Synthetic Oil

Oil of Choice

  • Castrol Syntec/Edge

    Votes: 233 8.4%
  • Royal Purple

    Votes: 325 11.7%
  • AMSOil

    Votes: 396 14.3%
  • Valvoline Synpower

    Votes: 160 5.8%
  • Mobil 1

    Votes: 992 35.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 660 23.9%

  • Total voters
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Travis8352

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RedLine has what, 400ppm Trimer Moly? Yes, it's Trimer Moly, contrary to whatever the "Gods" on BITOG will tell you. Also, on BITOG the mistaken notion that 200ppm Trimer is the max effective treatment rate is wrong. The moly count in Trimer has to do with the number of Mo-S bonds. That info is in the Infineum patent by the way (it expired). Anyway, it's highly friction modified and uses an Ester-based additive system. It's made like a classic ACEA A3/B4 motor oil, but with more of everything and higher quality ingredients. In fact, RedLine will add gobs of friction modifiers to just about anything, even their ATF. Also, I'm 200% sure that Moly is not the only one RedLine uses in their engine oil.

So, I read that BS claim as well. Whatever Mickey Mouse Milk is in those 15W-50 jugs, there is no way it can be better than Red Line. Maybe the BND guy paid him off to save face. After all, the guy grenanded his HEMI with the help of Blackstone Labs as well. They kept encouraging him to run longer OCIs, and he followed through. The evidence is in that teardown, the inside of that engine is pretty varnished.
I have not heard that its trimmer moly in redline

maybe hes giving him 15w50 redline in a bnd jug? Lol
 

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I have not heard that its trimmer moly in redline

maybe hes giving him 15w50 redline in a bnd jug? Lol
No, of course not, because it's another idea that would be met with deadly resistance on BITOG. Yet, why do you think the Moly count decreased in Red Line? It's not like Red Line wanted to make their oil worse. The only explanation is that they reformulated it with Trimer. Keep in mind that Trimer Moly was invented over 25 years ago, so it's not exactly the latest high-tech friction modifier. Twenty years from now we'll probably find out what they're currently putting in ACEA C3 oils as friction modifier. Who knows...
 

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Not teflon, here ya go. wear gloves, not that it is dangerous because it isn't, but the stuff don't come off. It is the stuff you use for a filter on a spa, on filter gasket it is like permanent chap stick. That rubber simply wont dry out ever. Did you buy a lot of filters or something?

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Yeah...got a dozen or so on hand. Thanks for the tip!
 

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Interesting result, I thought this product would sit on the surface and pretty much last as long as I could think. Perhaps not. The surface is still lubed and sticky, but not as much as when I shelved them, so I'm glad I checked. This may be a 4-5 year treatment instead of like a 20 year treatment. I'm not gonna lie, I'm kinda puzzled by this.
 
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Let’s not confuse hydraulic lifter bleed down(few seconds of startup chatter) after the engine being stagnant with the roller assembly constant clicking even warm/hot. The initial priming “tick” is filter bypass range in conjunction with climate and/or too much viscosity in your oil selection. RL 5-30 is basically a light 40 weight oil

If everyone ran the same test and instead used PUP 0-40, it would easily meet or exceed and save $$$
 

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Let’s not confuse hydraulic lifter bleed down(few seconds of startup chatter) after the engine being stagnant with the roller assembly constant clicking even warm/hot. The initial priming “tick” is filter bypass range in conjunction with climate and/or too much viscosity in your oil selection. RL 5-30 is basically a light 40 weight oil

If everyone ran the same test and instead used PUP 0-40, it would easily meet or exceed and save $$$
I believe pup 0w40 was used by a few members to quiet a tick but it just didnt work. Ive only been here for like 2 years so i may be wrong on that
 

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Let’s not confuse hydraulic lifter bleed down(few seconds of startup chatter) after the engine being stagnant with the roller assembly constant clicking even warm/hot. The initial priming “tick” is filter bypass range in conjunction with climate and/or too much viscosity in your oil selection. RL 5-30 is basically a light 40 weight oil

If everyone ran the same test and instead used PUP 0-40, it would easily meet or exceed and save $$$

I will put this as politely as possible: You seriously need to find another forum to troll. Maybe try BITOG. I hear they enjoy the company of trolls. Otherwise, have a good evening.

RedLine 5W-30 is not a light 40 weight, lol. You seriously need to get your trolling straight.

I would continue this conversation if I knew it was going somewhere useful, but you're here to ruffle our feathers. Also, I never have a "priming tick" or any tick, as I'm sure many others don't. Do you even know what kind of oil PUP 0W-40 is and how it's categorized in the ACEA class?

You claimed you're an engineer. Please, do tell us more about you. I can't wait to read about your credentials.
 

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I believe pup 0w40 was used by a few members to quiet a tick but it just didnt work. Ive only been here for like 2 years so i may be wrong on that
Don't bother. He's going to troll us until he blows a fuse and gets banned. That's how it usually ends. He claimed that he's an engineer. I wonder what he's engineering, where, and what his credentials are. He keeps avoiding answering that question.
 

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I believe pup 0w40 was used by a few members to quiet a tick but it just didnt work. Ive only been here for like 2 years so i may be wrong on that
One of those was me lol. I tried a mix of PUP 0w40 and PUP 5w30 and my tick slowly started coming back. I then tried 7 qts of PUP 0w40 and it still kept getting louder. I admitted defeat and went back to RL 5w30 and within 500 miles it was quiet again.

I will say this, that PUP mix I ran kept my Hemi quiet for much longer than any of the other oils I tried.
 

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The 57899XP is one of the best filters you can put on our motors
How does it compare to RP 20-820? Amazon has a sale for 57899XP for $7.83. I just ordered 6 of them. I'm down to my last PBL24651, and since I had a Purolator BOSS leak on me (the gasket deformed towards the end of the OCI...what a bummer), I needed to restock. I really hope it's a good filter. The word on BITOG is that WIX doesn't have good filtering efficiency, whatever that means.

Here, if you want to get some: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EDEH5MK
 

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Awesome! Good to hear. I like wix xp filters and i was very pleased with how easily it fit
It seems to be a bit taller than the PBL24651. I barely got my tiny inch-pound torque wrench in there to tighten it to 8 ft-lb, so I wonder if I will be able to do it with the WIX. If you're wondering if 8 ft-lb is too much for a spin-on filter, it's not. It's what Hyundai specs for the 2.4L Santa Fe at the low end, and IIRC it can go up to 12 ft-lb. So it's nothing on a HEMI. I started torquing it after the PBL24651 gasket failed on me.
 

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How does it compare to RP 20-820? Amazon has a sale for 57899XP for $7.83. I just ordered 6 of them. I'm down to my last PBL24651, and since I had a Purolator BOSS leak on me (the gasket deformed towards the end of the OCI...what a bummer), I needed to restock. I really hope it's a good filter. The word on BITOG is that WIX doesn't have good filtering efficiency, whatever that means.

Here, if you want to get some: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EDEH5MK
They're virtually identical except I believe the inlet holes are different....

I've cut several open before and they're definitely a high quality filter.
 
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