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So after weeks of mulling over white knuckle or Maple Offroad I finally pulled the trigger on the Maples. First and foremost Neil at Maple was absolutely amazing with his customer service. I will definitely be buying more from Maple. I had a tight timeline to get these installed before my camping trip this Wednesday so after talking to Neil via email he assured me he could get them to me and he nailed it. Plus side to me ordering Maple in the beginning was price, 1)cheaper by about $50 total after shipping, 2) timeline, 3) shipping service was UPS which had a frieght location 20 min from my house.

I went with the full top plate on mine with no coating as I was gonna raptor line them. Last Thursday I picked them up from UPS.

I sanded, with 80 grit, thoroughly cleaned and laid acid etch primer first. Let that cure for a day. Then I wiped down again and laid down the raptor liner. I bought their kit that includes the gun. This stuff sprayed surprisingly well, I used a 6 gallon Craftsman pancake compressor. Laid two coats of raptor then let the wait begin for it to cure.

Week later I got to installing. Very straight forward. Driver's side was a bit of a *****. First on odd years like mine (2017) Neil warned me of a bundle of brake lines and wiring harness that runs along the frame. First you must take off a plastic bracket that houses the brake lines and pull it away from the frame this is near the front bracket closest to the fender. I used a piece furring strip to wedge behind it to give me room to work. I ended up doing this all myself having a buddy would help alot. I found center of the slider and laid it on my Jack and carefully lifted into place. After getting it close I put ratchet straps around it to help secure it in case it flipped off my Jack. The rear two brackets were very tight to get to. Having skinny arms would've helped getting to the top bolt on the bracket near the fuel tank. The brake line bundle must be pulled away from the frame from these areas as well to slide the backing plate behind them. I snugged the middle bracket and made sure the slider was in position I wanted and snugged the other two brackets. Then I went back and torqued evenly to 80ftlbs. This side took me about 2 hours that included taking off my old steps.

Passenger side was a breeze took maybe 25-30 min tops. Only real interference was a unused grounding stud that needs to be cut off. After that's cut off it's clear sailing. Removing the floor cubby would make getting to one of the bracket bolts a little easier but I was to far in and just struggled around it...lol All in all thoroughly impressed with these. Definitely able to jack the truck up with these. Install was maybe a 5-6 on toughness scale for someone with decent mechanical skills. I work in power plants so I'm used to working in crappy spots.

There is about a 1/2"-3/4" gap in between them and the body. I couldn't get my fingers in but I also have bushwacker rocker panel protection on there.

I opted for the standard size width on the rub rail. I will say of you want a true step the standard width won't be for you. I would definitely talk to Neil about widening that area. You can step on it but there isn't alot there. I will try and get measurements later today. One thing I may do is find some rubber and put it in between the brake lines and the backing plates.

All in all this probably is my most well built stout thing I've bought for my truck. These are worth every penny. Fit, fabrication, and customer service was all stellar. Love these sliders, Maple Wagon FTW!!5754259908530a931769af55532dde8c.jpg5fb1c73b9c9038c57dd540f9534907d2.jpg3489ab41598ba0657b66bdc28bde5fd1.jpg7ac08a5a62a8ae931309a5937be7248e.jpg9bcb1ca3a842633fc615a82c43d02595.jpg3cdf8772b45b9b11b13834a56495c943.jpgfd0735764ab0f60923726eedd61e3a50.jpg6a1646c7341220902b2282a396f4fc85.jpg844a2f245a4ede936e66d69ca34743d9.jpgcb920de861f7307d79a48142cd7de40e.jpgb662f32122302c317ff2bf0f57308583.jpgcc196299426551091a7d0a0e31fd2cde.jpga605b078acb6c24f113c9b077c72ba16.jpg

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Those look great. I've had my 2019 PW for about a week now, and steps/sliders are the only thing on my list that i want to change. I'm not crazy about the looks of the stock steps. I really like the looks of the White Knuckle sliders without the top plate, but seeing these on your truck, they look good with the top plate. Do you know why White Knuckle bolts theirs on while Maple (appears) to weld there's?

i'm also considering a set of amp power steps. I know the amp steps will be easier to get in and out of, and give it a different look. I have a 2 year old so I know as she grows she'd appreciate the amp steps more. I also like the protection that comes with the sliders, even though I'm likely not to do any serious off roading any time soon. The protection from door dings, careless drivers, etc. seem beneficial.

From getting in and out, if you imagine it without a top plate is it doable? Any flaws in my logic that would lean me one way or another?
 
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Those look great. I've had my 2019 PW for about a week now, and steps/sliders are the only thing on my list that i want to change. I'm not crazy about the looks of the stock steps. I really like the looks of the White Knuckle sliders without the top plate, but seeing these on your truck, they look good with the top plate. Do you know why White Knuckle bolts theirs on while Maple (appears) to weld there's?

i'm also considering a set of amp power steps. I know the amp steps will be easier to get in and out of, and give it a different look. I have a 2 year old so I know as she grows she'd appreciate the amp steps more. I also like the protection that comes with the sliders, even though I'm likely not to do any serious off roading any time soon. The protection from door dings, careless drivers, etc. seem beneficial.

From getting in and out, if you imagine it without a top plate is it doable? Any flaws in my logic that would lean me one way or another?
Definitely doable without the top plate, I would certainly suggest getting them with an extended rub rail.

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Are the WKO sliders wider in the "step" area? These are definetly too narrow for my taste. I like them but I would need wider for trixie

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Are the WKO sliders wider in the "step" area? These are definetly too narrow for my taste. I like them but I would need wider for trixie

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Reading the thread I posted below looks like WK is standard with a 3" wide area. I will measure mine when I get home. I'm sure Neil at Maple would accomadate a request for a wider rub rail. I know one member here has WK that he custom ordered with a wider step.

Here's the thread...

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Install of White Knuckle Off Road Rock Sliders, full top plate- .188 DOM round tube 2”x4” black

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Here's some pics of the step area. Also you have a little play to drop them down which could allow you to get a little more footing. The full width is 6.5" but most of it get tucked under the rocker panelc10fb35bd7df656aa818de8bf416e34c.jpgef0ee122e5a8900628b8326f83d32fc5.jpg

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Thanks mailgator for the pics. As high up as my truck is I definetly will need the "step" area wider. Probably 8-10" out from rockers. I definetly like the skin coating and will be doing that when I can afford to buy either these or WKO. I am still unsure about the top plate just because of the amount if mud that will collect when going mudding. I think the open design will fit me better since I dont want to spend 20 minutes pressure washing the underside lol. It already takes me 1 hour to wash the truck cause I have to use a tough box to reach the windshield and I have to hop (literally jump up) into the bed and get the roof. Thank god for the foam cannon.

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Thanks mailgator for the pics. As high up as my truck is I definetly will need the "step" area wider. Probably 8-10" out from rockers. I definetly like the skin coating and will be doing that when I can afford to buy either these or WKO. I am still unsure about the top plate just because of the amount if mud that will collect when going mudding. I think the open design will fit me better since I dont want to spend 20 minutes pressure washing the underside lol. It already takes me 1 hour to wash the truck cause I have to use a tough box to reach the windshield and I have to hop (literally jump up) into the bed and get the roof. Thank god for the foam cannon.

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I havent really washed my roof in almost 8 months [emoji23] I just kinda spray it off bc I never feel like trying to get underneath my roof rack

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I havent really washed my roof in almost 8 months [emoji23] I just kinda spray it off bc I never feel like trying to get underneath my roof rack

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Pressure washer and foam cannon? That would be better than nothing.. I'd love a roof rack but I have the sunroof. And I like seeing the sky when it's open.

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Pressure washer and foam cannon? That would be better than nothing.. I'd love a roof rack but I have the sunroof. And I like seeing the sky when it's open.

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I do foam cannon it and pressure wash it. My detailing has gotten super lazy. My 1500 was immaculate, my wagon Ive kinda developed the "screw it, it's a truck" attitude

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I do foam cannon it and pressure wash it. My detailing has gotten super lazy. My 1500 was immaculate, my wagon Ive kinda developed the "screw it, it's a truck" attitude

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I cant even fathom that thought.. knowing this truck will cost me over 70k after interest I can't let it go. Hell the dirt road I live off of makes me go mental when I get mud on her. I'm washing her tomorrow. I wanted to wash it the same day but it was down in the 40's and I'm not waxing in the cold. Its low 70's this week so I'll wash it tomorrow.

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Nice write up @Maligator ! I was looking forward to it. I love the kick out by the rear wheel too. I think a front kick out may look goofy but would keep the front wheels from slinging debris if one has a wider tire or more negative offset. you are running 13.5 right? So you would know. Does maple not off to coat it? Or is it not cost effective?
 
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Nice write up @Maligator ! I was looking forward to it. I love the kick out by the rear wheel too. I think a front kick out may look goofy but would keep the front wheels from slinging debris if one has a wider tire or more negative offset. you are running 13.5 right? So you would know. Does maple not off to coat it? Or is it not cost effective?
I'm running 12.5 wide's on a +18mm offset. They do offer a black epoxy coating, I opted for the bare steel so I could raptor line and use the touch up spray cans as needed when the get scratched up

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I'm running 12.5 wide's on a +18mm offset. They do offer a black epoxy coating, I opted for the bare steel so I could raptor line and use the touch up spray cans as needed when the get scratched up

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Oh I see.
Your slides have the same step my OEM do so I don’t think I would want/need it wider. Get it too wide, rock would gain leverage.

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Oh I see.
Your slides have the same step my OEM do so I don’t think I would want/need it wider. Get it too wide, rock would gain leverage.

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That picture is a little decieving the total width of the area is tucked under the rockers quite a bit. from the pic looking down on top of them you can see how narrow the foot area is. You lose quite a bit with what your rocker panels cover. Also your factory steps also drop down a bit from the rockers giving you more foot area

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That picture is a little decieving the total width of the area is tucked under the rockers quite a bit. from the pic looking down on top of them you can see how narrow the foot area is. You lose quite a bit with what your rocker panels cover. Also your factory steps also drop down a bit from the rockers giving you more foot area

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Oh yeah, you are right.
 
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Snapped this one leaving work today, doesn't bother me but I know my wife is going to hate it...lolfc82f6e0dbbde36e352d61a85906a3d9.jpg

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Yeah not much there to step on. Looks doable get in to the truck but useless as a step to get out.
My wife is 5’4 so I would need 2-3 more inches for her not to hate my $1200 purchase.
(“That’s what she said” yeah yeah)

Like you said, I’m sure Maple can accommodate this request. maybe make the flare out at the rear tire the same width throughout.
 
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Mods if possible could this be moved back to the Power wagon section. It's pretty useless being buried in the 4th Gen exterior section when these sliders are power wagon specific. Just feel like the info would be more easily found there.
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Mods if possible could this be moved back to the Power wagon section. It's pretty useless being buried in the 4th Gen exterior section when these sliders are power wagon specific. Just feel like the info would be more easily found there.
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I agree 100%. This should be moved back to the Power Wagon forum. I found this thread on a google search, despite lurking on this forum for several weeks.

I am looking to order a set of the Maple sliders. My 85yr old Father-in-law lives with us, and I need a usable step for him to enter the truck. I'm thinking of adding an inch or so to the sliders if I can. I like the aesthetics of the bump out, so I'm hoping to keep that if possible. It appears the standard sliders are about 5.5" out from the body, and the stock steps are about 7" out from the body. I'm not too concerned with the higher step, but I would like to make sure the step is wide enough for proper foot placement.

Also, I have a 2020, but I am thinking about the higher placement of the 2018 setup. Has anyone removed the little trim piece on the '19 or '20 to accommodate the higher slider setup?

Waiting to hear back from Maple Offroad, but really hoping to get these ordered this week.

Oh and thank you for all your pictures and info.
 
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