Theft is on the rise

[JW2 Innovations]

As much as I hate chopping up the factory wiring, what is the cost for this connectorized solution?

I've been contemplating cutting into the 12-volt wire behind the start switch and installing a remote jumper plug of sorts. The switch sounds like a cool idea but may or may not be easy enough to trace and bypass.

I'm thinking of using a 3.5mm jack instead of a switch or something more unique. Even if a thief finds the jack-hole somewhere on the dash, there's not much they can do without a properly configured plug.

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I like your 3.5mm jack idea. Parts and $7.99 shipping is just under $20 for connectors housing crimp ends, etc from mouser.com. I have a couple tape options to wrap the wiring, have wiring (won't take much), and then just need to decide on either a kill switch or something like you mention with the 3.5mm plug. A good quality Blue Sea Systems switch and black rubber boot it like $19 plus tax on Amazon I think if i go that route. I plan to first just test it with bare wires and open kick plate where push button start is. I also tested one of those TRX red push button start switches today. Plugged right in and started the truck up fine. Only thing is the mount is different and light in the switch didn't work for Aux and Run position.

 

[JW2 Innovations]

The hidden kill switch if it's done on the red wire,should shut the truck off as soon as you step on the brake pedal with it off,and if you try to restart it,with the switch off,it should set off the alarm,at least it does on all 3 of my FCA vehicles with a hidden kill switch.But the newest vehicle i own is the wifes 2019 Challenger,but i wouldn't think the 5th gens would be much differant

Thanks, I'll try that out and report back here with results as soon as the parts come in.

 

[JW2 Innovations]

Link?

Once I verify it works the same I'll be posting all the details.

What is policy here for pointing away to other truck forum websites? Not trying to cause an issue but do want to share if this solution works.

 

[JW2 Innovations]

I guess I will just be thankful to be in a place where theft is pretty darn tough. My truck (and my wife's Explorer, my Porsche and tractor) is/are all normally parked in a locked garage when not in use. Highway vehicles are parked in our business parking lot with cameras. The only other option for theft comes when parked at local businesses or while on short term trips. Maybe if I had a 1/4 million dollar+ collector edition I'd be more concerned. But not a single of our vehicles could not be easily replaced with the right money at the right time.

Understood. I live close enough to Memphis, TN where just a few months back they arrested over 100 - 15 and 16 year olds stealing over 100 cars - in 1 month. Some taking the stolen cars and stealing and carjacking others while driving the stolen cars they just took. They also have surveillance camera footage of them with tech to create a new FOB for your Dodge cars and Ram trucks. Wild wild west. May not stop them but something cheap like a kill switch to me is worth a try.

 

[RamDiver]

Once I verify it works the same I'll be posting all the details.

What is policy here for pointing away to other truck forum websites? Not trying to cause an issue but do want to share if this solution works.

I think the norm for posting links is to make an effort to post only Ram Forum links or supporting members if possible.

Otherwise, post what is required. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

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[JW2 Innovations]

I think the norm for posting links is to make an effort to post only Ram Forum links or supporting members if possible.

Otherwise, post what is required. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

I think the norm for posting links is to make an effort to post only Ram Forum links or supporting members if possible.

Otherwise, post what is required. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

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Thanks. I didn't want to tick anyone off certainly or break forum rules. I do think it's going to work. If it does I'll probably post what I did in detail and credit the guy that I think created what I saw by name/username without linking external site.

 

[RamDiver]

Thanks. I didn't want to tick anyone off certainly or break forum rules. I do think it's going to work. If it does I'll probably post what I did in detail and credit the guy that I think created what I saw by name/username without linking external

It's great to credit the original designer but from another users point of view, they just want to locate the parts you used in the mod.

If that results in posting an external link, so be it. I've never been challenged yet for posting external links although, I do my best to keep them internal whenever possible.

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[Wild one]

Thanks, I'll try that out and report back here with results as soon as the parts come in.

Don't get to crazy on the switch,all you need is cheap rocker switch if you decide to use a switch over the head phone jack idea.If you go with a switch "do not" use a lighted switch,it won't work,i'm not sure why they don't work,but i can tell you they won't work from s'perience,lol

 

[JW2 Innovations]

Don't get to crazy on the switch,all you need is cheap rocker switch if you decide to use a switch over the head phone jack idea.If you go with a switch "do not" use a lighted switch,it won't work,i'm not sure why they don't work,but i can tell you they won't work from s'perience,lol

The switch I was looking at is this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMC7IO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Rubber boot is this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMC7HU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

I wanted to use a higher quality one since it's going to be used each time you start/stop the vehicle. So I wanted it to last a long time.

@RamDiver Has me thinking about other ideas now, with the mention of the 3.5mm socket angle - which I like.

If I go with something you insert, I don't want it falling out while driving or truck is running when I'm using it after I've used it 100's of times. Have looked at the 3.5mm stereo jacks, power plugs in various sizes, usb jacks, and even RJ45 socket since it has a locking tab. All of which I find pro's and con's with. Like anything you plug in without a lock/clip/rotating position/etc I'm concerned with it falling out. And how many times could you insert something before the socket itself gets worn out? Or the RJ45 option which has a clip, but it's plastic and will only last so many times. And lastly where do I keep this special key? I dunno. Love the idea for sure, but I don't have that approach baked out yet where I've got something I'm ready to move forward on. But something like a 3.5mm connection where there are more than one option to complete the circuit that you decide as a "Key" is appealing to me. RJ45 jack, same thing. Like I mentioned, just need to test it out first with bare wires and then I can fabricate something for the connection part. Ideas welcome certainly!

 

[chri5k]

Not sure about Canada but here in the US more and more prosecutors are using prosecutorial discretion, restorative justice or outright downgrading felonies. With "no cash bail" and other reforms the cops don't waste their time on property crimes. The perp is usually back on the street before the cop finishes their report. Heck in some places the prosecutorial policies are even applied to violent / bodily injury crimes. It is no wonder car theft is on the rise.

 

[JW2 Innovations]

Not sure about Canada but here in the US more and more prosecutors are using prosecutorial discretion, restorative justice or outright downgrading felonies. With "no cash bail" and other reforms the cops don't waste their time on property crimes. The perp is usually back on the street before the cop finishes their report. Heck in some places the prosecutorial policies are even applied to violent / bodily injury crimes. It is no wonder car theft is on the rise.

That's what's happening in Memphis, TN. One teenage car thief got caught stealing a car, taken to police station, released on bail and before the evening was up was arrested again while using another stolen car - stealing yet another one.

Less than a week ago, there was a car full of thugs going down the street and randomly firing rifles out the window for numerous blocks while driving down the same street - not like they were turning at street corners, changing directions, hard to find. Cars, homes, etc all getting hit with bullets. Thankfully no one was shot or killed. Wild wild west!

 

[RamDiver]

The switch I was looking at is this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMC7IO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Rubber boot is this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMC7HU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

I wanted to use a higher quality one since it's going to be used each time you start/stop the vehicle. So I wanted it to last a long time.

@RamDiver Has me thinking about other ideas now, with the mention of the 3.5mm socket angle - which I like.

I believe the switch you identified is not what you require. This switch is a 'momentary on' type switch identified as off-(on) and remains closed only while holding the toggle in position.

The switch you require is an Off-on type switch such as this;

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMFIZS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=ramforum-20&th=1

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[Rayzaa]

I know thieves will take whatever they want at any cost but they seem to be getting smarter. Keep an eye out for your ride https://youtu.be/TD-8OzXmafU

Well, my Ram has a key so not worried there but my Challneger doesnt. I have the fob in a faraday bag in the house which blocks the signals so hopefully that will prevent theft but who knows.

 

[Wild one]

The switch I was looking at is this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMC7IO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Rubber boot is this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMC7HU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

I wanted to use a higher quality one since it's going to be used each time you start/stop the vehicle. So I wanted it to last a long time.

@RamDiver Has me thinking about other ideas now, with the mention of the 3.5mm socket angle - which I like.

If I go with something you insert, I don't want it falling out while driving or truck is running when I'm using it after I've used it 100's of times. Have looked at the 3.5mm stereo jacks, power plugs in various sizes, usb jacks, and even RJ45 socket since it has a locking tab. All of which I find pro's and con's with. Like anything you plug in without a lock/clip/rotating position/etc I'm concerned with it falling out. And how many times could you insert something before the socket itself gets worn out? Or the RJ45 option which has a clip, but it's plastic and will only last so many times. And lastly where do I keep this special key? I dunno. Love the idea for sure, but I don't have that approach baked out yet where I've got something I'm ready to move forward on. But something like a 3.5mm connection where there are more than one option to complete the circuit that you decide as a "Key" is appealing to me. RJ45 jack, same thing. Like I mentioned, just need to test it out first with bare wires and then I can fabricate something for the connection part. Ideas welcome certainly!

A toggle switch will work,but it is easier to find.I use this style of rocker switch as my kill switch,as they already have pigtails soldered to them,but pretty well any on/off spst switch will work. The RCA jack idea is intriguing,but i'm like you,it'll eventually wear out,plus it's one other thing you have to have on your key chain to keep track of.

https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-Solder-Rocker-Switch-KCD1-X-Y/dp/B07XC5KB8D/ref=d_pd_di_sccai_cn_sccl_3_2/144-9643162-1918166?pd_rd_w=85hU6&content-id=amzn1.sym.e13de93e-5518-4644-8e6b-4ee5f2e0b062&pf_rd_p=e13de93e-5518-4644-8e6b-4ee5f2e0b062&pf_rd_r=87NJS08PA1E952JX8KFP&pd_rd_wg=EgIKS&pd_rd_r=1041b1a7-a026-4fc8-99fd-7bd36cb0e775&pd_rd_i=B07XC5KB8D&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/APIELE-Rocker-Switch-Automotive-Pre-Wired/dp/B08R5PLDBP/ref=sr_1_30?crid=CD25KZCWLB1Z&keywords=12v+rocker+switch&qid=1679847398&sprefix=12v+rocker+switchs%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-30

 

[TestPilot57]

Not sure about Canada but here in the US more and more prosecutors are using prosecutorial discretion, restorative justice or outright downgrading felonies. With "no cash bail" and other reforms the cops don't waste their time on property crimes. The perp is usually back on the street before the cop finishes their report. Heck in some places the prosecutorial policies are even applied to violent / bodily injury crimes. It is no wonder car theft is on the rise.

My son was a police officer for several years. One (of several) reason(s) was lack of support from the prosecution. He arrested one person, I believe it was 7 times, for the same crime and each time the guy walked with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

 

[JW2 Innovations]

I believe the switch you identified is not what you require. This switch is a 'momentary on' type switch identified as off-(on) and remains closed only while holding the toggle in position.

The switch you require is an Off-on type switch such as this;

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMFIZS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=ramforum-20&th=1

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Great catch, Thanks! And acouple bucks cheaper as well. Good eye.

 

[JW2 Innovations]

A toggle switch will work,but it is easier to find.I use this style of rocker switch as my kill switch,as they already have pigtails soldered to them,but pretty well any on/off spst switch will work. The RCA jack idea is intriguing,but i'm like you,it'll eventually wear out,plus it's one other thing you have to have on your key chain to keep track of.

https://www.amazon.com/TWTADE-Solder-Rocker-Switch-KCD1-X-Y/dp/B07XC5KB8D/ref=d_pd_di_sccai_cn_sccl_3_2/144-9643162-1918166?pd_rd_w=85hU6&content-id=amzn1.sym.e13de93e-5518-4644-8e6b-4ee5f2e0b062&pf_rd_p=e13de93e-5518-4644-8e6b-4ee5f2e0b062&pf_rd_r=87NJS08PA1E952JX8KFP&pd_rd_wg=EgIKS&pd_rd_r=1041b1a7-a026-4fc8-99fd-7bd36cb0e775&pd_rd_i=B07XC5KB8D&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/APIELE-Rocker-Switch-Automotive-Pre-Wired/dp/B08R5PLDBP/ref=sr_1_30?crid=CD25KZCWLB1Z&keywords=12v+rocker+switch&qid=1679847398&sprefix=12v+rocker+switchs%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-30

Thanks for these links! I'd be the one to put the special key through the laundry at least once....

 

[Dave Haddon]

TJW961..thanks for taking the lead on this..waiting for your report and how to do it..

 

[Wild one]

TJW961..thanks for taking the lead on this..waiting for your report and how to do it..

The video i sent you last night,didn't explain it Dave? You cut the same red wire on the trucks as you do the cars,splice in the switch you want to use,with enough wire length to hide the switch in your chosen hidden location.

 

[Dave Haddon]

Oh yep it was perfect I always look at stuff. Enjoy seeing how folks do stuff..No offense Rick..LOL