Ethanol Free Gas

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Badger 13

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I prefer ethanol free gas as well, but most places only have it in the higher octane grade and are very proud of their prices. When we lived in NM, several stations had the non ethanol in 2 or 3 octane grades and it was the same price as the ethanol fuel. Our mileage was and is always better with non ethanol fuel, especially in the winter months. Now the truck only gets some when I fill up my fuel containers for yard equipment, and top off the tank.
 

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All my small engines and my Harleys run ethanol FREE...My mower and pressure washer gum up and require a carb rebuild if they sit more than a month with ethanol. That **** sucks, when storing Dodge for the summer I fillup with NON ethanol, as I do ALL my vehicles that sit. My Harleys always run non ethanol unless on a trip and none avail
 

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I'm paying 35/40 cents more than reg. and getting 1 to 2 mpg improvement so its not cost effective for me but I disagree with subsidizing farmers and forcing us to burn ethanol so I'll pay more.

The E85/Ethanol not only is based on secret welfare for farmers, it does nothing for the environment other that raising the corn and other grains adds to the air pollution itself. This is not a "green" solution fuel.
 

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My Gen III loves pure gasoline. I use it mostly for towing, and I can pull a higher gear if I use pure. I've proved it to my self many times. I don't even look at the price if it's available, it's that much better in my truck. If i have a half tank of pure, and fill it with e-10 premium it runs decent on the mix.
 

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I have four vehicles, three of which are gasoline powered. I NEVER use E10 or E anything with corn in it unless it's an emergency. I find that I also get an extra 2 - 4 MPG across the board. Go back 10 - 15 years or so and look at all of the gasoline powered equipment like off-road vehicles, chain saws, mowers and the like that were being eaten alive by ethanol, which damaged older rubber fuel lines. Fortunately I don't have the issue with my 2017 RAM as it's an ECO. A good way to find ethanol free stations (at least in my area) is to google "pure gas". They have a detailed printout of where you can obtain ethanol free fuel and they also show the available fuel grade. Here in the PNW we have lot's of stations listed there, although I've never been anywhere other than the West coast. I stand by a simple rule: "I like my corn to be on the cob!".
 

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I've tried to find some clear gas as they call it around here. But I haven't found it cheaper than $4.99/Gal. And I cant justify spending the extra $1.45/Gal. If I can find it within a $.30 difference, then I would do it. But until then I'm sticking with the e10.

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Have a 2010 ram and a 2014 ford fusion, run ONLY high octane ethanol free (there will always be trace amounts of ethanol, because the same tanker that hauled ethanol yesterday is hauling ethanol free gas today) Noticeable difference! Unfortunately the turbo charged 2.0 in the fusion, still has no known substance to clean out the injectors, if you do try, it burns too hot and burns up the turbo! so.. ya... Dinosaur juice it is!!
 

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Great tip on stations with pure gas. More than I thought existed.
 

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Years ago I had both a Chevrolet mechanic and an outboard engine mechanic tell me they will never run ethanol fuel in anything they own. Over time it degrades all rubbers, plastics, vinyls, etc. So I don't use ethanol on anything either when possible.
 

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Years ago I had both a Chevrolet mechanic and an outboard engine mechanic tell me they will never run ethanol fuel in anything they own. Over time it degrades all rubbers, plastics, vinyls, etc. So I don't use ethanol on anything either when possible.
It does but newer vehicles use different materials that are more resistant to ethanol but it still sucks...lol. Just had to siphon 20 gallons of bad fuel from my boat cause it sat and degraded
 

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just got back from a 400 mile trip pulling a 7,000# TT thru the mts of northern Pa ... was running E 15 just like i usually do and got 11 mpg hc ... check my fuely mileages for our trks .... just does not fit the standard you all are talking about ... now go ahead and flame me
 

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I have been personally been using 89 ethanol free gas from WAWA right after my first 5000 miles on my truck. My Truck now is approaching 15k and I have noticed 3-5 mpg increase switching from 89 e-10 Chevron to 89 Ethanol Free Wawa Gas. It runs quieter and have about 20% increase in fuel power over the E10 I was using. The Big Question now - Do we need to a cleaning additive every 5k to keep the carbon cleaned out ? No One seems to know and It would be nice to have a answer to this concern.
 

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I've been using E10 for the past 40 years in all my engines and never had any problem caused by it. Back in the beginning when it was used in an older vehicle that had never used it the ethanol would loosen years of deposits and cause problems.
 

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The biggest problem with E10/E15 is shelf life of the fuel when bought raw from fuel blenders. Most of the big name stations have dealt with this through the use of newer additive tech in their tanks, but small independent stations or other bulk customers like in agriculture have starting seeing quite a few problems in their bulk tanks when untreated. For a while now there has been a huge need for Diesel additives that polish the fuel/tank and prevent issues such as microbes or water intrusion that typically wasn't an issue with gasoline. Any of you guys that have ever gotten a bad tank of No2 know what a headache it can be. Now we're seeing issues in the gasoline tanks where the Ethanol will attract water, phase separate out to the bottom of the tank, and then start growing microbes in the boundary layer between the fuel and the water/ethanol mixture. In high humidity environments like we see here in South Central Texas and along the Texas coast this can happen rather quickly and ends up being very costly. You end up with lower octane fuel in the top layer, a useless water/ethanol layer, corrosion in the tanks, and microbe intrusion. One of my distributor customers has told me that the take rate on supplemental fuel additives for gasoline has recently taken off with some of the biggest initial skeptics being the customers buying the most after having dealt with the pitfalls of E10 blends in their trucks and equipment.
 

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I have used and will continue to use ethanol free gas since I bought my Ram new. Having seen what ethanol does to small engines. I use ethanol free for everything. Costs more but saves on maintenance.
 

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Interesting discussion....so here’s an off topic question....2 of my motorcycles call for premium...and 2 call for regular 87. The local station here has ethanol free 90 gas.

Would it be better to run the premium 93, or the pure 90 in those two bikes?

I’m gonna start filling my Ram with the pure 90 when towing back and forth to the track...I’m interested to see if there’s an mpg gain in it for me.
 

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I would look at the octane suggestion for the the two that call for "premium", but if it isn't mentioned, I sure would go with 90 ethanol free. That's only my opinion.
 

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just got back from a 400 mile trip pulling a 7,000# TT thru the mts of northern Pa ... was running E 15 just like i usually do and got 11 mpg hc ... check my fuely mileages for our trks .... just does not fit the standard you all are talking about ... now go ahead and flame me

How do you get hand calculated mileage measured in miles and tenths? 11.0? My hand calculations always come out like 11.96 I don't get it.
 

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I have been personally been using 89 ethanol free gas from WAWA right after my first 5000 miles on my truck. My Truck now is approaching 15k and I have noticed 3-5 mpg increase switching from 89 e-10 Chevron to 89 Ethanol Free Wawa Gas. It runs quieter and have about 20% increase in fuel power over the E10 I was using. The Big Question now - Do we need to a cleaning additive every 5k to keep the carbon cleaned out ? No One seems to know and It would be nice to have a answer to this concern.

I experience mileage gains and added power when running ethanol free gas. The corn farmers really like ethanol gas.
 
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