Pondering spark plug change

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My previous spark plug changes for the 5.7's were supposed to be done every 35k miles. After the first change the plugs still looked new and decided that was excessive. Now my 6.4 shows to change them every 100k. There is no mention of hours. My truck has 74k on it with 1844 hours. Most of which is towing fairly heavy. That indicates an average speed of 40 MPH. All things considered is it time to change the plugs? Just pull one as an indicator of condition?
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i would pull 1 and see what they look like.

My old 5.7l also had the 30k interval... It never saw new plugs until 100K. And they STILL looked good. i changed them regardless because i figured after 100k. it deserved at least new plugs lol.
 

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OM say's first change 100K mi. Unless they are fouling or you're changing to aftermarket, no need to.

Are you having misfires or other drivability issues?
 
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I think I paid around $700 for the dealer to do it. If I remember right the plugs are around $10/each and there are 16 (2 per cylinder). So, $550 for dealer time is probably 3ish hours?
 

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My previous spark plug changes for the 5.7's were supposed to be done every 35k miles. After the first change the plugs still looked new and decided that was excessive. Now my 6.4 shows to change them every 100k. There is no mention of hours. My truck has 74k on it with 1844 hours. Most of which is towing fairly heavy. That indicates an average speed of 40 MPH. All things considered is it time to change the plugs? Just pull one as an indicator of condition?
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Just make sure the center electrode and ground strap still have square or sharp corners,and the gap isn't opened up to much.If the center electrode and ground strap have rounded off corners or shoulders,put new plugs in.
 
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OM say's first change 100K mi. Unless they are fouling or you're changing to aftermarket, no need to.

Are you having misfires or other drivability issues?

No issues and it is running great.
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I think I paid around $700 for the dealer to do it. If I remember right the plugs are around $10/each and there are 16 (2 per cylinder). So, $550 for dealer time is probably 3ish hours?

I need to change them myself. Even if it takes me 5 hours I will be saving 550.00 or about 110.00 an hour. I wish I could have made that much money when I worked.
 

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I need to change them myself. Even if it takes me 5 hours I will be saving 550.00 or about 110.00 an hour. I wish I could have made that much money when I worked.

I don't know about regular 2500, but the PWs are a bear to work on. I saw a "top side creeper" on "Trucks" and thinking about getting one, but have yet to do it. It seems like it would be helluva lot better than on step stool.
 

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I did mine at about 70k. They looked ok but the gap was about.042. My biggest concern was leaving plugs that long and having issues getting them out. That's most of the reason I did it early. You definitely need short, long and swivel extensions. It is a pain and will take a good 4 hours. Just need patience.

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I did mine at about 70k. They looked ok but the gap was about.042. My biggest concern was leaving plugs that long and having issues getting them out. That's most of the reason I did it early. You definitely need short, long and swivel extensions. It is a pain and will take a good 4 hours. Just need patience.

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I plan to replace mine at 50K, just to ensure adequate amounts of anti seize. I had the 30K 5.7 Hemi's too. On the trucks I pulled the coils and plugs from front to back then installed in reverse. Seemed to give me more room to work around vacuum booster on the left and A/C doins on the right
 

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I did my 6.4 just a couple of months ago. It took right about 2.5-3 hours to do it. Most of that really was because the truck sits so high and needed to take breaks when doing the rears. Laying across the top does not feel good at all and as it was already mentioned a top side creeper would benefit greatly but you do what you have to do.
It’s no harder if not easier than doing the 5.7 which I done when I had my half ton. Just have some beer in the fridge and take your time.


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A couple of years ago I changed the plugs in my 2005 Rumble Bee's 5.7, what a PITA. I also have an '82 Dodge Rampage so I parked the Bee in front of the tailgate of the Rampage, allowing me to stand on the tailgate while changing plugs. I used a thick pool floating pad to lay on while leaning over the engine, which helped a little. I bought the truck about a year before, and when I pulled the first plug I was sure the plugs have never been changed, about 110,000 miles. I was having to use a breaker bar to loosen many of the plugs, and was going well until the very last rear plug on the driver's side...it snapped off. The porcelain and the upper metal hex section came out, leaving the threaded section (and a hole into the combustion chamber) in the head. I was able to get an easy-out into it (after removing the valve cover), but no room to apply any kind of leverage to allow the easy-out to grip as that section of the head is in a tunnel. After several days of trying I decided the only way it was coming out of there, aside from paying someone else to do it, was to pull off the head. The easy-out worked perfect once the head was off.

Moral of the story: don't wait for 100k, at least check them around 50k, and use anti-seize!!!
 

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Hmmm

my service manual says Change the non platinum plugs every 30,000 miles, and the platinum plugs every 100,000 miles.
 

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I just hit 86k on mine and checked one plug today. Plug looked good but the gap was at .052 so I ordered some ngk iridiums. That'll be next weekends project. Granted it was only one I took out I dont think it'll be too bad. Just pull my polaris sportsman up next to the side im working on. Put a piece of styrofoam down on the front rack for the knees and have at it.
 
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Where would somebody shop for one of those "topside creepers" you guys mentioned?
 

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I've got a 2014 laramie. Just turned 109,000. I was debating changing the plugs. It still runs like a bull, starts right up. Gas mileage sucks but always has.
Judging by the posts here I guess I should just let it be.
I actually had a shop quote me $14.65 a plug. (OEM) Change the PVC, Trans fluid, transfer case oil. Total around $1,100.
 

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I just hit 86k on mine and checked one plug today. Plug looked good but the gap was at .52 so I ordered some ngk iridiums. That'll be next weekends project. Granted it was only one I took out I dont think it'll be too bad. Just pull my polaris sportsman up next to the side im working on. Put a piece of styrofoam down on the front rack for the knees and have at it.

Over 1/2" gap? Wow!
 

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Leave them run. The computer will throw a check engine light if there is any misfire. My biggest issue with leaving them in for 100k is they may be a pain to get out....but worse case there, is have the dealer do it and it’s their problem.
 
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