Worried about failed lifters? Read this.

[seabrook]

LOL I was just being sarcastic

 

[Fitz-0518]

And they don't need to invent the QC methods, W. Edwards Deming handed it out years ago, right after WWII. He tried to sell GM, Ford, et al on it but then like GM said, "They'll buy it anyway". So he took his methods to the Japanese mfgr's. They accepted his method of statistical sampling and it made them into top quality producers. I am old enough to remember laughing about the cheap crap that came out Japan in the 1950's before the Deming Method got fully implemented. His motto: "Quality is free". One of Japan's top mfgr's quality awards is the "Deming Award". This is old news.

Great example and real world point. I watched a documentary on Deming. "He" flipped the quality issue on Japanese cars. Great reminder. Doubt that the managers running the big 3 today even know of him. They certainly don't give a damn about quality. It is all about economic value. Today, they believe quality has no value. The consumer buying habits have convinced them that what counts is style, price and I want it now.

 

[Rug_Trucker]

"Hello McFly!!!!" Uhhh you bought a FIAT, And you are surprised?

 

[69GWC]

"Hello McFly!!!!" Uhhh you bought a FIAT, And you are surprised?

Comments like this get old. Just Stupid.

 

[Marshall]

EXACTLY apples and oranges. He even states about the valve lash causing the hammering - hydraulic lifters have no lash.

But if the bearing is going out , you may be getting some then? 5/20, 5/30 will not make a different I would think, if you have a noisy lifter, it is screwed already, heavy oil will not fix it.

 

[Wild one]

Comments like this get old. Just Stupid.

I agree 69. Always that 1 guy though that comes through with some sort of dumb comment,lol.

 

[cptnmurff]

Owner's Manual states:

Engine Oil – 5.7L Engine For 1500 trucks:
RAM 1500 5.7 HEMI use 5W-20

Engine Oil – 5.7L Engine For 2500/3500 trucks operating under a gross combined weight rating greater than 14,000 lbs/(6,350 kg.):
Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI use 5W-30
Ram 3500 5.7 HEMI use 5W-30

For the same 5.7 HEMI V8 why the difference in oil... 20 vs 30 ?

 

[Wild one]

Owner's Manual states:

Engine Oil – 5.7L Engine For 1500 trucks:
RAM 1500 5.7 HEMI use 5W-20

Engine Oil – 5.7L Engine For 2500/3500 trucks operating under a gross combined weight rating greater than 14,000 lbs/(6,350 kg.):
Ram 2500 5.7 HEMI use 5W-30
Ram 3500 5.7 HEMI use 5W-30

For the same 5.7 HEMI V8 why the difference in oil... 20 vs 30 ?

Heavy Duty 5.7's don't have MDS.FCA also states in the big 700 page printed manuals for the 1500's before 2017 that it's acceptable to use 5W-30 if 5W-20 meeting Mopars MS specs isn't available.They also state 5W-20 is the best for gas milege,nowhere do they state its the best for engine longevity and i'd hazard a guess if they thought 5W-20 was best for engine longevity they'd be touting it. Do a search on here,somebodies already posted the page from the big manual showing where they say you can use 5W-30 in a 1500's 5.7 if 5W-20 isn't available.

 

[Killerbee4649]

That’s it, I’ve had it with my lifters! I’m trying Astroglide! Lol

 

[MADDOG]

Gentlemen,

Let's be civil and cease with the personal attacks here. Everyone who has an opinion or comment to make has the right to post on the forum. You may not agree with what was posted but that does not justify attacking the OP.

Of course, some opinions and comments that get posted do leave one to wonder just what it was all about. :|

 

[indept]

That’s it, I’ve had it with my lifters! I’m trying Astroglide! Lol

I've heard that using Astroglide causes these trucks to moan......

 

[indept]

As for idling not being an issue, our trucks at idle run at about 30 psi oil pressure when warm and 50+ psi above idle. Last year when at the dealer for the tailgate recall I was shooting the **** with the service manager and he said that they have seen a couple of trucks with failure there over the years but they have seen a ton of 5.7L cam failures in police cars which they blame on too much idling which causes sustained low oil flow due to low pressure.

 

[RVGuy]

As for idling not being an issue, our trucks at idle run at about 30 psi oil pressure when warm and 50+ psi above idle. Last year when at the dealer for the tailgate recall I was shooting the **** with the service manager and he said that they have seen a couple of trucks with failure there over the years but they have seen a ton of 5.7L cam failures in police cars which they blame on too much idling which causes sustained low oil flow due to low pressure.

I agree with this. Idling isn't ideal for any modern engine, you're wracking up wear and tear at less than optimal conditions while the odometer sits still.

I also try to prevent my truck from putting around at 1000rpm, if any of you have driven a manual 4 banger and tried to accelerate at 1000rpm you know what lugging an engine feels like. Have you tried to accelerate with these trucks at 1000rpm with very light throttle? If it's in V4 mode it feels an awful lot like lugging, I don't see how it's good for any part of the engine to be doing that. I lock my trans in the 1:1 gear, which is 4th on my 6 speed, to prevent it from happening.
I'm not saying that this is directly related to the whole lifter thing, but who knows?

 

[kurek]

Even if an hour of idling was no different from an hour of cruising it's still an hour of operation not recorded on the odometer.

 

[indept]

Even if an hour of idling was no different from an hour of cruising it's still an hour of operation not recorded on the odometer.

But it is recorded in the hours screen in the driver display.

 

[jawzs2]

The odometer records distance, not hours of operation.

 

[ripping r]

The odometer records distance, not hours of operation.

true. but we do have hour meters that records drive time and idle time.

 

[kurek]

How many times have you seen the actual contents of the hour meter screen in a conversation about lifters?

If the information is withheld then for all practical purposes it doesn't exist

 

[RVGuy]

My hour metre is so wrong it isn't funny.
My odometer is wrong too but I at least know how far off it is.

 

[indept]

How many times have you seen the actual contents of the hour meter screen in a conversation about lifters?

If the information is withheld then for all practical purposes it doesn't exist

I started a post last year asking for idle vs run hours for those with failed lifters but it fizzled out.