Synthetic Oil

[Ramnewbie]

First delivery this morning was ram dealer. On the 8 speeds they do strictly a flush, no filter change. Parts guy says OEM filter and pan are 1 piece and they can't even get them. I have a hard time believing that, just what he said.

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[GottaBeKD]

First delivery this morning was ram dealer. On the 8 speeds they do strictly a flush, no filter change. Parts guy says OEM filter and pan are 1 piece and they can't even get them. I have a hard time believing that, just what he said.

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They are correct. Filter and pan are one. Not everyone does... but I'd change the pan when changing the oil.

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[Hemi395]

First delivery this morning was ram dealer. On the 8 speeds they do strictly a flush, no filter change. Parts guy says OEM filter and pan are 1 piece and they can't even get them. I have a hard time believing that, just what he said.

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Yeah....that doesn't sound right....

 

[Burla]

Just occurred to me that it is after 1:00AM in NJ. I get it. I don't work for BG or pushing their products. Just like to get other peoples thoughts.

The only additive I consider using is bg, so they have quality stuff. As for you specific product that process is what makes it work.

 

[grizzstang]

First delivery this morning was ram dealer. On the 8 speeds they do strictly a flush, no filter change. Parts guy says OEM filter and pan are 1 piece and they can't even get them. I have a hard time believing that, just what he said.

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Trans filters don't look like they filter a whole lot to me. I usually only do a pan drop every other service and focus more getting new fluid in there. I avoid a trans flush as that implies they are adding chemicals to clean and use a shop that does a trans fluid exchange. I just want the old out and the new in with no cleaning chemicals.

 

[U&A]

First delivery this morning was ram dealer. On the 8 speeds they do strictly a flush, no filter change. Parts guy says OEM filter and pan are 1 piece and they can't even get them. I have a hard time believing that, just what he said.

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Sounds kind of like hassle I went through getting my water pump changed under warranty. One of the things they pulled on me was..

Phone calls were like,
Still waiting for parts
Still waiting for parts
Still waiting for parts.

Over three weeks in I called the dealer in the town that I used to live in, it was only 30 minute drive away and they had the part on their shelf. I asked if they didn't have it how long would it take to get one....”2 days”

I immediately called Chrysler customer care (or whatever its called) and complained.

Within five minutes of finishing that phone call I got a call from my dealer saying the part was in.

Bunch of fucksticks....

I got the runn around frome them in so many ways it was like the twilight zone

 

[Rampant]

I know this completely off topic but since there's a group of veterans on here do any of you have USAA insurance? Been thinking about changeing insurance companies.

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I never did use them. My parents had a life insurance account on me from birth with State Farm, so I stuck with them. I've checked rates at USAA and other companies over the years and have found a few marginally cheaper. I've had some expensive claims over the years (two Ducatis and a brand new '95 Mustang stolen, my house was hit by a hurricane in FL, and a bunch of other smaller comp stuff) They have never given me any **** or raised my rates after a claim, but I've never had an accident (that was my fault) and only two tickets in my life.

One of the Ducatis was very rare. They couldn't find a comparable one locally, so they found one in Long Beach, CA. They flew me out there (airfare, rental, hotel, food) just to look at it and after I approved, they bought it and had it shipped to my doorstep. You can't put a price on customer service like that.

I have dealt with USAA on the other end of insurance though. I had had my Dakota R/T for a couple months and a lady tapped my rear bumper at low speed. She used USAA. They met me a few days later in a bank parking lot. The appraiser looked at the damage and printed a check from his car on the spot. That was back in '00.

I did open a USAA savings account when I started truck shopping because I found many times you can get discounts on new cars just for being a member. I think I got $500 off my Ram because of it.

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[Fitz-0518]

Agree w/AF. Just as a side bar. "soldiers and sailors relief act" Fed law. You have solid rights that protect you from this type of creditor behavior. That said, may be "getting out" makes more sense. USAA. In the past there was a time when they were a cost saving option for Vets. I have had them price compare my insurance policy's twice. They could not compete, save us any money over State farm.

 

[Burla]

Oil industry experts have weighed in and said they will have to use other oil groupings for the newest gf-6 spec, as in pao and/or esters, and even added GtL as an option. They say this because they just can't get ground oil group 3 stout enough to protect metal at the weight of gf-6. How GtL can be part of that is a mystery to me, but we will actually be seeing true quality come back to oil but it will actually be otc oil and not just boutique's.

Now, the monkey in the wrench is one industry expert has hinted they may have a gf-6A and a gf-6B, with the B as the one needing pao/esters in order to protect timing chains and lowering the standard for gf-6a, or having thinner oils use the B. So oil guys may actually thank the gov't for their intervention as oil quality may increase significantly.

 

[Fitz-0518]

So we could get the complete system refilled with Amsoil/redline/trans fluid of our choice at one shot? That sounds like a deal there. I'll have to heck that one out.

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That is correct. My tech said he has no problem using what ever trans fluids I might want. On the air/fuel system, he may need to use BG because the system may be designed for their product.

 

[Burla]

There is a lot of talk about redline in this forum because of hemi tick. But if this happens it may be that any otc oil can combat what ails us. Time will tell.

 

[Fitz-0518]

Oil industry experts have weighed in and said they will have to use other oil groupings for the newest gf-6 spec, as in pao and/or esters, and even added GtL as an option. They say this because they just can't get ground oil group 3 stout enough to protect metal at the weight of gf-6. How GtL can be part of that is a mystery to me, but we will actually be seeing true quality come back to oil but it will actually be otc oil and not just boutique's.

Now, the monkey in the wrench is one industry expert has hinted they may have a gf-6A and a gf-6B, with the B as the one needing pao/esters in order to protect timing chains and lowering the standard for gf-6a, or having thinner oils use the B. So oil guys may actually thank the gov't for their intervention as oil quality may increase significantly.

Very interesting. What goes around always comes around

 

[Hemi395]

There is a lot of talk about redline in this forum because of hemi tick. But if this happens it may be that any otc oil can combat what ails us. Time will tell.

Unfortunately that most likely means the price of off the shelf motor oil will go up. PAOs and Esters ain't cheap...

 

[Burla]

Does this come through?

 

[Fitz-0518]

Does this come through?

Yes

 

[Burla]

oh ok, just in case.

I can't get the pdf to be visible, can anyone google "tech beat dr neil carter special report gf-6, pc-11, dexos 1. New engine oil specifications mean new additve challenges. See if you find the pdf, I was reading a trade journal and their pdf's sometimes don't come through for posting. That was one of the best articles I ever read and is telling of where the industry is going. It is more enlightening then you know.

 

[Burla]

Everyone wanting to know what modern oils will be read that. It was surprisingly good news imo. All I ever wanted is more options on the high end, just maybe we will get it.

I guess the downside was that was late 2015 and they still can't figure out gf-6. They are looking hard at increasing moly

 

[U&A]

There is a lot of talk about redline in this forum because of hemi tick. But if this happens it may be that any otc oil can combat what ails us. Time will tell.

Great couple posts sir.

Once redlines abilities were discovered....that is all we were looking for. another option to stop the tic...and now we may have it in the near future.

Though I believe they’re still not gonna have near the Molly that redline does and we know for a fact they’re not gonna have the ZDDP.

But that will be a great test of base stocks. If the PAO/ester can stop it without the high additives, we may have the option to leave redline...... if you so desire that is...

 

[U&A]

I vote Cory as the test subject

 

[U&A]

Does this come through?

Wont open on my phone.