Lift to keep factory rake

[brihvac]

I am getting ready to purchase a Big Horn and want to use a set of 20" Fuel wheels with 35's I have. I want the smallest lift I have to get to clear the tires HOWEVER I want to keep the factory rake because I hate the way trucks squat when there is something in the bed
Suggestions

 

[thkbaron]

put air bags in it for when you are towing. the 1/2 tons need them anyways. Get some Bilsteins up front and some bags for the bag. If you wanna keep the rake you'd have to lift both the back and the front.

 

[brihvac]

put air bags in it for when you are towing. the 1/2 tons need them anyways. Get some Bilsteins up front and some bags for the bag. If you wanna keep the rake you'd have to lift both the back and the front.

Not really a fan of air bags. Maybe I will just sell my Fuel wheels and 35's and get a set of Rebel wheels. Decisions...

 

[thkbaron]

why don't you like air bags? They don't affect your ride when you don't have air in them. You just air them up to lift your back end when you are loaded. The in coil HD ones that air lift makes are super cheap and easy to install.

 

[crazy jerry]

maybe he just doesnt like the level look ? some of us think leveling looks stupid

 

[DILLIGAF]

These rams squat when the fuel tank is full...lol...

Timbrens fix that issue

 

[ram1500rsm]

You can get ORP springs to lift your butt 1" or Eibach has a set of 1" springs for the 5th gen truck. little cheaper than the ORP springs too, Eibach E30-27-011-02-02

 

[Quick_Shifter]

I am getting ready to purchase a Big Horn and want to use a set of 20" Fuel wheels with 35's I have. I want the smallest lift I have to get to clear the tires HOWEVER I want to keep the factory rake because I hate the way trucks squat when there is something in the bed
Suggestions

Bilsteins up front with top gunz coil spacer in the rear with bilsteins. We would need before measurements to determine how much the rear needs to be lifted. A replacement rear coil would most likely be necessary if you want the factory rake. Most people leave the rear 1"-1.5" high

 

[Don_T]

I just installed a Mopar lift on my new 2020 1500. It still has a rake very much like the factory setup. I installed it as ordered without adding ORP springs or any additional spacers.

 

[jay w]

^^ Yes, the Mopar lift retains the stock rake! ^^

 

[Dakota2020]

I used Bilsteins set at 2.8 and Icon rear coils. I have about an inch of rake.

 

[ram1500rsm]

I used Bilsteins set at 2.8 and Icon rear coils. I have about an inch of rake.

ORP or non-ORP ? According to Icon with ORP you only get about .5" with the Icon coils.

 

[Dakota2020]

ORP or non-ORP ? According to Icon with ORP you only get about .5" with the Icon coils.

After the front settled a bit, it’s around 1”. It was leveled at first.

 

[ram1500rsm]

After the front settled a bit, it’s around 1”. It was leveled at first.

So you have the ORP springs ?

 

[Dakota2020]

So you have the ORP springs ?

It’s these:
1.5” springs
https://www.bilsteinlifts.com/shop/...MIs8DKm5q97AIVi8DACh2FzQPyEAQYAiABEgKb4_D_BwE

 

[ram1500rsm]

It’s these:
1.5” springs
https://www.bilsteinlifts.com/shop/...MIs8DKm5q97AIVi8DACh2FzQPyEAQYAiABEgKb4_D_BwE

Yep I know those. I'd think your truck didn't have ORP springs before then. Rebels have them for example, North edition have them, some Laramies, Big Horns etc. The package lifted the truck 1" over non-ORP via longer springs front and rear.
The non-ORP springs in the rear for example are 19" long. ORP ones are 20.5

You can measure your stockers if you still have them. Icon Coils are 19.5" long but progressive instead of the factory linear ones and their spring rate is a tad higher than ORP as indicated by Icon. If you're getting one more inch with respect of what you had before then I'll think you have non-ORP springs.

You'll be able to carry weight with less sag with those Icon coils with respect of the factory ones and I think they're priced better than the ORP rear ones as well.

 

[Dakota2020]

Yep I know those. I'd think your truck didn't have ORP springs before then. Rebels have them for example, North edition have them, some Laramies, Big Horns etc. The package lifted the truck 1" over non-ORP via longer springs front and rear.
The non-ORP springs in the rear for example are 19" long. ORP ones are 20.5

You can measure your stockers if you still have them. Icon Coils are 19.5" long but progressive instead of the factory linear ones and their spring rate is a tad higher than ORP as indicated by Icon. If you're getting one more inch with respect of what you had before then I'll think you have non-ORP springs.

You'll be able to carry weight with less sag with those Icon coils with respect of the factory ones and I think they're priced better than the ORP rear ones as well.

I had the standard factory that came with the sport edition of 2012 so the Icons were a quite a bit taller when the springs were pulled for the Icons. I don’t know if the springs were a bit compressed from towing because I purchased it a couple of years ago. The rear bumper is beat up pretty bad which indicates to me that the previous owner towed often.
This is how it sits now, it has a slight rake to it mine is on the right next to a stock suspension my neighbor has.

 

[ram1500rsm]

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I had the standard factory that came with the sport edition of 2012 so the Icons were a quite a bit taller when the springs were pulled for the Icons. I don’t know if the springs were a bit compressed from towing because I purchased it a couple of years ago. The rear bumper is beat up pretty bad which indicates to me that the previous owner towed often.
This is how it sits now, it has a slight rake to it mine is on the right next to a stock suspension my neighbor has.

You have a DS truck. The coil springs length and specs are different between our DS trucks and the new DT trucks.

This is the 5th gen 1500 (DT) suspension section. If you lifted the rear of your 4th gen with Icon coils nobody in this section will get much from your post. In terms of coils that can fit, the Icons do fit the back of the DT trucks but we won't know the actual lift you can get from them until somebody with a DT tries them.

I though you had a DT 4 doors. Icon has said the new trucks might see a 0.5" lift if you have the ORP springs which is why I've been indicating lengths and possible outcomes when it comes to lift between the 2 springs..

I think it's possible for the non-ORP fellas to get 1" maybe 1.5" with the Icons springs. But somebody with a new truck will have to try them. They're cheaper than ORP springs and should have better weight support.

 

[Dakota2020]

You have a DS truck. The coil springs length and specs are different between our DS trucks and the new DT trucks.

This is the 5th gen 1500 (DT) suspension section. If you lifted the rear of your 4th gen with Icon coils nobody in this section will get much from your post. In terms of coils that can fit, the Icons do fit the back of the DT trucks but we won't know the actual lift you can get from them until somebody with a DT tries them.

I though you had a DT 4 doors. Icon has said the new trucks might see a 0.5" lift if you have the ORP springs which is why I've been indicating lengths and possible outcomes when it comes to lift between the 2 springs..

I think it's possible for the non-ORP fellas to get 1" maybe 1.5" with the Icons springs. But somebody with a new truck will have to try them. They're cheaper than ORP springs and should have better weight support.

Is the OP talking about a new Rebel? Or a DS Warlock? In which case either way yes the springs are different. Are there height differences between the new and the old? Doesn’t appear to be unless you get a Rebel or it is ordered special.

 

[ram1500rsm]

Is the OP talking about a new Rebel? Or a DS Warlock? In which case either way yes the springs are different. Are there height differences between the new and the old? Doesn’t appear to be unless you get a Rebel or it is ordered special.

DS warlock wouldn't belong in this section.but the op is asking for long horn

DS rear springs are 18.25" long. DT standard rear springs are 19" long.
DT ORP rear springs are 20.5" long. Leveling DT ORP or non ORP achieves different heights