What's with all of the hatred for these 2019 Ram's?

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DA Smith

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I absolutely hate mine with the exception of the headlights, the big rear console, and the rear reclining seats. I traded in a '16 1500 crew cab sport 5.7 hemi on a '14 2500 Mega Cab diesel. The diesel couldn't stay on the road for more than a day or 2 without something breaking. I complained to the dealer and begged for my truck back. After multiple attempts of fixing the issues. The dealer didn't want to lose a sale, of course, so they got me into a '19 1500 crew cab laramie 5.7 hemi (we can discuss why I rushed into the '19 another day). I would absolutely take my '16 back every single day, and twice on Tuesday.

Almost 11,000 miles on the '19 and I still feel the same way. Here is a few reasons I dislike it in comparison to the '10, '13, and '16 I've had. Most notably the '16.

-Anytime I open the tailgate, I have to slam it, otherwise I get a notification on the dash that it is open, even when it is not. When it thinks the tailgate is open, the rear cargo light is always on. Even sometimes slamming it doesn't work and it has to be slammed multiple times. Speaking of the tailgate, it is now a button to open, rather than a latch, which probably contributes to the "open tailgate" message.

-A "Laramie" doesn't have bed lights, but the '16 sport did?

-Cargo light won't work unless a door or the tailgate is opened? '16 button allowed it to work at all times.

-Loved the sunroof in my sport, this laramie doesn't have one. (not really a Ram issue, just personal choice)

-Absolutely hate the tow mirrors, the sport had automatic folding mirrors, this laramie doesn't.

-Automatic high-beams shut off for every single f**k**g road sign, or porch light in rural Nebraska with no cars for miles!

-The automatic wipers have a mind of their own, dust will make them go high speed.

-Its a pain in the a*s hooking my boat up because I can't leave the door open while hooking up to it or the park brake locks and won't let me move until the door is shut, truck placed in park, and then back into gear.

-4-8 mpg hauling my boat, FOUR!

-Passenger cannot plug their phone in without it going to "CarPlay," same with one of the two ports in the rear. I do like the CarPlay feature for GPS though, the navigation built-in sucks around here.

-I always left my iPod in my '16 and connected. It didn't matter how long the truck was off, when I turned it back on, the iPod continued right where it left off, in this '19 I have to unplug it, and plug it back in every start of the truck, and it restarts the shuffle.

-Already have a belt squeak sound coming from the engine compartment somewhere when pickup is in gear.

-Brakes are already squealing.

-Paint quality is JUNK! I have not taken this truck on a gravel road once, and it has more rock chips on the factory fender flares with factory tires than the '16 and '14 mega cab with off-road tires combined!

-I can't tell you how many times the front and rear parking sensors THINK they see something and the truck slams into park with the parking brake engaged, damn near giving me whiplash.

-The computer MPG is at least 1.5-3 MPG off of what I actually get. This truck has horrible gas mileage.

I'm sure there's more than this, and to some people these things may not be huge issues, but a lot of them are a big deal to me. The cheaper and better equipped sport was a much better pickup. We've reached the day where so many people buy these trucks for commuting, that they no longer make them for people who actually haul anything more than luggage. As soon as I don't have negative equity, or can find a good enough deal to make up for the negative equity, this thing is GONE!

Sounds to me like the truck is smarter than the driver and the tailgate issue is nothing more than an adjustment issue that should be fixed at the dealer at no cost to you. Sounds like you don't have the backup camera for making it simple to hook up any kind of trailer although I can't believe this since this is a Laramie. No one that knows how to pull trailers has to open his door to lean out and look back while backing up. The mirrors you complain about were ordered to operate manually because you can get power folding tow mirrors or power Sport mirrors as factory options. The fuel mileage you are crying about is probably due to your gearing. Old truck could have been a 323 gear and you may now have 392 gear also was other truck two wheel drive and new truck 4 x4? As for the bed lights they are an option and not standard equipment unless you are buying a Limited. I have owned many Ram trucks since 2009 including LHS, Laramie, Limited and now a 2019 Laramie Sport 4x4 off road loaded out with over 14-K miles on it now with no issues or dislikes of any kind. The the White tri-coat pearl paint is excellent and looks great. The new design is Very eye catching and I love the way the sport looks . Beat Ram I've owned to date.
 

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Sounds to me like the truck is smarter than the driver and the tailgate issue is nothing more than an adjustment issue that should be fixed at the dealer at no cost to you. Sounds like you don't have the backup camera for making it simple to hook up any kind of trailer although I can't believe this since this is a Laramie. No one that knows how to pull trailers has to open his door to lean out and look back while backing up. The mirrors you complain about were ordered to operate manually because you can get power folding tow mirrors or power Sport mirrors as factory options. The fuel mileage you are crying about is probably due to your gearing. Old truck could have been a 323 gear and you may now have 392 gear also was other truck two wheel drive and new truck 4 x4? As for the bed lights they are an option and not standard equipment unless you are buying a Limited. I have owned many Ram trucks since 2009 including LHS, Laramie, Limited and now a 2019 Laramie Sport 4x4 off road loaded out with over 14-K miles on it now with no issues or dislikes of any kind. The the White tri-coat pearl paint is excellent and looks great. The new design is Very eye catching and I love the way the sport looks . Beat Ram I've owned to date.



Sounds like you're just an ******* who likes to make assumptions. I do have a backup camera. I don't lean out of my truck to look back while backing up. Never have. I think after 15 years of pulling trailers, I have a slight idea of what I'm doing... I do however back up to my storage unit to get the boat out, get out of my truck, open the storage unit door, get back in my truck, back up 2 feet to hook the trailer up, get back out to hook it up, pull 20 feet forward, get back out and shut the storage unit door. Its much easier and quicker to leave the door open to back up those 2 feet. Same thing happens when I'm getting ready to put the boat in the water and have to move the pin to keep the surge brakes from locking up, sometimes I have to slightly move the truck to get the pin free. I've had a '10, '13, and '16 that I really enjoyed and didn't have any complaints with. This one, the list is never ending. Congrats on liking your truck. Good for you, I don't, at all. Sue me. They look good driving down the road, but aren't practical at all. Whats the point of high beams when they won't even stay on when you go past a road sign? Not crying at all, but when you buy a $50,000 truck, 3 years newer than your previous one, supposedly a higher end model, you'd expect it to have improvements. It has less options, and is more of a pain in the ass.
 

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That sucks your not happy with the truck

I think they won Motor Trend truck of the year ? I have a 2015 but my boss just bought a Blacked out 2019 and so far really likes it over his 2014

the Radio is over the top , but he drives a lot of highway males too

Hopefully you get it worked out soon

Good luck man
 

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Sounds like you're just an ******* who likes to make assumptions. I do have a backup camera. I don't lean out of my truck to look back while backing up. Never have. I think after 15 years of pulling trailers, I have a slight idea of what I'm doing... I do however back up to my storage unit to get the boat out, get out of my truck, open the storage unit door, get back in my truck, back up 2 feet to hook the trailer up, get back out to hook it up, pull 20 feet forward, get back out and shut the storage unit door. Its much easier and quicker to leave the door open to back up those 2 feet. Same thing happens when I'm getting ready to put the boat in the water and have to move the pin to keep the surge brakes from locking up, sometimes I have to slightly move the truck to get the pin free. I've had a '10, '13, and '16 that I really enjoyed and didn't have any complaints with. This one, the list is never ending. Congrats on liking your truck. Good for you, I don't, at all. Sue me. They look good driving down the road, but aren't practical at all. Whats the point of high beams when they won't even stay on when you go past a road sign? Not crying at all, but when you buy a $50,000 truck, 3 years newer than your previous one, supposedly a higher end model, you'd expect it to have improvements. It has less options, and is more of a pain in the ass.

I'm sure you know this but the reason for the new feature with the brake and no moving with the door open is to keep idiots from killing their self. This came into play after a number of numbheads exited their vehicle without putting it in park and some that fell out with the door open with the vehicle moving and were run over. The last big big deal was the movie star which I don't recall his name exited his Jeep Grand Cherokee to open a gate and said vehicle was not in park so the Jeep rammed into him pinning him between the gate and Jeep killing him. This brought much attention to the issue so the manufacturer is trying to idiot prof their vehicles which this new addition does help with that problem. In my opinion as long as there are numbheads operating vehicles there will be stupid accidents due to stupid people. You cannot idiot proff the world but they are trying to make it a little harder to kill yourself. By the way my Laramie Sport with the options was 66-K. And it's almost like getting in the cockpit of an aircraft, I don't just get in any longer and turn a key and mash the accelarator I now get in punch a start button and go through a check list before take off Lol.
 

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Whats the point of high beams when they won't even stay on when you go past a road sign?

I know your point is that they don't work well, but can you not shut off auto high beams on the 5th gens and just use them as normal? Honestly just would like to know for my next purchase, I prefer to just use them myself rather than the auto mode. The auto feature on my 17 doesn't work great, but the previous owner put a level kit on it and I think that effects it. Even so, it does a lot better than you're describing, something may be wrong with yours.
 

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As the buyer of a brandy new 2016 F150 that landed on a tow truck 3 times the first 13K miles, I can assure you...they do.

My Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins...Flawless.

That’s just conjecture though. I’m sure there’s lots of the exact same truck as your F150 that have been flawless.

Personally I’ve seen brand new Rams come off the delivery truck with issues, as well as many other brand new trucks with issues. Recently worked on a brand new 3500 with less than 30,000km that had a snapped turbo compressor shaft.

Those examples are just the exceptions though, not the rule.
 

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That’s just conjecture though. I’m sure there’s lots of the exact same truck as your F150 that have been flawless.

Those examples are just the exceptions though, not the rule.

All the above I quoted from you is absolutely true.

But allow me to add this: I am a risk analyst for an extended warranty company. I deal with laws of large numbers. Example: Not every male in the USA will die by age 78, but the vast majority of them will. Some die wayyy before that. Some die wayyy after that. But I can make the statement that most males won't live past the age of 78, and it' a true statement, based on millions of data entry points. It's undeniable. If it were not true, life insurance companies would be broke.

So, based on warranty repair costs on an annual basis (basically, annual repair costs), the F150 has the highest repair cost of any 1/2 ton truck. Chevy and GMC are right behind it. Because....they either cost more to repair, or they break down more often. I can separate that out also...but too much time to waste.

So, I'm not sure I can agree on your statement that none of the Big 3 makes a bad truck. That's really an opinion that can/can't be disputed by data, and even then, I'm not sure the answer would be conclusive.
 

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A ton of this stuff based on some factual info but mostly stereotypes. I have a 2017 Ram Big Horn Crew Cab 4x4 with Hemi and at 40K miles zero issues! Prior to this I had a 2001 Ram 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 with a cummins(miss that truck somtimes!) and other than maintenance and the rust we see here in MI that truck was going strong at 250K when I sold it. Enjoy your truck and don't let what other folks think rain on your parade. I work at GM but I drive a Ram!
 

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All the above I quoted from you is absolutely true.

But allow me to add this: I am a risk analyst for an extended warranty company. I deal with laws of large numbers. Example: Not every male in the USA will die by age 78, but the vast majority of them will. Some die wayyy before that. Some die wayyy after that. But I can make the statement that most males won't live past the age of 78, and it' a true statement, based on millions of data entry points. It's undeniable. If it were not true, life insurance companies would be broke.

So, based on warranty repair costs on an annual basis (basically, annual repair costs), the F150 has the highest repair cost of any 1/2 ton truck. Chevy and GMC are right behind it. Because....they either cost more to repair, or they break down more often. I can separate that out also...but too much time to waste.

So, I'm not sure I can agree on your statement that none of the Big 3 makes a bad truck. That's really an opinion that can/can't be disputed by data, and even then, I'm not sure the answer would be conclusive.

We can go pretty far down a rabbit hole debating it lol, but I would agree that it’s tricky to prove either way wether they’re good or bad. It can depend on who you ask and what they’re definition of a “bad” truck is.
 

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I go by the car complaints websites to get a good picture as to how problems are resolved or not by dealers and the manufacturer. In this area Ford and Ram both suck, as does Jeep.

Consumer Reports sends all of its subscribers a survey once a year and you input the cars and trucks you own, how many miles they were driven, and any repairs that needed to be made to any part of the vehicle (cooling system, electronics, air conditioning, body, drivetrain, engine, etc). The results provide very good information and a profile of what areas are going to be problem ones for owners of a particular model and model year.

I saw issues with the diesel engines used by Ford (verified by owners posts on website forums) and when Ford came out with a new diesel engine it greatly increased the reliability of the engines. GM has much the same history with its various Duramax diesel engines over the last 19 years.

All the problems mentioned in this particular thread make me wonder if I should wait for the 2021 Toyota Tundra trucks as the Tundra's have far better reliability and durability than trucks from Ford, Ram, and GM/Chevy. Spending over $50,000 on a 1/2 ton pickup is difficult enough to stomach without worries about ongoing problems with the truck as an owner.
 
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My bro in law has a 2017 Tundra ,not a bad truck .He's had issues also ,plus it rides like a freight train compared to my Ram.
 

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I don't about y'all but I get nothing but lip about my Ram 1500. Garbage trucks ,don't waste your money Fiat Chrysler is horrible etc...I don't get it. This is by far the best truck I've owned,not perfect but darn close.
whats to hate? The 2019 RAM has won truck of the year on so many forums. You must be talking to work buds who are just jealous and are driving crap fuurds and GMs. They are still decent trucks but RAM took the prize because its a better truck-and the new interior would rival that of a high end luxury car.. I want one but my 2012 Bighorn still drives like new and looks like new and we have become quite attached!!!
 

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We can go pretty far down a rabbit hole debating it lol, but I would agree that it’s tricky to prove either way wether they’re good or bad. It can depend on who you ask and what they’re definition of a “bad” truck is.
My definition of a "BAD" truck would be GM's 2014-2018 model Sierra and Silverado. A very large number of those truck had serious vibration issues that were mostly impossible to fix. Most of the problems I've seen with the RAM were fixable at least. When you have a problem that you have to just literally throw parts at (the proverbial throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks)to me that's even worse than the HEMI and its all too familiar cam and lifter problems. As far as I know most of the problems with the 5th gens are just growing pains and nothing more. I can tolerate slamming the tailgate a lot better than getting my teeth shaken out going down the freeway, not to make light of anybody's problems.
 

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My definition of a "BAD" truck would be GM's 2014-2018 model Sierra and Silverado. A very large number of those truck had serious vibration issues that were mostly impossible to fix. Most of the problems I've seen with the RAM were fixable at least. When you have a problem that you have to just literally throw parts at (the proverbial throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks)to me that's even worse than the HEMI and its all too familiar cam and lifter problems. As far as I know most of the problems with the 5th gens are just growing pains and nothing more. I can tolerate slamming the tailgate a lot better than getting my teeth shaken out going down the freeway, not to make light of anybody's problems.

I agree. I had a 2015 Silverado that had the vibration problem. I tried to fix it. But just wasn't going to happen, so I traded it in on my Ram, after having 4 Silverados.


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Hum hate. I’ve owned tundra, f250, f150, GMC Tahoe’s. Recently bought my first Ram1500. Only thing I hate is that I didn’t get a 2500 instead, although I don’t really need that much power or height I like how they look. Lol.

So I guess you can call me a hater, but I’ll say it’s been the best of the bunch so far, even with some quirks like uconnnect . They all have quirks..
 

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I got a 2019 tradesmen not alot of the frills and had 2 minor problems and got taken care of at dealership and just love to drive it. More toys more stuff to go wrong I say
 
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