Power Wagon 18’ or 19’!!??

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Guys I’m debating on selling my built Tacoma in and joining the mopar clan!! Im trying to steal a leftover 18’ off of a dealers lot.. There are quite a few left over in my area.. that being said, I’m hearing a lot of chatter about the 19s with the ZF trans!! I am not one to buy anything on in its first year (usually wait a couple years for them to iron the bugs out) question is: what’s the consensus on the new ones?? Should i wait a few moths and get a leftover 19’ or try to scoop up an 18’ on the cheap?? I’m leaning towards the 18’ b/c that configuration has been around for a bit.. anyways lemme know

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I picked up a 19 because of a few engine tweaks, 8 speed tranny, the 12’ screen, rope instead of cable on the winch, lifted front end, and better looking head lights.
 

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There is no way in hell I would go with the ‘18, only because of the trans. I dont care what it would cost, I would pay 10 grand more for a new one vs the leftover.

Although this is the first year for the trans in the hd, it has been around for years and has proven itself. I would worry more about other stuff like electronics within the truck itself (even with an ‘18), rather than the trans. And ****** a/c lol.

Good luck with your decision!
 

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I’m pretty happy with my 6 spd as a daily driver. There’s the occasional clunk when I confuse it, but overall it’s been solid for just over 20K miles. Being honest I could get the 8 spd in my 2014 1500 to do the same thing, and I still consider that one of the best transmissions I’ve owned. If you prefer the 4th gen front end, and cable vs rope, don’t let the 6 spd scare you away.


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There is no way in hell I would go with the ‘18, only because of the trans. I dont care what it would cost, I would pay 10 grand more for a new one vs the leftover.

Although this is the first year for the trans in the hd, it has been around for years and has proven itself. I would worry more about other stuff like electronics within the truck itself (even with an ‘18), rather than the trans. And ****** a/c lol.

Good luck with your decision!
What are the negatives about the 6spd??
 

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Guess it depends on the truck, or the driver, my '18 has been great, once the teething issues with electronics were ironed out. I bought the 18 specifically to avoid the 19, the tranny would be a big draw if you did a lot of long haul driving I suppose, but I prefer the looks of the 18 to the 19...and of course there is that nasty dial shifter...which I guess for a road driver it is fine....but I'm not convinced it is gonna be very good for off roading....but Time will tell!
I don't honestly think you can make a wrong decision here, the cosmetics are a small issue in the scheme of things, but it can be the deciding factor when all is said and done.
Let us know what you end up with!!
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There is no way in hell I would go with the ‘18, only because of the trans. I dont care what it would cost, I would pay 10 grand more for a new one vs the leftover.

Although this is the first year for the trans in the hd, it has been around for years and has proven itself. I would worry more about other stuff like electronics within the truck itself (even with an ‘18), rather than the trans. And ****** a/c lol.

Good luck with your decision!
The 8spd is amazing. I can only imagine in the pw. I’ll admit I may have been wrong about dial shifter though. I’ve been in my wife’s a few times backing up and turning around and doing it quickly with the shifts and truck gives me the shift to p error. I’ve never had this happen with my column shifter. Sooooo I’d be curious how it will hold up if you need to rock the truck to get loose. You almost have to come to a stop to get it to work right. That’s be my only issue I see. And I was one who didn’t think it would be an issue and now I’m eating crow lol. But man 8spd is fantastic
 

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I have a 17. Average 12.5 in winter if i'm really nice to it. Summer around 13-13.5.. With the 8 speed and updated electronics on the 19's, i'm debating the upgrade. Significantly quicker, 16.5mpg!?! That's crazy with a truck this big.
 

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The column shifter like the gas pedal is no longer connected with linkage and cables. Most companies use contacts within the column. I don’t believe you will get away from the dial idea in newer trucks...
The GPS is slightly better and the low (1st) gear is really low. I have already been off road and got a chance to use it in 4hi and 4lo.

Being a PW tread, I don’t think you will need to rock the truck to get unstuck... referring to just an HD, I can see this point being made.


If you are Baja-ing with the Raptor the 19 has an edge on the 18.
You won’t get many 19 PW owners to respond since there are not many yet.
 

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The column shifter like the gas pedal is no longer connected with linkage and cables. Most companies use contacts within the column. I don’t believe you will get away from the dial idea in newer trucks...
The GPS is slightly better and the low (1st) gear is really low. I have already been off road and got a chance to use it in 4hi and 4lo.

Being a PW tread, I don’t think you will need to rock the truck to get unstuck... referring to just an HD, I can see this point being made.


If you are Baja-ing with the Raptor the 19 has an edge on the 18.
You won’t get many 19 PW owners to respond since there are not many yet.
You implying a pw never gets stuck lol
 

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I have a 17. Average 12.5 in winter if i'm really nice to it. Summer around 13-13.5.. With the 8 speed and updated electronics on the 19's, i'm debating the upgrade. Significantly quicker, 16.5mpg!?! That's crazy with a truck this big.

Not a lot of data yet but not sure where you’re getting 16.5 mpg coming from the ‘19s. I consider fuelly one of the more reliable sources and the reports so far are nowhere near 16.5. Also bear in mind this search did not focus on the PW, which gets worse mpg due to the height and tires...

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19's are a completely different truck compared to the 6 speed.
 
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I was trying to suggest that. I doubt I will let anyone know when I do... but if/when I use my winch to pull someone else out I will post up pictures haha.
I’ve got stuck in my 2500 once. On a rock lol. And I guarantee a pw would got hung up on it too haha. Granted I’m running thuren stuff and 35’s. Hopefully 37’s cure that
 

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https://www.tfltruck.com/2019/05/20...ent-it-is-than-the-previous-generation-video/

The new 2019 Power Wagon surprised with a 16.4 MPG highway fuel efficiency result. This is a huge improvement from 12.3 MPG that we got with a 2017 Power Wagon two years ago. This is a 25% improvement on our test.

We also saw a big improvement in the 0-60 MPH times. The old 2017 Power Wagon clocked in a 9.75 sec 0-60 MPH run (at a mile above sea level). The new 2019 truck measured at 8.12 seconds. This is a 16% improvement.
 

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Not a lot of data yet but not sure where you’re getting 16.5 mpg coming from the ‘19s. I consider fuelly one of the more reliable sources and the reports so far are nowhere near 16.5. Also bear in mind this search did not focus on the PW, which gets worse mpg due to the height and tires...

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Here is a picture of my gpm on a mini trip I took in July but tomorrow I will be taking the PW on a 3100 mile round trip so I will have all the data you need for GPM. As I will be in 8 states and from sea level to 8k feet. (Or the highest I can get in the Smoky Mountains)

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