New 2500 Tradesman with clunk/rattle

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About three weeks ago, I traded my 1500 in on a 2019 Ram 2500 Tradesman with the 6.4 Hemi. From the day I took delivery, there was a clunk/rattle sound that was frequent and annoying. Can't really hear it unless the windows are up. Seems to happen on rough patches of road. This is not a small rattle, a squeak, a hum, drone or anything like that. Just a clunky rattle that happens on washboard style streets. It happens when I'm not towing anything and it happens when I'm towing my boat, which is about 4,500 pounds trailer weight.

I've had it back to the dealer twice. First time, the service tech who was going to work on it rode with me and said he heard it. He said it was likely coming from behind the dash. I disagreed, saying I couldn't imagine anything back there heavy enough to make that kind of clunk/rattle. He disassembled the dash and secured some things back there and gave me the truck back. A freeway on-ramp two blocks from the dealership is rough. I immediately heard the rattle when running over the bumps. I called to get it back in, but had to go out two weeks to get another appointment.

I took it in and dropped it off two weeks later and they gave me a rental car to use so they could investigate. They had the truck for four days, each day saying they were troubleshooting it via "process of elimination" and had not identified the problem yet. On the fourth day, the service writer called and said they had opened a Star case on it. He said the engineers had suggested a computer flash or the "noise reduction module" they should try that may correct the problem. Two hours later, they called to say my truck was done.

I went to pick it up and they showed me a TSB for a drone/hum/booming problem in the cab of some 2500's that is supposedly fixed by this computer flash. None of the problems listed was even close to what I have reported. They told me everything under the truck was "perfect" and to drive it and see if the problem is fixed. It does not seem likely to me that a computer flash would fix this.

I asked for the Star case number, but was not provided with that. I asked for the itemized list from their service department on what had been checked, retorqued, etc. but didn't get that either. I took the truck and left - you guessed it - the rattle was there unabated as I hit the freeway ramp two blocks from the dealership. No way they could have test driven it and not heard the rattle after the flash was done.

I drove it over the weekend and think the following things may be true. It seems to occur when the right rear wheel hits the rough spots, but not so much when the front wheels or the left rear (driver side) wheel hits. At times, I operated the truck in Gear Limit mode because this works best driving in town. I didn't seem to hear the rattle as much when in this mode, but still can't be sure about that one. Does this make any sense to anyone?

My truck was built in March, 2019. I started noticing the clunk/rattle right away when I bought it in July. It now has 1200 miles on it and it still rattles. Even my girlfriend can hear it and she knows nothing about cars or trucks. Several of my buddies have admired the truck and then asked what the rattle was when I gave them a ride.

I love everything else about the truck, but this problem is really taking the enjoyment out of buying a new heavy duty towing beast of a truck. Has anyone else heard of this or experienced it? Any advice or suggestions for me going forward? I intend to call the service manager to get the Star case number and the service records I asked for but didn't get.
 

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If it was me. And I know it sucks to say this cause it’s a brand new truck. I’d crawl under it and tighten EVERYTHING. Sure sounds as if something is loose. Shock, sway bar, track bar, everything that can be tightened I’d touch it.
 

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About three weeks ago, I traded my 1500 in on a 2019 Ram 2500 Tradesman with the 6.4 Hemi. From the day I took delivery, there was a clunk/rattle sound that was frequent and annoying. Can't really hear it unless the windows are up. Seems to happen on rough patches of road. This is not a small rattle, a squeak, a hum, drone or anything like that. Just a clunky rattle that happens on washboard style streets. It happens when I'm not towing anything and it happens when I'm towing my boat, which is about 4,500 pounds trailer weight.

I've had it back to the dealer twice. First time, the service tech who was going to work on it rode with me and said he heard it. He said it was likely coming from behind the dash. I disagreed, saying I couldn't imagine anything back there heavy enough to make that kind of clunk/rattle. He disassembled the dash and secured some things back there and gave me the truck back. A freeway on-ramp two blocks from the dealership is rough. I immediately heard the rattle when running over the bumps. I called to get it back in, but had to go out two weeks to get another appointment.

I took it in and dropped it off two weeks later and they gave me a rental car to use so they could investigate. They had the truck for four days, each day saying they were troubleshooting it via "process of elimination" and had not identified the problem yet. On the fourth day, the service writer called and said they had opened a Star case on it. He said the engineers had suggested a computer flash or the "noise reduction module" they should try that may correct the problem. Two hours later, they called to say my truck was done.

I went to pick it up and they showed me a TSB for a drone/hum/booming problem in the cab of some 2500's that is supposedly fixed by this computer flash. None of the problems listed was even close to what I have reported. They told me everything under the truck was "perfect" and to drive it and see if the problem is fixed. It does not seem likely to me that a computer flash would fix this.

I asked for the Star case number, but was not provided with that. I asked for the itemized list from their service department on what had been checked, retorqued, etc. but didn't get that either. I took the truck and left - you guessed it - the rattle was there unabated as I hit the freeway ramp two blocks from the dealership. No way they could have test driven it and not heard the rattle after the flash was done.

I drove it over the weekend and think the following things may be true. It seems to occur when the right rear wheel hits the rough spots, but not so much when the front wheels or the left rear (driver side) wheel hits. At times, I operated the truck in Gear Limit mode because this works best driving in town. I didn't seem to hear the rattle as much when in this mode, but still can't be sure about that one. Does this make any sense to anyone?

My truck was built in March, 2019. I started noticing the clunk/rattle right away when I bought it in July. It now has 1200 miles on it and it still rattles. Even my girlfriend can hear it and she knows nothing about cars or trucks. Several of my buddies have admired the truck and then asked what the rattle was when I gave them a ride.

I love everything else about the truck, but this problem is really taking the enjoyment out of buying a new heavy duty towing beast of a truck. Has anyone else heard of this or experienced it? Any advice or suggestions for me going forward? I intend to call the service manager to get the Star case number and the service records I asked for but didn't get.

Had a dissimilar issue with a 2016 Tradesman that had a slow speed clunk up front that could be felt through the floorboards when going over large bumps at an angle in the road. The dealer tech kept the truck a full day while I had a loaner. Tech would up loosening up numerous front end suspension components to let the components go back to a natural "set", then realigned and torqued everything back to specs. Never had the low speed clunk or any other noise thereafter. Know this likely isn't exactly the same as your issue if you are hearing a "rattle" instead, but still might be something to mention to service writer. Good luck and let us know how you come out.

Lee
 
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Thanks Lee. I had read about that issue and mentioned it to the techs. Mine doesn't seem to be only when on an incline, in a "bind" or when turning left ot right. Happens on any sustained piece of rough road. I thought it might be the exhaust system rebounding and hitting against something but they reportedly checked that. I have crawled under the whole length of the truck and pulled and shook everything I could reach. Not exactly scientific but didn't notice anything obvious. I told the dealer service guys it seemed like they could have checked and re-torqued every nut and bolt under the truck in four days! I'll be taking it back in, mostly because I don't have the tools or skill set to do all that. Thanks for responding. I'll post about hope it all works out.
 
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If it was me. And I know it sucks to say this cause it’s a brand new truck. I’d crawl under it and tighten EVERYTHING. Sure sounds as if something is loose. Shock, sway bar, track bar, everything that can be tightened I’d touch it.

Yeah it definitely sucks. I agree with you though. I did tell the service guys that it seemed they could have checked and re torqued every nut and bolt under the truck in four days! I'll keep taking it back, mainly because I don't have the tools or skill set to get this right on my own. Thanks for responding.
 

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The 2 1/2” hitch was the cause of mine. If I leave the receiver in it will clunk over bumps and sound like it’s coming from the front end. Also, if I try I can make it clunk going in and out of 4 cyl mode
 
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The 2 1/2” hitch was the cause of mine. If I leave the receiver in it will clunk over bumps and sound like it’s coming from the front end. Also, if I try I can make it clunk going in and out of 4 cyl mode

Yes, that's true about the hitch adapter. I don't leave my hitch or the adapter in when I'm not trailering. The clunk/ rattle happens without the hitch adapter or hitch in the receiver, so I've eliminated that. Thanks for responding.
 

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Thanks Lee. I had read about that issue and mentioned it to the techs. Mine doesn't seem to be only when on an incline, in a "bind" or when turning left ot right. Happens on any sustained piece of rough road. I thought it might be the exhaust system rebounding and hitting against something but they reportedly checked that. I have crawled under the whole length of the truck and pulled and shook everything I could reach. Not exactly scientific but didn't notice anything obvious. I told the dealer service guys it seemed like they could have checked and re-torqued every nut and bolt under the truck in four days! I'll be taking it back in, mostly because I don't have the tools or skill set to do all that. Thanks for responding. I'll post about hope it all works out.

Hi Tim G 2019,

I’m very sorry to hear of the concern you are experiencing with your truck. Given your situation, I would be more than happy to escalate a case on your behalf for further assistance. This will allow us to ensure your concerns are formally documented, as well as connect you with a Case Specialist who can work alongside your dealer to find a potential solution. Please follow up with us via private message if this would be of interest. Hope to hear from you soon.

Mark
Ram Social Care Specialist
 

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The 2 1/2” hitch was the cause of mine. If I leave the receiver in it will clunk over bumps and sound like it’s coming from the front end. Also, if I try I can make it clunk going in and out of 4 cyl mode
Mine did the same thing.
 

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I had a rattle in my ‘18. It turned out to be one of the body mounts. They seemed to be tight but they were not properly torqued. I used my torque wrench to tighten them to, I believe, 80 ft lbs. The rattle went away and did not come back while I had the truck.
 
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I had a rattle in my ‘18. It turned out to be one of the body mounts. They seemed to be tight but they were not properly torqued. I used my torque wrench to tighten them to, I believe, 80 ft lbs. The rattle went away and did not come back while I had the truck.

Thanks! Some others have mentioned that fix as well. I have one of the Ram Social Care Specialists helping me escalate my issue and working with the dealership. We'll see how that goes and I'll post my results in this thread. Thanks for helping me!
 
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An update. I got yet another appointment with the dealership service department after a Social Care Specialist on this forum asked me to PM with details. He put me in touch with a Care Case Manager, who offered to escalate my issue. When I called the service writer I had been working with at the dealership, he was less than respectful or nice when he found out I had been talking with the Care team. I shut that attitude down right away and my position is that we should all be on the same side when trying to solve a customer problem. After all, I had just shelled out mega-bucks for a new truck that I can't enjoy because it's been in the shop for much of the time that I've owned it.

Once that exercise was done, the Care Case Manager was able to get the dealership to get serious about my problem. After four more days in the shop, the dealership called to tell me they had put some "electronic ears" on the truck and confirmed that the noise sounded like it was consistent with the right rear wheel thing I had told them about. He said the service manager had put the truck on a lift and they found a defective cab mount (which someone else on here had mentioned while trying to help). The service people told me the TSB on that problem was for trucks that were built prior to my build date and the TSB didn't cover trucks built when mine was. Still, they believe it is a bad cab mount. The dealership service department had been communicating with FCA engineers on the issue as well. This is Monday, and last Thursday the service guy told me that the new parts would take up to five days to get here. I contacted the Care Case Manager, asking her to escalate the parts order so I can get my truck back. She agreed to do so.

The truck is still in the shop and has been for seven days this time (so far). I'm waiting to see if the parts get there any quicker with a Care Case escalation. I'm hoping this is actually the problem and the issue is fixed, but won't know until I get the truck back. At this point, I can say that the dealership didn't get too aggressive about fixing my problem until I got help from the Care team to escalate this. That shouldn't be necessary to get great service, and a brand new truck shouldn't need service at all - but it is what it is. Also, why not use the electronic ears the FIRST time I had it in there to avoid all this BS?? I'll be happy to get it back without any unusual noises. Other than this one issue - i love my new truck. Guess I was spoiled, since my previous truck (Ram 1500) had zero problems for the four years I owned it.

Thanks to all you guys on here who gave me information and advice. Without that, I'd still be chasing my tail.

I'll post again with the final results once I get my truck back.
 
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My truck was in the shop for two weeks. Care case escalation seemed to do nothing in terms of speeding up the parts delivery. Still took six days. The dealer swapped out the bad cab mount. Test drive revealed the rattle still there, but the tech said the instrument read a slightly different frequency on the noise. I took the truck home to pull my boat this weekend. They have ordered all new cab mounts and bed mounts and are going to replace them all. I expect six day delivery time, then they will call me and I'll have to take it back in. I hope replacing all the mounts fixes this. The truck has been in the shop for about half the time I've owned it.
 

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My 2015 had the same issue and so does my new 2019. Hopefully they will find a fix although this issue bothers me less than the terrible squeal my truck has at start up.
 
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My 2015 had the same issue and so does my new 2019. Hopefully they will find a fix although this issue bothers me less than the terrible squeal my truck has at start up.

Mine has never squealed but that clunky rattle has about driven me over the edge. If it wasn't for that, my truck would be perfect. Maybe the dealerships will start taking this seriously since many owners seem to be experiencing the problem. I'll keep taking it back until they make it right. Not going away or giving up that easily!
 
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Well, the new cab mounts finally came in yesterday after 10 days (in fairness, labor day weekend was in there) and I took my truck in today to have them installed. I waited while they did the work and test drove it. The service writer came in and told me the noise is still present and they have another call in to the engineers. New cab mounts didn't fix the problem.

Back to square one. So whatever parts the new "fix" requires will take one or more weeks to get here and I'll have to take it in again. That means taking time off work, etc. Had the truck for two months now and it's never been right. Kind of diminishes the whole ownership experience of getting a new truck. The service department seems to be trying and the tech spoke with me and it feels like he is upset that he hasn't got it right yet. I appreciate him taking it personally like that - gives me hope. On to the next step - still no fix.
 
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Have they pulled the rear suspension and replaced the bushings on EVERYTHING?

No they haven't. They have retorqued a few things and replaced the cab and bed mounts. It's been a long process. They are now acting on whatever the star case engineers are coming up with based on the frequencies of the noise from the electronic ears and the tweaks they are making. It's been long and frustrating. I've shared everything anyone in multiple threads here has suggested. I'll pass this along too. Did you get a fix from that for your truck with a similar problem? Star case? My understanding is that they deconflict all the cases, but who knows? So many types of clunks and rattles I guess - and many types of fixes that may or may not work. Bbn I'm trying hard to be patient and let the process work. There is a limit, though.
 

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Checked back in on this thread again this evening and I'm following it now. I'm almost as anxious as you to see this issue come to a conclusion, as well as the fix required. Unbelievable, but at least the tech is taking the matter personally.

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I assume the spare tire has been checked for tightness?
 
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