Upgrade Alpine sub & speakers

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Yes all three front dash speakers are 3 1/2” I’m looking to go halfers on a set with somebody for the center speaker. Preferably someone in BC
I believe the club is a cheaper option, therefore I’m assuming not quite as high of quality. Trust me on the infinity 3022’s though. They are solid!

Hey Midnight, I'm only on page 8 of 15 of this thread (you may have found your third front speaker already) and figured I'd drop you a line and say I live in Kamloops and just ordered a set of those JBL speakers for my entire truck and in a week or so I'll have an extra one just sitting around. Did you still need one? Let me know

edit, never mind. I see you got it in. But now i've bookmarked this thread because I am literally about to do the exact same mods to my stereo in my megacab whenever all the parts get in!
 
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I'm bass picky and got the Amp pro open box for price of a lc2i, your so close to where I live, do you ever drive through WA? I have a infinty 3022cfx, lc2i, ax-dsp, 8.4a radio etc etc Installing the wires is very easy. Ground goes from Amp to seat bolt, power from battery to fuse then to Amp. Only took me like 45 minutes to run and hide the power wire. And I'm old and unmotivated lol. That was right after I installed the homeade fiberglass box I got from member here for $15. Next week infinty kappa 12s going in.

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Hey just wanted to pester you about this post. Did you end up getting the amp pro because the bass was bad with the LC2i? or you just wanted to upgrade it to something different. I've been reading forum after forum of what to do with my alpine system and I've settled on either of these. I'm only ever adding one amp so I didn't really want to shell out the $400 for the amp pro that it costs in canada here, unless the audio is worth it.

One review I read of it said there was some type of hissing sound the guy could hear coming from his speakers at low volumes after having this installed. Did you notice that at all?
 

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Hey just wanted to pester you about this post. Did you end up getting the amp pro because the bass was bad with the LC2i? or you just wanted to upgrade it to something different. I've been reading forum after forum of what to do with my alpine system and I've settled on either of these. I'm only ever adding one amp so I didn't really want to shell out the $400 for the amp pro that it costs in canada here, unless the audio is worth it.

One review I read of it said there was some type of hissing sound the guy could hear coming from his speakers at low volumes after having this installed. Did you notice that at all?
I had a cheap pac lp7 I think was model, bass was lacking with it, rolloff from output from alpine Amp I couldn't stand, plus it smelled like plastic burning, so I got the Lc2i, it sounded better, but the accubass sounded wierd to me, bass would sometimes be good, then cut out, then super loud. Then I bought a ax dsp, but issues with the digital Amp in the alpine system, so for like a year I used it and had to use the bass knob to control all bass which I hated. I emailed help for the ax dsp and all they kept saying is, update firmware, use a Apple phone. I updated firmware and it worked until first time I went on my phone to change eq setting then back to no control of bass by radio, only bass knob and I couldn't use Ram w alpine system under settings or it did nothing. The Amp pro has been excellent, no complaints at all, so I wish I would have bought the Amp pro from the start. I found mine open box on Amazon for like $145. I like clean sound and want bass to sound like it should, the Amp pro was only thing that worked for my taste. The ax dsp sounds really good, but my issues with it not working correct with the alpine Amp was only reason I had to get the Amp pro, I wish the ax dsp worked, being able to find tune the bass with the ax dsp eq was great. Right now I have a 2015 8.4AN radio in my 2013 truck, Amp pro ch41 going to a Soundqubed 1250 Amp and 2 12 inch infinity kappa 1200 subs in a fiberglass box.
 
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Hey Midnight, I'm only on page 8 of 15 of this thread (you may have found your third front speaker already) and figured I'd drop you a line and say I live in Kamloops and just ordered a set of those JBL speakers for my entire truck and in a week or so I'll have an extra one just sitting around. Did you still need one? Let me know

edit, never mind. I see you got it in. But now i've bookmarked this thread because I am literally about to do the exact same mods to my stereo in my megacab whenever all the parts get in!
Thanks for the offer!
Enjoy your upgrade :D
 

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I had a cheap pac lp7 I think was model, bass was lacking with it, rolloff from output from alpine Amp I couldn't stand, plus it smelled like plastic burning, so I got the Lc2i, it sounded better, but the accubass sounded wierd to me, bass would sometimes be good, then cut out, then super loud. Then I bought a ax dsp, but issues with the digital Amp in the alpine system, so for like a year I used it and had to use the bass knob to control all bass which I hated. I emailed help for the ax dsp and all they kept saying is, update firmware, use a Apple phone. I updated firmware and it worked until first time I went on my phone to change eq setting then back to no control of bass by radio, only bass knob and I couldn't use Ram w alpine system under settings or it did nothing. The Amp pro has been excellent, no complaints at all, so I wish I would have bought the Amp pro from the start. I found mine open box on Amazon for like $145. I like clean sound and want bass to sound like it should, the Amp pro was only thing that worked for my taste. The ax dsp sounds really good, but my issues with it not working correct with the alpine Amp was only reason I had to get the Amp pro, I wish the ax dsp worked, being able to find tune the bass with the ax dsp eq was great. Right now I have a 2015 8.4AN radio in my 2013 truck, Amp pro ch41 going to a Soundqubed 1250 Amp and 2 12 inch infinity kappa 1200 subs in a fiberglass box.

Yeah I was afraid you'd say that and now I regret not ordering that amp pro haha. I did order some thing from the guy at netaudio (who is UNBELIEVABLY helpful) that comes with an adapter to plug a LOC onto the sub wiring right in the back and save me tapping into the speaker wires. The LOC it comes with is something from Wavtech called a Bassfreq. The guy said it was the best one out there. I'm going to try and see if I can deal with it for a bit while I save up some more money to waste on more parts. If you're running the amp pro, are you not also using another amp for all your speakers as well? The guy kind of told me I'd have to do that and I wasn't really looking to rewire my entire truck and buy a 6 channel amp and lose my middle / ceiling speakers. Did you somehow use the Amp Pro only for the sub and bypass it for all the other speakers and just leave them running off the factory amp?
 
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You can use the amp pro for just the sub OR you can use 2 amps, one for the sub(s) and one for the speakers OR one 6 Chanel amp and run everything.

I’d you’re going to the amp pro, I’d recommend going the 2 amp route.

I have that net audio harness and it adds enough bump to my new sub and amp for me. I have the infinity/jbl speaker upgrade off of stock power and the bass matches up nicely. I actually don’t have my bass knob cranked very often.
There are a few very low notes it won’t hit, but as my sub breaks in it’s getting better and better.
 

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I just have the Amp pro running my sub Amp, all speakers upgraded and running off the stock alpine Amp for interior speakers. Sound quality is very good, maybe in future might go with another Amp, but really no need now.
 

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I just have the Amp pro running my sub Amp, all speakers upgraded and running off the stock alpine Amp for interior speakers. Sound quality is very good, maybe in future might go with another Amp, but really no need now.

So maybe last question, for at least a week haha. I pulled the trigger and bought the amp pro after you said you're only using it to run the amp and left the other speakers alone. Did you also get that wiring harness with it that's an extra $30/$40? I ended up ordering it as it seemed like it was useful and less cutting or something.

How did you end up hooking up that amp pro for the sub? I've read the instruction manual and it's slightly confusing and a couple reviews online actually say it can be incorrect. I am used to reading electrical plans and can wire up a house (it's my job) with any type of wire so I'm not completely out of touch with this stuff just never done car audio myself before.
 

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So maybe last question, for at least a week haha. I pulled the trigger and bought the amp pro after you said you're only using it to run the amp and left the other speakers alone. Did you also get that wiring harness with it that's an extra $30/$40? I ended up ordering it as it seemed like it was useful and less cutting or something.

How did you end up hooking up that amp pro for the sub? I've read the instruction manual and it's slightly confusing and a couple reviews online actually say it can be incorrect. I am used to reading electrical plans and can wire up a house (it's my job) with any type of wire so I'm not completely out of touch with this stuff just never done car audio myself before.


Here is an example from an installer.

 

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So maybe last question, for at least a week haha. I pulled the trigger and bought the amp pro after you said you're only using it to run the amp and left the other speakers alone. Did you also get that wiring harness with it that's an extra $30/$40? I ended up ordering it as it seemed like it was useful and less cutting or something.

How did you end up hooking up that amp pro for the sub? I've read the instruction manual and it's slightly confusing and a couple reviews online actually say it can be incorrect. I am used to reading electrical plans and can wire up a house (it's my job) with any type of wire so I'm not completely out of touch with this stuff just never done car audio myself before.


Here is a quick diagram as well.
 

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I did order the ch41 harness, plugged it in, ran rcas to Amp and Amp turn on wire. Connected pc to Amp pro and setup settings. Real easy. The knob that connects to Amp pro I turned up all the way and hid behind dash. Plug in harness to Amp pro and plug in to stereo. Is real simple install.
 

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I did order the ch41 harness, plugged it in, ran rcas to Amp and Amp turn on wire. Connected pc to Amp pro and setup settings. Real easy. The knob that connects to Amp pro I turned up all the way and hid behind dash. Plug in harness to Amp pro and plug in to stereo. Is real simple install.

Good to hear your install was successful.
If you bought your ch41 online, do you mind providing the site?
I can’t find the newest version anywhere.
 

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What’s a good speaker to swap the stock speakers with? I’m Looking for speaker replacement in the doors. Don’t know anything about stereo/speakers.

Thanks.
 

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Good to hear your install was successful.
If you bought your ch41 online, do you mind providing the site?
I can’t find the newest version anywhere.
Not sure what you mean about newest version, the ch41 is the Amp pro with the Ram style harness. I found mine open box on Amazon for $154, couldn't pass it up at that price.
 

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What’s a good speaker to swap the stock speakers with? I’m Looking for speaker replacement in the doors. Don’t know anything about stereo/speakers.

Thanks.
Do you have alpine system or standard. If you have alpine system you will have 2 speakers in roof headliner and the center channel speaker will say Alpine on cover(plus should have a oem subwoofer under rear passenger side seat).
 

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Do you have alpine system or standard. If you have alpine system you will have 2 speakers in roof headliner and the center channel speaker will say Alpine on cover(plus should have a oem subwoofer under rear passenger side seat).
Just standard as I haven’t done anything to the sound since I got the truck.
I’ll have to take a good look around for all the speakers, but I just know of the 4 in the doors at the moment. I’ll post tomorrow when I can get a look around in there.
 

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Hey everybody just thought I'd run this by you guys seeing as how everyone is kind of doing the same things in here.

I ended up getting that amppro and 2 JL12TW3 subs and an amp to power them up eventually when I get my sub box I ordered from subthump.

In the meantime though, I've replaced all the speakers in my truck and installed sound deadening in the doors and behind the back seats. I replaced the ceiling speakers with a couple little JBL tweeters using a bracket I made out of allround. Works great and cost like 2 cents haha.

I can't pinpoint exactly when it happened but it seems like the back speakers woofer cones don't really move anymore and the speakers sound like they've turned into just mid range or highs. The fronts still pound bass. The sub also seems less powerful and is outputting different bass on the same songs it used to. It's very weird to describe. I'm going to try and unplug some of the speakers I've changed and see if one of them is causing issues or something.

Any idea of what it might be? I'm eventually going to get rid of the sub in the next couple weeks when all my other stuff comes in so maybe I'll report back after that if it starts working again
 

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@djkorben Have you reset the whole system by disconnecting the battery for a while?
 

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@djkorben Have you reset the whole system by disconnecting the battery for a while?

No I haven't actually, is that required for this kind of wiring changes? I didn't even think of doing that.

(How embarrassing too because I work for the internet company and the first thing our agents do before sending us out is ask "did you turn it off and back on again" haha damn)
 
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