Oil Filter Size

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Has anyone noticed(and how could you not) how small the oil filters are now..I have an 06 Ram and the capacity of that oil filter is double if not more of the current oil filter on my 2018..can someone explain why on Earth would you want less filtration on a engine thats expected to work even harder now(with all the accessories ect) then ever before..all the more reason to buy a good quality filter an oil I suppose...
 

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The 2018 is a OD 3” and 3 3/4” height.
The 2006 is a 3 5/8 OD
and a 4” height.
These are based on K&N filters for the Sport 1500 models.
 

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I think Royal Purple makes two different sizes for your current truck. One that is about the size of the stock filter and one that is a little larger. You might look around for some threads about it--I think some guys use the larger filter. I think there is a recent thread about this. I don't remember the part number for the larger one but I think the smaller one is 10-48.
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The smaller one is for better fit with electric steering, no?

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I can’t speak to why they have 2 sizes but I know that almost all of the different manufacturers of our oil filters have 2 sizes including Fram and STP.


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Maybe modern engines are built to better tolerances, have less blow by, fuel is cleaner, yada yada yada. Maybe we don't need bigger filters. Maybe the older ones were over engineered? Maybe I'm full of chit.......or maybe I'm not.
 
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The smaller one is for better fit with electric steering, no?

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I know when I just did my oil change, there was very very little room between the bottom of the oil filter and the steering rack..it was a pretty tight fit just to get the old one off..
 

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They went to the smaller filter in 2013 because of the electronic power steering leaving less room.

I am sure cost was a factor too like Hemi395 mentioned. Anything to save a penny.

The larger filters do indeed fit but it is tight. I am currently running the Fram Ultra XG2 (for 2012) on my 2017.
 
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As said the bigger ones from the early 4th gen still fit the newer 4th gen, but not aware of anybody trying them on the 5th yet. My oil life indicator has never been lower than 50% so I don't worry about it. I buy wix xp by the dozen for the 3 hemis I change the oil on.
 

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I run the larger RP filter with a filter Mag , going to filter the oil the best I can.
It's tight but very doable.

The filter magnet thing has been debunked.

The old 5.7’s you could run the 8 series filter, like what would come on basically any old Ford or old Mopar.
 

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I use an SRT filter on my 2019 Classic. Fit is tight, but I don't have the start up clatter with this filter and Redline 5w20 that I had with the factory filter and oil, which I changed at 2,000 miles. Here's the SRT vs. factory filter for comparison:

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Filter designs/media are better, engines are more efficient = less wear and media in the oil. Smaller filter doesn't mean too much when you can easily push 8+K on a decent brand stock size replacement filter. But if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy slapping a big filter on go ahead!
 

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The filter magnet thing has been debunked.

I sure hope you're not using Scotty Kilmer's video as your proof because that dude is a tool... I don't think it's been debunked as much as it's been deemed inconclusive.
 

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Maybe modern engines are built to better tolerances, have less blow by, fuel is cleaner, yada yada yada. Maybe we don't need bigger filters. Maybe the older ones were over engineered? Maybe I'm full of chit.......or maybe I'm not.
I agree. Not the full of chit part though. I started busting knuckles on infernal combustion engines right after the dinosaurs turned into go juice. Engines and petroleum products are so much better now. I think VWs didn't even have oil filters during the air cooled era.
Induction system are tight now. Very little dirt can get by the air filter. Oil is so much better. The march of technology. Now, 100,000 mile vehicles are thought to have most of their life ahead of them. A few decades ago, 100,000 miles would wear out two vehicles. With fuel injection, we don’t wash down our cylinder walls with raw gas at times and dilute the oil with gas.
100k on a set of plugs? Back in the days of leaded fuel and point ignition systems that would have been 10 tuneups.
The only drawback I feel is when I open the hood of my 2015 2500 6.4, take a peek, “nope I ain’t touching it”. Glad I haven’t had to in 70,000 miles so far.
 

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I sure hope you're not using Scotty Kilmer's video as your proof because that dude is a tool... I don't think it's been debunked as much as it's been deemed inconclusive.

I watched one of his videos on mods ad laughed hysterically

I’ve seen other videos and discussions on the matter that said it didn’t do anything.
 

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The filter magnet thing has been debunked.

The old 5.7’s you could run the 8 series filter, like what would come on basically any old Ford or old Mopar.


I post this not to "school anyone" but rather so you can see my thoughts on having the magnet.
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Exactly how does a bypass valve work?
www.bobistheoilguy.com
The oil enters the oil filter under pressure through the holes on the perimeter of the base plate.
The "dirty" oil then passes through the filter media where it is "cleaned". It then flows to the central tube and back into the engine through the usually threaded hollow center mounting stud.

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Oil Filter Flow Diagram
The only thing that holds the "spin-on" oil filter to the engine and keeps the oil from leaking is the base gasket (shown in above picture in red).

The Bypass Valve

Under ideal conditions, the bypass valve will never open. When it opens, the oil by passes the filter and goes on through to the motor, obviously unfiltered. It is a safety valve. However, in real operation, it opens often.

One example is when you start the motor when cold. The oil is thick and does not pass easily through the filtration medium, thus building up to a high pressure drop. So, the bypass valve opens to prevent oil-starvation of the motor. How long it stays open is dependent on how cold the oil is and how long it takes to get near operating temperature. When the pressure drop across the filtration medium drops below the bypass valve setting.

Another example can occur when the motor is fully warmed. At idle, the oil pressure is about 15 to 20 psi, and the pressure drop across the filter is about 1 or 2 psi. You take off towards the redline, and quickly build oil pressure. During that full-throttle acceleration the pressure drop across the filter will exceed the bypass setting, and send unfiltered oil to the motor, until the pressure across the filter has time to equalize. During a drag race, shifting through the gears, the bypass will open several times.

A third example, which you should never experience with frequent oil and filter changes, is when a filter becomes clogged. A spin-on filter can commonly hold 10 to 20 grams of trash before it becomes fully clogged. The bypass valve opening is the only way to keep the motor from becoming oil-starved if the filter becomes clogged.

According to Purolator, the Honda OEM filter bypass setting is 12 to 14 psi. WIX (NAPA Gold) builds their oil filters with a bypass setting of 8 to 11 psi, while AC Delco builds theirs to a setting of 11 to 17 psi. How much do these differences matter? I don't think anyone knows, even the engineers, and each has its own set of advantages and disadvantages.

If you do lots of racing, you're probably better off with a higher bypass setting.
If you do lots of *cold* starting, especially in the winter, or seldom change your filter, I think you're better off with a lower bypass setting. However, with few exceptions, bypass pressures for spin-on filters run in the 8 to 17 psi range, and any of them should work acceptably.

Here is a picture of the breakdown on some oil filters anatomy

oilfilterbreakdown.jpg

As you can see, some bypass valves are built directly in the middle of the filter while a few do not have one.

Here is a cutaway of Bosch's and how each component is located in a filter.
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1) Rubber seal

2) Steel baseplate

3) Anti-drainback valve

4) The bypass valve

5) Filter media

6) Filter can

Hopefully this gives you a better idea about filters and how they flow.
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My thinking is IF/when my bypass opens on my filter that any metal will be retained by the magnet and not flow back into the motor and lifters
I figure the large synthetic filter media in the filter will catch everything in normal operations of the filter
So debunked or not for why I bought it I feel like its good insurance or a safety catch.
I am doing what I can to help my motor not have a stuck lifter down the road and eat the cam.
 
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