Oil weight question

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Thank you again! What mileage interval would you suggest? 3k or 5k
I personally go between 4-5k, some people go much farther up to 10k+ but for me that’s to far, simply personal preference. I have my oil tested at every oil change to see how my oil is performing and see the health of my engine. I prefer Blackstone Laboratories, they send you a kit for free; take a sample while you’re changing the oil and send the sample back with a check for $28, and in 2 weeks they email you the report. Super easy!
This gives you very good information; so for me I can see my oil has sheared down and thinned out at 4K miles, so that’s the end of my comfort zone.
 

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Don't mean to run off track here but I am very happy I switched to redline 5w30. Been running that since 28k miles and I am now just shy of 50k.

I was towing about 8800 pounds and I saw oil temps peak out at 251 degrees. If i remember right the hotter an oil gets the thinner it gets so running that thicker oil made me feel good.
 

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Don't mean to run off track here but I am very happy I switched to redline 5w30. Been running that since 28k miles and I am now just shy of 50k.

I was towing about 8800 pounds and I saw oil temps peak out at 251 degrees. If i remember right the hotter an oil gets the thinner it gets so running that thicker oil made me feel good.
Yes Sir, and that Redline has the base oil to handle heat.
 

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Chrysler engineers could have chosen any weight oil for their engines. They chose 5W-20 as they think (through much R&D) that it will give the best performance. Why would they chose an inferior weight oil? Who am I to say they're wrong? Anyone who says that they get better performance from 5W-30 (when 5W-20 is specified) has no idea what they're talking about. They can't tell the difference.
 

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hey guys! My 13 ram 1500 5.7 hemi is due for an oil change, I looked the owners manual and the 1500 series says 5w-20 but the 2500/3500 series says 5w-30. Can I run 5w-30 or should I stick to 5w-20? I’m going to use a full synthetic mobile or amsoil.
5W-20, there is a reason they state its use.
 

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Chrysler engineers could have chosen any weight oil for their engines. They chose 5W-20 as they think (through much R&D) that it will give the best performance. Why would they chose an inferior weight oil? Who am I to say they're wrong? Anyone who says that they get better performance from 5W-30 (when 5W-20 is specified) has no idea what they're talking about. They can't tell the difference.
5W-20, there is a reason they state its use.

my truck was noisy and ticked on 5w20. I switched to Redline 5w30 and tick went away and engine is considerably quieter. Ive posted videos in the synthetic oil thread. No opinions here, just actual results. You two care to explain this? Some magic anomaly?

You really think a manufacturer has the best interest in the consumer by making everything last as long as possible? One may not feel a performance gain by using a heavier oil. But i do know this, as fact: my tick went away immediately. My engine quieted down and is much smoother on 5w30. You really think the engine is better and healthier ticking and running rougher? Get out of here.
 

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If manufacturers had the best there would be no failures & no need to upgrade/modify our Rams.......LoL
 

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there is a difference between upgrading / modifying and having reliable dependable stock parts.
Problem being sometimes stock parts are not reliable considering the infamous cam/lifter failure that's been going on for years & people that prefer a quite running engine.
 

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I believe it is stated that 5W 20 is required to ensure the Eco mode of the valve train functions under all conditions aka 'cold conditions'.
But unless you are putzing around in urban areas Eco mode really doesn't come into play much or at all ...
Lighter oil only contributes an almost imeasurable increase in fuel economy so running a heavier viscosity will in all likelihood give you better wear protection and you won't be able to notice any loss in fuel economy

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Oil viscosity is what we are all discussing. The primary difference in oils is their purity and ability to cool, lubricate and suspend particles that contaminate the engine in order to release them in the filter medium. So a 5W20 and a 5W30 at cold start up have the same viscosity "5" once heated to operational temperature the viscosity modifiers in the oil change it to a thicker viscosity "20" or "30". This is also where the oil quality from one to another can make a difference. Higher quality oils will maintain their modifiers for longer period and withstand higher temperatures with less breakdown (i.e. sludge).
Now the viscosity at temperature is what we are all discussing. Higher viscosity has a better "cling" aspect then lower viscosity. It also takes more force to circulate a higher viscosity oil. Therefore a 30 weight oil will cling better and maintain a longer lubrication "cushion" and will quiet noisier engines, particularly when the engine has devices that modify how it runs that use the oiling system to vary its operation, i.e. cam phasers, lifters, etc. The counter to this argument can be that in today's engines with tighter tolerances a thicker viscosity can impact the oiling of bearings, etc. particularly at higher engine RPMs. However, as the engine wears and the gaps grow and tolerances start to move toward their outer/lerger limits higher viscosity oils can provide that additional cushion in which to ride out and in effect remove some of the "tolerance gap" caused by wear and age.
I come from having a Ford 5.4 3 valve and can absolutely stand behind the use of 5w30 for higher mileage engines and the fact that is does substantially decrease some of the "noise". I would even go so far as to say that when the "noise" level increases not going to a 5w30 may bring about a shorter overall life span for the engine and particularly those components of the engine that are manipulated by the oiling system.
As for the primary reason FCA is using 5w20, is the same as Ford, GM and everyone else.....tenths of a mile per gallon in fuel savings. I remember clearly in the very late 90s or early 2000 Ford particularly coming out and stating that nearly all gas engines dating back to the early 90s were good or prefered to run 5w20.

The interesting thing I'd like to know is why have they not moved to a 0w20 or 0w30? A 0 weight oil will get up in to the motor quicker and would in theory result in less "cold" start wear then a 5 weight.
 

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I use swepco 5w30. Better for engine. I figure if it's good for heavy industrial machines, why not my truck. Has ash and zinc, which the crap **** we use today aka Pennzoil, doesn't.

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I use swepco 5w30. Better for engine. I figure if it's good for heavy industrial machines, why not my truck. Has ash and zinc, which the crap **** we use today aka Pennzoil, doesn't.

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We need to see a Used Oil Analysis from Blackstone Laboratories on that oil. If you could take a sample when you change your oil and post your results that would be helpful. We needs to see the additive package and how well it held up to use.
 

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I'm in Florida, and I accidentally ordered 10w-30 Redline. I've put one quart in when I noticed that I had the wrong oil. Will it be ok to continue my oil change and run this oil for one oil change interval?

Thanks.
 

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I'm in Florida, and I accidentally ordered 10w-30 Redline. I've put one quart in when I noticed that I had the wrong oil. Will it be ok to continue my oil change and run this oil for one oil change interval?

Thanks.

you will be fine... Even though you see a 10 in front it seems scary but truth is you have a winter rated oil. And it will even run THINNER than 5w30 at operating temp. In fact you should just say you did it on purpose, it looks like a smarter move, as 10w30 redline has no vii's. The only downside is IF you have hemi tick, if not you may like 10w30 better all the time.

below is temperature range oils work in versus their weight and winter rating.

Engine-Oil-Viscosity-Chart.png
 
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I'm in Florida, and I accidentally ordered 10w-30 Redline. I've put one quart in when I noticed that I had the wrong oil. Will it be ok to continue my oil change and run this oil for one oil change interval?

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IMO yes it will be no problem for you to run that 10w30 in Florida.
 

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Thanks guys, that's what I thought. I won't be running into any low temperatures before my next oil change, that's for sure. Burla, you say 10w-30 will run thinner at operating temps, I thought it was heavier. What am I missing?
 

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One thing I wonder about RL oil is detergent content in it. Is it comparable to PUP or less? Can someone (Burla) elaborate.
 
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