 plus calcium for a longer oci.
     
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    Wow ! Only 10 iron ! And only 37 copper!

    Phosphorus & zinc are very low ?

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    RP 10-48

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    RP & Wix pleats look the same as does the Amsoil filter


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    From Burla's video RP 10-48 on the left and the Wix XP on the right .


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    Thanks rlk.

    If you look near the top it looks to me the rp is thicker media? What about editing that and putting the wix xp from my video as well? U are the man.

    I suggest everyone try both and cut them open after a run, and remark which one you like better. Two top quality filters either way you look at it.
     
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    SyN 6.7L CTD Owner

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    Yup I think they botched my UOA!
    I might do 1 more with my current OCI.
    (since it's free)
    Then possibly switch labs.
     
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    Damn I didn't even consider it could be the lab. If so what a fk up. I know someone messed up somewhere.
     
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    I'm gonna do a UOA on my PUP mix @ 4k to compare with SyN's PUP mix , mine has 3.5qts of PUP 0W-40 though ...

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    @ Burla, your video doesn't have a wix XP ?

    Anyway check out these two VOA s of PUP 5W-30 . The first is the one you posted earlier , it's from 2015 , the 2nd is one I had done earlier this year 2017 . Notice everything from the 2017 has gone DOWN ie ...Molybdenum , boron , magnesium, phosphorus , zinc and the TBN ..... this is a sign , need to stock up on REDLINE before it continues to drop as well !

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    Napa Platinum = Wix XP

    Even in this video it looks like the pleats are tight and thin.

    I don't think I am going to apologize today for liking the Royal Purple filter better. But I honestly think the Wix XP is excellent as well. The Fram kicks ass too. Guys, run synthetic filters!

    It may be that the Wix XP is tighter and more condensed, as their micron ratings are a little better then RP. However, over at Bob's many of the guys are less then impressed with Wix XP's ratings and beta testing, search for yourselves. One problem, RP doesn't have flow rates, so we can't compare. My gut tells me RP flows better, but Wix XP/Napa Platinum has a better micron rating on first pass. Syn's video is really good, shows others positives the wix xp has like a spring.

    Wix is a filter company, RP is an oil company, they haven't been as thorough with the tech sheets, but in my opinion the quality is in the filter.



    Thanks for posting those uoa's RLK and those filter snap shots, so yeah TBN tells the story. If it becomes a trend with PUP, then I'm not going to put them in the same breath as redline. Still a great oil, but it would be more of a short oci oil, and for what they charge and the marketing as their flagship oil, I'm not impressed. Fellas, this is why we need to keep up on the formulas. Now I wonder if I shouldn't get 5 more cases of redline for the life of the ram. I'm not joking neither, I have 3 already on the way. Corey bought some as well, 44 bucks a 1 gal jug amazon.
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