How To: Install a 2018 4C (UAQ/UAS) Radio in 2013 - 2017 RAM

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Made the plunge of installing the Radio and Media hub and harness I purchased a few months ago. So far after the install I got no audio from any speaker, No option for Heated or Cooled passenger seat and no way to look at my backup or cargo camera. No Suspension Settings option within setting of Radio(I have the factory Air Ride). Any ideas?

Truck was a 2017 2500 Laramie with the 8.4 NAV radio.

Radio I purchased was a 68461699AC
Media Hub I purchased was 68397098AE
UAQ/UAS Harness I purchased from KAODtech.com

Any thoughts? I have key cycled half a dozen times. Am I missing something?

The panasonic radios have to take several minutes, maybe hours to resync and read the BCM truck configuration... Until the radio shows the BuCam AND/OR SXM works... the radio hasn't finished its reset.
 

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It can be off. Go get lunch/coffee break and check again in 30 minutes or so
 

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I just did the Seat Module & UAQ Upgrade in my 2016 Tradesman. A huge shout out to

Mp grimm2 for the fantastic harness's he made and the help I was given. I couldn't have done this without his help. I originally had the grey cloth manual seats, now have 2013 leather, power heat and cooled front and rear heated seats. I had the heated seat module pn 68058083AL and i was told to replace it with PN 68217268AF if i wanted the touch screen controls to show up. It took about 30hrs for the truck to communicate with the new module and another couple after that before the controls actually showed up but they finally did and work great. I followed the instructions in this thread and @Roman217 ’s Post #2,697

How To: Install a 2018 4C (UAQ/UAS) Radio EDIT: UPGRADED HSM module 68217268AF for UAx
Thanks Guys!
 

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Grabbing this one if needed..

** Cautionary warning about where you buy a 2018 ram UAQ or UAS Radio from see post 2420. **

------- Dec 2020 -------
Here's also a recently verified Ram radio PNs

2020 Ram 1500 classic (Thanks @Brads41789 Post Here )
- PN: 68461703Ax (UAS 4c)


2020 Ram 1500 Classic (Thanks @dwhutch post here. Verified later.)
- PN: 68461699Ax (UAQ 4c Nav)


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* If you are upgrading from a 3.0 or 5.0 radio to an 8.4 (13-17 Harmon or Panasonic, here's a link to the 8.4 conversion thread for details (start at post 1, 2 & 3). You will also need ATC in most instances (13-17 trucks definitely. 18/classic trucks are 50/50. See below).
- DIY: 2013-2017 RA3/RA4 8.4" Radio Upgrade/HVAC Conversion.
(Resurrected thread after it was deleted again)

------------------ 4/25/18 edit ------------------

Just an 'issue' update for those installing the UAQ/UAS radio in their truck...

We had several reports:
See: Gibbs' .HVAC Issues w/UAS upgrade.

& Outback199 's 19Classic w/same issue at post 138 ... and the outcome at post 269 here.

A lack of 'full' heat after radio install using the previously recommended 13-17 HVAC modules from the earlier Ra3/Ra4 upgrade method. (Blend door not making full travel & jumping from full Hot to full cold only!)

** EDIT: adding ATC option fixed issue on all cases including those where HVAC module swap didn't and allowed 13-17 modules to work **

- Guido2112 's 17 1500 (fixed w/new module)
- Gibbs ' 18 2500 (fixed w/new 18 module)

** Ckleinfeld 's 15 1500 (used mod. didn't work). .See here


We have identified the correct 18 HVAC modules ...
Code:
As DeereGuy stated, it appears that on 2018 trucks ...
- 68366552AA = 2014+ 1500 trucks w/8.4 radios (MTC & ATC)
  ie factory 7 speed fan (w/Variable Displacement A/C Compressor)

- 68366553AA = 2013+ 2500/3500 & 2013 1500 trucks w/8.4 radios (ATC)
  ie factory 4 speed fan (w/Sgl speed A/C Compressor)

- Post 87: Comparison of compass hub vs ram hub & install videos

Also:
Here's how Sawz fixed the 2018 USB hub cutout issue on his earlier console.See here.

-------- 1/15/21 Update -------
Possible 2017 Chrysler 200 Dual USB Hub that fits better (minimal sanding) and is reported to work with the UAQ/UAS.
See Post 2767 here.

- P/N: 68283703AA 2017 Chrysler 200 - dual USB with AUX inputs.

Confirmed by Ezyduzit23 post 3094
post 3094.

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------------------- 10/18/19 Edit: --------------------
For those that want to purchase the entire 2018 Console Lid Assy (includes premium dual USB hub & 2018 lid wiring) here are some PNs and pricing from forum Vendor Benny at AllMoparParts.com ...

** Please see my post in CircuitGuy's Dash swap thread, post 40, for details about the panel light wiring mod if installing this in a 13-17 console truck (or it may drain the battery just plugging it in)**

$317 - Rebel Red stitch:
5YE031XRAG.

$403 - Rebel White Stitch:
6RD67XDBAF.

$*** - Rebel Blue Stitch: (pm Benny)

$646 - Laramie/BigHorn Std Black:
6RD73DX9AF.

$970 - Limited White Stitch & logo:
6RD71BD3AF.

Edit:
Post 1047 - Possible remote USB port option (doesn't work)

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I just want to jump on here and let everyone know that @Mpgrimm2 is the real deal! after I purchased the USB harness for my radio, we spoke over the phone about some minor snags I had. I'd let everyone know that if your buy a radio from LKQ Auto Parts, you might get one that had a delaminated screen, I made that mistake and immediately got an RMA number for a refund. The second radio I bought is working perfectly. Mike, thank you again.
 

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Noticed since I installed my radio and hub. I get the “device not supported” when I start my truck. I clear it and go on my way and everything works as it should. Nothing is connected when it gives this message in the usb hub. Phone is paired via Bluetooth. I have tried to remove and re sync it a few times and same issue. Any idea on what It could be that’s causing the message. I usually just clear it and go on my way since it all works but would be nice to have it off
 

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Noticed since I installed my radio and hub. I get the “device not supported” when I start my truck. I clear it and go on my way and everything works as it should. Nothing is connected when it gives this message in the usb hub. Phone is paired via Bluetooth. I have tried to remove and re sync it a few times and same issue. Any idea on what It could be that’s causing the message. I usually just clear it and go on my way since it all works but would be nice to have it off

I believe somewhere back in this thread it was found to be a SW driver issue between the radio and USB Hub that was fixed with newer radio sw.
Any idea what application version your radio is running?
 
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Recently put in a uas radio out of a 2020 ram and bought the infotainment bezel, harness, climate control module etc. i have all functionality except the volume control knob, tune, screen off, and back button do not work. On the rare occasion (once in the past 3 months) when the radio resets itself, I can use these controls for that ride only. Once I shut the truck off all of those buttons don’t work. Luckily I left it on a decent volume. Does anyone have any ideas? I’ve searched the donor trucks vin for an update but it says it is up to date. I’ve tried a can bus reset but no luck.
 

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my quess would be the bezel control/unit or a loose pin in the harness.whats your application number?the reset may can be fixed with a different application.m2 mods harnesses are better built.and is the bezel new?infotainment is notorious for selling used parts sometimes if they're clean just simply sending them back out.
 

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& what's the PN and application version of the radio? If it's from a 5th Gen truck there will be issues
 

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Does anyone perhaps have the part number for the 4G antenna input to the UAQ radio? Any alternatives which can be suggested on amazon? Just not sure on the frequency the antenna needs to be on.

Lastly, any idea where the factory antenna would be located? I have done the retrofit and make use of the wireless hotspot often, but my signal is not the greatest running off the internal 4G antenna alone.
 

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my quess would be the bezel control/unit or a loose pin in the harness.whats your application number?the reset may can be fixed with a different application.m2 mods harnesses are better built.and is the bezel new?infotainment is notorious for selling used parts sometimes if they're clean just simply sending them back out.
I'd guess it was the infotainment bezel for sure. I remember originally purchasing a UAQ from them and it was malfunctioning so I sent it back. 2 days later they sent me the same exact one with the same problem and said they "fixed" it. I sent it right back for a refund and would not recommend doing business with them after that experience.
 

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Hello, I am trying to find out how to put a cd player in my dodge1500.I know this is not the place to ask, but i am having trouble trying to find any information on it,
 

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I believe somewhere back in this thread it was found to be a SW driver issue between the radio and USB Hub that was fixed with newer radio sw.
Any idea what application version your radio is running?
Just checked today. Running 20.04.19

Any idea where I can download the latest SW so I can update the unit?

Thank you in advance.
 

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I'll send you a message with details
Hey Grimm,

Thank you for the conversion harness. I have a question though and maybe you know the answer. How do I get my antenna to plug into the back of this radio? The plug doesn't match up with the slots. Thanks.
 

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Hey Grimm,

Thank you for the conversion harness. I have a question though and maybe you know the answer. How do I get my antenna to plug into the back of this radio? The plug doesn't match up with the slots. Thanks.
Pictures of what you're working with please
 

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Just checked today. Running 20.04.19

Any idea where I can download the latest SW so I can update the unit?

Thank you in advance.
SW version or application version... It matters & PN
 
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