Synthetic Oil

Oil of Choice

  • Castrol Syntec/Edge

    Votes: 236 8.5%
  • Royal Purple

    Votes: 327 11.8%
  • AMSOil

    Votes: 400 14.4%
  • Valvoline Synpower

    Votes: 160 5.8%
  • Mobil 1

    Votes: 994 35.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 662 23.8%

  • Total voters
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COMPLETELY agree. Tired of telling my friends. They keep coming back with "all gas is the same". I have to repeat "yes, but not all additives or the amount of additives". Screw it. Let them have problems; I tried.
Amen! I spoke to a fuel distributer and she told me when they go to the fuel hub they pay for for BP gas and they have to buy BP gas as BP comes and runs samples to make sure they are selling BP gasoline. Same with mobil and shell.
 

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Actually it's the complete opposite, I'm on the GM forums and the only complaint so far is "but it doesn't sound like a v8" from the die hard v8 guys like us. Drive one, just for kicks, you'll realize how badly our hemi underperforms compared to it.

On my test drive of a used "custom" trim with the 2.7 running noisy AT's, I literally had to pull over and pop the hood because I could not believe it was a 4 banger. That thing scoots.

I will say it was a tiny bit more busy than my truck, a little more eager to downshift and very quick to upshift, my truck is still more smooth and luxurious.
My mom got one of them trucks and man do i like it! The turbski whistle is the icing on the cake. Reminds me of my 12 valve but that thing will actually put me back in the seat lol
 

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Thanks for this - great idea. I guess it didn't occur to me having never been in this unprecedented situation before.
You could also look into a regimen of something like Lucas UCL or the Amsoil UCL. I know the Amsoil one has some minor cleaning ability, its just a bit pricey. The Lucas is way cheaper and you can buy it by the gallon and refill the 5oz bottles.
 

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That is what we call, stupid good.

So good you can ditch the catch can?
 

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Well, I just went out to Bezos World and ordered a 6 pack of Techron PEA. Also read up on Techron on Chevron website - this concentrate is for remedial cleaning action, not regular fueling dosage. The went on to say a regular fueling dosage is app. 1/10 the cleaning dosage, so that's what I'll do, despite being out of Top Tier gasoline for almost a year. We don't put on many miles anymore, so I'm not gonna run a big spike dose for cleaning.

I'm also going to write Kwik Trip (a leading Top Tier gasoline supplier here) and ask WTF?!
 

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Cancel it Brian, get the si-1 instead. Look at the techrons boroscped, just not the same. Or it looks like you want a light cleaning? So not even the techron concentrate?
 

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Why would intake valves be fouled on a GDI engine with only a single injector (in-cylinder)? Breather oil mist carryover?
 

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Well, I just went out to Bezos World and ordered a 6 pack of Techron PEA. Also read up on Techron on Chevron website - this concentrate is for remedial cleaning action, not regular fueling dosage. The went on to say a regular fueling dosage is app. 1/10 the cleaning dosage, so that's what I'll do, despite being out of Top Tier gasoline for almost a year. We don't put on many miles anymore, so I'm not gonna run a big spike dose for cleaning.

I'm also going to write Kwik Trip (a leading Top Tier gasoline supplier here) and ask WTF?!
My wife worked for years at HEB Gas Station and she knew the company that came out and cleaned the tanks and the filters, etc. There was literally only 2 stations in town doing regular MX on tanks and pumps, so those are the only 2 places I get fuel. One is a Shell Station, the other HEB, and they R running Shell for fuel, just rebranded. But I also know where the end of the line pumps/tanks are and as said: They all get the "same" refined gas, it is the additives that each particular company puts in.
 

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My wife worked for years at HEB Gas Station and she knew the company that came out and cleaned the tanks and the filters, etc. There was literally only 2 stations in tank doing regular MX on tanks and pumps, so those are the only 2 places I get fuel. One is a Shell Station, the other HEB, and they R running Shell for fuel, just rebranded. But I also know where the end of the line pumps/tanks are and as said: They all get the "same" refined gas, it is the additives that each particular company puts in.

Additives are added at the fuel terminal, not the refinery or pipeline. You aren't located at the end of the civilized world as am I.
 

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Additives are added at the fuel terminal, not the refinery or pipeline. You aren't located at the end of the civilized world as am I.
Maybe I mis-spoke. But yeah, wherever U go to get the gas from storage tanks to the trucks. I worked for HESS for a bunch of years running a station before Military. I got to do fun things like stick tanks, stick the truck, insure loads, amounts, deliveries along with all the MX needed to be called in, and Gas Jockey, etc., was in NJ and NJ law U R not allowed to pump yer fuel, must be "attendant". Friggin gas truck driver one day freaked me out and taught me a thing about trucks and fuel: He got on top of fully loaded truck, and dropped lit match, nothing, still here. BUT he reiterated in the strongest words, not a thing to do on an empty truck, as those "fumes" blow U to the moon, I remember that lesson, and that was like 1972, LOL.
 

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So, it turns out spray CRC valve cleaner is still PEA, but in spray form. Imma run Techron PEA in the gasoline so's the fuel injector nozzles are cleaned, too. We've only got one GDI engine, the rest are port injected & these engines get both the injectors and the valves cleaned.

The original reason to clean port-injected engine valves was gasoline deposits on the valves. There isn't any on a GDI engine.

 

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Kwik trip over here in Wisconsin is and has been back to top tier since the summer. Have a card for work so only fill up there. Wife fills up wherever is convenient and hasn't had any fuel related issues or check engine lights on like she did last winter when the stations here couldn't confirm top tier or not.
 

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Kwik trip over here in Wisconsin is and has been back to top tier since the summer. Have a card for work so only fill up there. Wife fills up wherever is convenient and hasn't had any fuel related issues or check engine lights on like she did last winter when the stations here couldn't confirm top tier or not.

Thanks for letting us know. I fired off an inquiry to Kwik Trip earlier today.
 

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I did watch a couple of the links posted. I was always told by professionals (one being Pat Goss) Amsoil made the best fuel system cleaner. Not anymore? Other than Ace Hardware I have not found their products sold anywhere locally, have to go online, which is fine. But also kind of think as long as I'm consistently running top tier fuel and changing my oil (quality synthetic) every 5k to 7k miles, I probably don't need a fuel system cleaner. I still do it every 10k miles or so.
 

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I did watch a couple of the links posted. I was always told by professionals (one being Pat Goss) Amsoil made the best fuel system cleaner. Not anymore? Other than Ace Hardware I have not found their products sold anywhere locally, have to go online, which is fine. But also kind of think as long as I'm consistently running top tier fuel and changing my oil (quality synthetic) every 5k to 7k miles, I probably don't need a fuel system cleaner. I still do it every 10k miles or so.
In theory PI should be amoung the best if not the best because it is the highest % PEA posted. In hemi395's truck it didnt melt the carbon away as the redline did, but then again he ran the amsoil pi first, and then the redline, so maybe it loosened it up for the redline? dunno. My guess is if you run three % PEA fuel treatments and the only two I know of is redline si-1 and amsoil pi, then in theory your pistons will be clean. Redline is a larger size and amsoil has a higher PEA posted, so the two products in theory are a wash. Now, having said that, redline si-1 is killing it, I have seen three vehicles same results, cleans great. Only one showed it after 3 uses = engine is like new. One would hope someday we can get an amsoil test posted after 3 uses. I need one of those boroscopes, I have ran over a case through my truck, if there is any carbon there ima gonna be pizzed. Those two products have the highest PEA.
 
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